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(CAR / CGY) - Kanzig for Lack, Murphy

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Jun 29, 2017 at 8:26
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A trade between Carolina Hurricanes and Calgary Flames has been confirmed.
Trade Details
Calgary Flames Acquire:
Calgary Flames
Eddie Läck ($1,375,000 retained - 50%)
2019 7th round pick (CAR - #214 - Dustin Wolf)
Carolina Hurricanes Acquire:
Carolina Hurricanes
2019 6th round pick (CGY - #181 - Kevin Wall)
Jun 29, 2017 at 8:32
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It's been one hell of an offseason for Treliving, hasn't it?
Jun 29, 2017 at 8:33
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I think Calgary wins this, they get a former 12th overall right shot D-man along with Lack for what a backup goalie would cost... Since Carolina is retaining 50% of salary its a fair rate for a backup goalie given the market that is there etc. Maybe Lack will get his groove back or give them some insurance in case of injury or whatever else. Carolina might be high on Kanzig who has pretty good size if nothing else. Unless I'm missing something this seems pretty good for the Flames without giving up much to obtain smile.
Jun 29, 2017 at 8:46
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Calgary is going to be good next year.
Jun 29, 2017 at 8:48
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Quoting: DarylthePony
Calgary is going to be good next year.


Calgary has the forward and defensive core to win it all. The rest is up to Mike Smith.
Jun 29, 2017 at 8:53
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Quoting: DarylthePony
Calgary is going to be good next year.


Calgary has the forward and defensive core to win it all. The rest is up to Mike Smith.


Exactly.
Jun 29, 2017 at 8:53
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Quoting: Snobalt
Quoting: DarylthePony
Calgary is going to be good next year.


Calgary has the forward and defensive core to win it all. The rest is up to Mike Smith.

This is why Calgary shoulda made a strong bid for MAF....with him in net, they're core (Fleury, Giordano, Brodie, Hamilton, Hamonic, Monahan, Gaudreau, Backlund, Tkachuk) is enviable. Only thing they lack IMO is an elite right handed shot RW
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Jun 29, 2017 at 8:59
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Quoting: DavidBooth7
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Calgary has the forward and defensive core to win it all. The rest is up to Mike Smith.

This is why Calgary shoulda made a strong bid for MAF....with him in net, they're core (Fleury, Giordano, Brodie, Hamilton, Hamonic, Monahan, Gaudreau, Backlund, Tkachuk) is enviable. Only thing they lack IMO is an elite right handed shot RW


Yea, I think Smith can play a solid season (915 save percentage), but playoffs? Smith is good, but he's not elite, he's not a franchise goalie at his age.
Jun 29, 2017 at 9:00
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Quoting: DavidBooth7
Quoting: Snobalt


Calgary has the forward and defensive core to win it all. The rest is up to Mike Smith.

This is why Calgary shoulda made a strong bid for MAF....with him in net, they're core (Fleury, Giordano, Brodie, Hamilton, Hamonic, Monahan, Gaudreau, Backlund, Tkachuk) is enviable. Only thing they lack IMO is an elite right handed shot RW


For sure, the only reason Calgary has been dragged down the past few years is a Lack of good goaltending.
Jun 29, 2017 at 9:09
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Quoting: TheGiftedYoungRider
Quoting: DavidBooth7

This is why Calgary shoulda made a strong bid for MAF....with him in net, they're core (Fleury, Giordano, Brodie, Hamilton, Hamonic, Monahan, Gaudreau, Backlund, Tkachuk) is enviable. Only thing they lack IMO is an elite right handed shot RW


For sure, the only reason Calgary has been dragged down the past few years is a Lack of good goaltending.
Nice pun.

That being said, BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Jun 29, 2017 at 9:13
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Quoting: TheGiftedYoungRider


For sure, the only reason Calgary has been dragged down the past few years is a Lack of good goaltending.


Why......... their must be a "bad pun" infraction out there are something. laugh
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Jun 29, 2017 at 9:22
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Quoting: TheGiftedYoungRider
Quoting: DavidBooth7

This is why Calgary shoulda made a strong bid for MAF....with him in net, they're core (Fleury, Giordano, Brodie, Hamilton, Hamonic, Monahan, Gaudreau, Backlund, Tkachuk) is enviable. Only thing they lack IMO is an elite right handed shot RW


For sure, the only reason Calgary has been dragged down the past few years is a Lack of good goaltending.

