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Lafreniere but neither team does this

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Team: 2023-24 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 9, 2023
Published: Aug. 9, 2023
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  1. Lafrenière, Alexis [RFA Rights]
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  1. Pinto, Shane [RFA Rights]
  2. 2024 1st round pick (DET)
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  1. Joseph, Mathieu
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (OTT)
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21$83,500,000$80,517,380$0$1,850,000$2,982,620
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$8,350,000$8,350,000
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UFA - 1
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LW
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UFA - 3
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UFA - 2
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Aug. 9, 2023 at 4:29 p.m.
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Drury takes that in a heartbeat and runs...
Aug. 9, 2023 at 4:37 p.m.
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Both the Rangers and the Sharks fleece you.
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Aug. 9, 2023 at 5:09 p.m.
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Pinto and Laf had roughly equal point production this year, so if anything it would be a one for one swap.
Aug. 9, 2023 at 6:34 p.m.
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Quoting: sens65
Pinto and Laf had roughly equal point production this year, so if anything it would be a one for one swap.


We have 3 centers we’re very good on trading for an year older with a lower ceiling. Laf still hasn’t had a top 6 season with pp mins, everything he has is EV.
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Aug. 9, 2023 at 6:37 p.m.
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Both the Rangers and the Sharks fleece you.


Sharks shouldn’t touch that trade, 3 mil each over the next 3 years for 3 goals from a forward a 2nd isn’t enough!
Aug. 9, 2023 at 6:38 p.m.
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We have 3 centers we’re very good on trading for an year older with a lower ceiling. Laf still hasn’t had a top 6 season with pp mins, everything he has is EV.


Yea sharks should just trade for lag instead! What is the ask???
Aug. 9, 2023 at 8:45 p.m.
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Sens wouldn't trade Pinto for DeBrincat or Chychrun (they would rather give up a 7th or 12 th OA pick in the end)... not sure they'd do it for Lafreniere but if they did, no way they'd add 75% of DeBrincat's return.

I would do it 1 for 1, I think Greig will be better than Pinto so a center line of Stutzle-Norris-Greig is Elite. I'm putting Lafreniere on Norris-Batherson LW, which would help him to gain offensive confidence

Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
Sharks shouldn’t touch that trade, 3 mil each over the next 3 years for 3 goals from a forward a 2nd isn’t enough!

Mathieu Joseph is better than you think though. Pretty good forechecker, good defensive forward and Elite PKer. He would have been underpaid in 2021-22 (if he had 2.95 AAV)

Joseph in 2021-22 : 36 pts pace (his 30 pts were at ES or on the PK)
Joseph in 2022-23 : 26 pts pace (15 of his 18 pts were at ES or on the PK)

He's a top skater too... A great defensive forward who gives you around 30 pts (per 82 games) at ES + PK has value. He just needs to bounce back a little and he's not overpaid at all anymore
Aug. 9, 2023 at 10:35 p.m.
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Sens wouldn't trade Pinto for DeBrincat or Chychrun (they would rather give up a 7th or 12 th OA pick in the end)... not sure they'd do it for Lafreniere but if they did, no way they'd add 75% of DeBrincat's return.

I would do it 1 for 1, I think Greig will be better than Pinto so a center line of Stutzle-Norris-Greig is Elite. I'm putting Lafreniere on Norris-Batherson LW, which would help him to gain offensive confidence


Mathieu Joseph is better than you think though. Pretty good forechecker, good defensive forward and Elite PKer. He would have been underpaid in 2021-22 (if he had 2.95 AAV)

Joseph in 2021-22 : 36 pts pace (his 30 pts were at ES or on the PK)
Joseph in 2022-23 : 26 pts pace (15 of his 18 pts were at ES or on the PK)

He's a top skater too... A great defensive forward who gives you around 30 pts (per 82 games) at ES + PK has value. He just needs to bounce back a little and he's not overpaid at all anymore


Awesome! Keep him. Sharks have a few of those guys and they don’t have a spot for him.
Aug. 10, 2023 at 12:48 a.m.
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
Yea sharks should just trade for lag instead! What is the ask???


We would need more instant impact opposed to prospects, idk if we'd be good trading partners.
Aug. 10, 2023 at 1:11 p.m.
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Quoting: Despise
We would need more instant impact opposed to prospects, idk if we'd be good trading partners.

Yea your probably right but maybe a Barabanov who can slide right in to your middle 6/ top 6 and Bordeleau who is very close to NHL ready who projects as a middle 6 C
Honestly that’s a lot to give up but I feel Laff has a 2nd gear that he might find playing top 6 min and PP time
Aug. 10, 2023 at 3:00 p.m.
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
Awesome! Keep him. Sharks have a few of those guys and they don’t have a spot for him.


I am not trying to convince you to take him, I am simply providing a scouting report based on facts because "3 mil each over the next 3 years for 3 goals" certainly doesn't paint a realistic picture of the player
 
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