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is this how ltir works

Created by: gavinray
Team: 2023-24 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 14, 2023
Published: Aug. 14, 2023
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Idk how ltir works but if this is how it works then this team is crazy stacked
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$2,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$1,000,000
1$3,500,000
Trades
ARI
  1. 2025 3rd round pick (OTT)
Buyouts
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DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,500,000$85,929,880$0$1,850,000-$2,429,880
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$8,205,714$8,205,714
LW
UFA - 5
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$8,350,000$8,350,000
C
UFA - 8
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 2
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$7,950,000$7,950,000
C
UFA - 7
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$4,975,000$4,975,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
C
RFA - 1
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 1
$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333
C, LW
RFA - 2
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$2,950,000$2,950,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$1,850,000$2M)
LD
UFA - 1
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$4,600,000$4,600,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
LD
UFA - 5
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$4,600,000$4,600,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 2
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD, LW
RFA - 1
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$805,000$805,000
RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 2
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$5,291,667$5,291,667
C, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$835,000$835,000
C, RW
RFA - 2

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Aug. 14, 2023 at 10:29 p.m.
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Timmy Superstar
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No you tripping
Aug. 14, 2023 at 10:35 p.m.
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Trade Zibanejad
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Do me a solid and send Vlad and Motter back down here at the trade deadline
Aug. 14, 2023 at 10:36 p.m.
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n.1 Topias Vilen fan
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No that isn't how it works lol

The way ACGM does it is just treats LTIR players as free
Aug. 14, 2023 at 10:46 p.m.
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Quoting: Coachchippy
Do me a solid and send Vlad and Motter back down here at the trade deadline


Lol no. You’ll be the ones selling 💀. Send us Kakko
Aug. 14, 2023 at 10:52 p.m.
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Edited Aug. 14, 2023 at 11:03 p.m.
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Lol no. You’ll be the ones selling 💀. Send us Kakko


You can have him. Can you take Panarin too?
Aug. 14, 2023 at 11:22 p.m.
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The way LTIR works is that in order to benefit, you need to be able to fit the players salary before they are on LTIR.

So, for example, let's say Joseph goes on LTIR, Sens would be allowed to exceed the cap by an amount up to his AAV (I say up to because there's a formula, it's not necessarily the full amount), but that cap also counts Joseph. You don't suddenly they 6M of cap space. You get up to an extra 3M, while still counting Joseph's.

If you're up against the cap, or over, and trade for an LTIR contract, you don't get to ignore their cap hit and then also get relief up to that amount, that would be double dipping. Carey Price would be worth more than when he was still playing.

It's basically a "Let's pretend this player and their cap hit doesn't exist" when counting against the cap.
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Aug. 15, 2023 at 5:23 p.m.
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Quoting: AnonymousSensFan
The way LTIR works is that in order to benefit, you need to be able to fit the players salary before they are on LTIR.

So, for example, let's say Joseph goes on LTIR, Sens would be allowed to exceed the cap by an amount up to his AAV (I say up to because there's a formula, it's not necessarily the full amount), but that cap also counts Joseph. You don't suddenly they 6M of cap space. You get up to an extra 3M, while still counting Joseph's.

If you're up against the cap, or over, and trade for an LTIR contract, you don't get to ignore their cap hit and then also get relief up to that amount, that would be double dipping. Carey Price would be worth more than when he was still playing.

It's basically a "Let's pretend this player and their cap hit doesn't exist" when counting against the cap.



Makes sense. Thank you!
Aug. 16, 2023 at 3:09 p.m.
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Let's say if the Sens had this cap... I'd rather have Greig on LW and Kastelic as the 4th line Center than sign Motte.

Otherwise that lineup looks great
 
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