If only their goalies had more Quick reflexes laugh
Jun 29, 2017 at 9:38
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Quoting: DavidBooth7

If only their goalies had more Quick reflexes laugh


They just always seem to Lehtonen to often.
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Jun 29, 2017 at 9:49
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Quoting: DavidBooth7

If only their goalies had more Quick reflexes laugh


They just always seem to Lehtonen to often.

I know right? I'm not sure why they don't play like they're supposed to. Maybe they don't take care of their Budaj's? Even so, they still carry insane Price tags these days
Jun 29, 2017 at 11:44
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Looks like it wont be Miller time for the Flames smile. Somebody must have had a bad connection, I said get me Mike Vernon not Mike Smith smile.
Jun 30, 2017 at 12:36
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Why did they give up on Murphy?
Jun 30, 2017 at 4:40
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Quoting: rangersandislesfan
Why did they give up on Murphy?


Might be to absorb the cap hit, or to chase something they see in free agency.

This screws up my Cam Ward dreams for Pittsburgh.
Jun 30, 2017 at 7:51
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Quoting: DavidBooth7
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They just always seem to Lehtonen to often.

I know right? I'm not sure why they don't play like they're supposed to. Maybe they don't take care of their Budaj's? Even so, they still carry insane Price tags these days


Ha, while were making fun of names, am I the only one that thinks Abdelkader sounds like some heavy duty power tool?
Jun 30, 2017 at 9:26
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Why did they give up on Murphy?


Might be to absorb the cap hit, or to chase something they see in free agency.

This screws up my Cam Ward dreams for Pittsburgh.


My friend seemed to indicate it was a cost savings move. They also had a logjam at RHD (Faulk --> Slavin --> TVR --> Murphy) and felt like they could get Lack off the cap for cheap.

That being said, I still can't figure out a reason why they would care about salary. They were still below the cap floor and have to spend about six million to get there. So maybe they go after Draisatl (9.8-11mil?), Johansen (8-9mil?), or someone else (Thornton/Marleau/Duchene?).

On the other side, Calgary picks up a depth RHD who can probably fill out their third pair more nicely than Bartowski. Obviously they don't think either Kylington or Andersson is ready yet.
Jun 30, 2017 at 1:03
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trash for trash. Why is there so much talk of this. CGY is buying out Murphy anyway haha. They gave up a ECHL/AHL player and a 6th for a 7th and a backup goalie. Nothing special and I don't think there is a clear winner here.
Jun 30, 2017 at 1:18
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Quoting: rangersandislesfan
Why did they give up on Murphy?


I don't know guess they couldn't even get a 7th round pick for him... Seems odd since his contract/buyout wasn't really that much. If he had injury issues don't even know if would have counted or if buried him in the minors. Either way for a former 1st round pick he sure seemed to get soured on. They already have Carolina retaining salary so I guess its not really costing them since not paying full part of the Lack contract. Guess its Murphy's Law who did that Quest for Herb song smile.
Jul 1, 2017 at 3:32
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Doesn't seem to make sense to buy Murphy out after trading for him. He's a 24 yr old, a right handed defense-men, and he has some NHL time.

He's a good minor league player. I'd think it would be better to bring him up from the minors then sign a 27 UFA to do the same.
Jul 2, 2017 at 10:30
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Doesn't seem to make sense to buy Murphy out after trading for him. He's a 24 yr old, a right handed defense-men, and he has some NHL time.

He's a good minor league player. I'd think it would be better to bring him up from the minors then sign a 27 UFA to do the same.


Yeah I found it really odd myself, think he has injury concussion issues so they probably didn't want to bother with him. Once they got STone guess they felt he wasn't needed... Just surprised they couldn't even flip him for a 7th rounder or future considerations nothing. Guy was like a 1st round pick if remember, a few of these buyouts seemed trivial from teams. Devils on one site barely have any forwards showing on their depth chart its pretty funny... Guess they learned to build a team from McPhee like Vegas overloaded with Defense smile.
 
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