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I think it's a massive L for the Leafs but curious as to what everyone elses thoughts are

https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/2685982
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2025
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$766,667$766,667
G
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Aug. 15, 2023 at 7:32 p.m.
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Time to delete TheScore

I love the apps interface but bro what are these articles
Aug. 15, 2023 at 7:33 p.m.
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Chytil, Kakko, AND Schneider? Lol no.
Aug. 15, 2023 at 7:34 p.m.
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Quoting: Ennis
Time to delete TheScore

I love the apps interface but bro what are these articles


One of the proposed trades I s**t you not was John Gibson for Elvis Merzlikins, Andrew Peeke and a top 10 protected 1st rounder
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Aug. 15, 2023 at 7:35 p.m.
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One of the proposed trades I s**t you not was John Gibson for Elvis Merzlikins, Andrew Peeke and a top 10 protected 1st rounder


They recently made an article of "can a team of connor's win the cup?" like how bored are you at the office man lmfao
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Aug. 15, 2023 at 7:36 p.m.
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And things like this are why you don't pay any attention to what theScore has to say.
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Aug. 15, 2023 at 7:37 p.m.
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U think that’s a “massive L for the Leafs” ???

Dude, if u think you’re getting better than that for Nylander,
then idk what to tell ya— other than “prepare for disappointment”

I’m not an NyR fan,
but u get a hell of a good young RD,
and 2 young forwards that look to be decent 2way guys who should score more in the Leafs system
And those 3 make the Leafs better defensively, which will help u guys in the playoffs when u can’t outscore teams 6-5 like in the regular season

As a Sabres fan,
i hope u guys don’t make a trade this good for you
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Aug. 15, 2023 at 7:38 p.m.
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Chytil, Kakko, AND Schneider? Lol no.


A third line forward, one of the biggest busts of the last decade, and a guy that has a shot to be a good #4 defenceman, maybe a #3… for a top playdriving forward + replacement players for the guys you’re losing?

You’re smoking rocks if you think New York doesn’t win this deal. Stop overrating your favourite teams players just cause they’re on your favourite team.
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Aug. 15, 2023 at 7:40 p.m.
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U think that’s a “massive L for the Leafs” ???

Dude, if u think you’re getting better than that for Nylander,
then idk what to tell ya— other than “prepare for disappointment”

I’m not an NyR fan,
but u get a hell of a good young RD,
and 2 young forwards that look to be decent 2way guys who should score more in the Leafs system
And those 3 make the Leafs better defensively, which will help u guys in the playoffs when u can’t outscore teams 6-5 like in the regular season

As a Sabres fan,
i hope u guys don’t make a trade this good for you


Massive is a bit of a stretch but I think they lose regardless. They’re giving up the best player in the deal along with a 20 goal scorer who only makes 2.1x3, a good young RHD and a depth guy who could be important for 2 nice assets, Kakko who is meh and a bad contract in goodrow. I think they lose the deal
Aug. 15, 2023 at 7:40 p.m.
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Quoting: TheresAlwaysNextYear
One of the proposed trades I s**t you not was John Gibson for Elvis Merzlikins, Andrew Peeke and a top 10 protected 1st rounder


Quoting: Ennis
They recently made an article of "can a team of connor's win the cup?" like how bored are you at the office man lmfao


Holy I don’t use the score I didn’t know it was that bad my brother that doesn’t really know much about hockey could make a better article then those
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Aug. 15, 2023 at 7:42 p.m.
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Holy I don’t use the score I didn’t know it was that bad my brother that doesn’t really know much about hockey could make a better article then those


I literally only use it to check scores and stats of games, i never read the articles. they suck
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Aug. 15, 2023 at 7:45 p.m.
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Quoting: TheresAlwaysNextYear
Massive is a bit of a stretch but I think they lose regardless. They’re giving up the best player in the deal along with a 20 goal scorer who only makes 2.1x3, a good young RHD and a depth guy who could be important for 2 nice assets, Kakko who is meh and a bad contract in goodrow. I think they lose the deal


I couldn’t disagree with you more
Guys like Kakko & Goodrow & Chytil are the kind of players who help u win IN THE PLAYOFFS- something the Leafs are obviously horrible at
Are these guys as talented as Nylander?
Of course not

But Kakko & Chytil’s offensive stats will jump on Toronto,
just like Jarnkrok’s did


AND u get Schneider??
He’s gonna be really good & can go right into your top4

And the Leafs give up nothing of value besides Nylander,
who they can’t win in the playoffs with


This deal is EXACTLY what the Leafs need to actually do some damage in the playoffs
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Aug. 15, 2023 at 7:54 p.m.
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I literally only use it to check scores and stats of games, i never read the articles. they suck


I can tell
Aug. 15, 2023 at 7:55 p.m.
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I couldn’t disagree with you more
Guys like Kakko & Goodrow & Chytil are the kind of players who help u win IN THE PLAYOFFS- something the Leafs are obviously horrible at
Are these guys as talented as Nylander?
Of course not

But Kakko & Chytil’s offensive stats will jump on Toronto,
just like Jarnkrok’s did


AND u get Schneider??
He’s gonna be really good & can go right into your top4

And the Leafs give up nothing of value besides Nylander,
who they can’t win in the playoffs with


This deal is EXACTLY what the Leafs need to actually do some damage in the playoffs


Nylander has arguably been the best of the core 4 in the playoffs, definitely in the panthers series. Trading him would be punishing the guy who deserves it least. Unless these new guys will make the other 3 perform better in the playoffs its pointless
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Aug. 15, 2023 at 7:59 p.m.
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I couldn’t disagree with you more
Guys like Kakko & Goodrow & Chytil are the kind of players who help u win IN THE PLAYOFFS


Kakko had 2pts in round one and Goodrow had 1. Chytil at least tried and had 4.

It's weird to talk about playoff success with the Rags when they got bounced in round one by a team of players who were seeing the playoffs for the first time.

Toronto literally went further than them.
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Aug. 15, 2023 at 8:05 p.m.
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Is The Score owned by the Rangers?
Aug. 15, 2023 at 8:24 p.m.
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My fellow leaf fans never stop embarrassing themselves that's a absolutely stellar trade for both teams but certainly for the Leafs also.
Aug. 15, 2023 at 8:38 p.m.
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I actually like this a lot
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Aug. 15, 2023 at 8:44 p.m.
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I actually like this a lot


Quoting: EveryoneOffended2
I actually like this a lot


Anyone have the link on this article??
Aug. 15, 2023 at 8:47 p.m.
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Anyone have the link on this article??


https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/2685982
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Aug. 15, 2023 at 8:48 p.m.
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I just saw an article there that said Tavares slipped and hurt his knee so he is on permanent LTIR ! April Fools!
Aug. 15, 2023 at 8:59 p.m.
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Quoting: TheresAlwaysNextYear
https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/2685982


Thanks
Aug. 15, 2023 at 9:19 p.m.
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I just realized this is all nonsense no way nyr is letting go kakko chytil Schneider and laffeniere since they wouldn't be able to sign him which I forgot about him so for any trade these players can't get moved...if you do Liljegren for Schneider it would still make it dicey for nyr to sign laffeniere lol.
Aug. 15, 2023 at 9:27 p.m.
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Quoting: TheresAlwaysNextYear
Nylander has arguably been the best of the core 4 in the playoffs, definitely in the panthers series. Trading him would be punishing the guy who deserves it least. Unless these new guys will make the other 3 perform better in the playoffs its pointless


Isn’t it a foregone conclusion at this point that u guys won’t be re-signing Nylander anyways?

And yeah, if being on the Leafs can up Jarnkrok’s numbers, think what it can do for guys with more talent?!
And Chytl & especially Kakko clearly have more talent

Also, you’re just flat out wrong about Nylander producing more in the playoffs
Matthews, Marner & Nylander have all played in 50 playoff games for the Leafs
Marner 47pts
Matthews 44pts
Nylander 40pts

I get that u like Nylander, but your opinion on him seems a bit skewed


Idk what kind of return u think is good for him,
but this one will help u guys win
Aug. 15, 2023 at 9:35 p.m.
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These Nylander to NYR rumors and trades need to stop. It's never gonna happen.
Aug. 15, 2023 at 9:54 p.m.
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Isn’t it a foregone conclusion at this point that u guys won’t be re-signing Nylander anyways?

And yeah, if being on the Leafs can up Jarnkrok’s numbers, think what it can do for guys with more talent?!
And Chytl & especially Kakko clearly have more talent

Also, you’re just flat out wrong about Nylander producing more in the playoffs
Matthews, Marner & Nylander have all played in 50 playoff games for the Leafs
Marner 47pts
Matthews 44pts
Nylander 40pts

I get that u like Nylander, but your opinion on him seems a bit skewed


Idk what kind of return u think is good for him,
but this one will help u guys win


I'm talking more recent history here, over the last 3 playoffs he's objectively been the best of the core 4. As for him leaving it's not necessarily a forgone conclusion but even if it is, the Leafs are in win now mode, you keep him and go for it. If they were rebuilding yeah trade him but they're not which is what really forms my opinion about this trade. I don't think trading a 40 goal guy at a really good cap hit and other decent assets for depth helps them win regardless of what the value is
 
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