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Wake up and smell the Rosen

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Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 20, 2023
Published: Aug. 20, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,250,000
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STL
  1. Lafferty, Sam
  2. 2024 6th round pick (TOR)
2.
TOR
  1. 2024 4th round pick (COL)
3.
TOR
  1. 2024 3rd round pick (CGY)
  2. 2025 7th round pick (CGY)
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2024
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2025
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2026
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22$83,500,000$83,197,283$0$0$302,717
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
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UFA - 1
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$2,400,000$2,400,000
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$762,500$762,500
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UFA - 1
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UFA - 2
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$4,150,000$4,150,000
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UFA - 1
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$766,667$766,667
G
RFA - 2
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$762,500$762,500
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UFA - 1
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
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$800,000$800,000
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UFA - 1
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
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$800,000$800,000
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$4,687,500$4,687,500
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Aug. 20, 2023 at 6:58 p.m.
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All of this looks doable to me. I think St. Louis fans will want more for Rosen, they seem pretty high on him. Fourth for Timmins is very fine by me.
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Aug. 20, 2023 at 7:01 p.m.
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Quoting: Avsfantrumpetman
All of this looks doable to me. I think St. Louis fans will want more for Rosen, they seem pretty high on him. Fourth for Timmins is very fine by me.


I’d like to get more for Timmins but realistically with the cap situation Leafs are in I’d take a 4th over nothing. I like Rosen and I wanted him to stay with the Leafs, not sure what the blues’ needs are but I gave a bit more than I expected he’s worth due to the cap hit and value
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Aug. 20, 2023 at 7:11 p.m.
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Quoting: CameronSquires
I’d like to get more for Timmins but realistically with the cap situation Leafs are in I’d take a 4th over nothing. I like Rosen and I wanted him to stay with the Leafs, not sure what the blues’ needs are but I gave a bit more than I expected he’s worth due to the cap hit and value


I think you offered fair value for him. But they are so disgruntled with a lot of their D-corps that Rosen is close to untouchable for them.

Yeah, if y'all weren't so pressed for cap space I think you could get a 3rd for Timmins. But yeah.....here we are.
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Aug. 20, 2023 at 7:19 p.m.
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You guys... the reason the Blues obviously pass is they are not taking back Lafferty. Rosen is certainly not untouchable and nobody thinks he is, but this offer puts the Blues over the cap and gives them nothing they need. If you want Rosen, you could certainly get him, but not for dump junk you want to get rid of that they cannot afford. One look at their team page would have told you all that.
Aug. 20, 2023 at 7:24 p.m.
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Quoting: mokumboi
You guys... the reason the Blues obviously pass is they are not taking back Lafferty. Rosen is certainly not untouchable and nobody thinks he is, but this offer puts the Blues over the cap and gives them nothing they need. If you want Rosen, you could certainly get him, but not for dump junk you want to get rid of that they cannot afford. One look at their team page would have told you all that.


Fair enough, I had just seen a few blues fans on another post talking about how they really didn't want to lose Rosen.
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Aug. 20, 2023 at 7:27 p.m.
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Quoting: Avsfantrumpetman
Fair enough, I had just seen a few blues fans on another post talking about how they really didn't want to lose Rosen.


That may be so, but he's certainly not untouchable. He's just great depth, and Blues fans are used to having great depth. But the guy's a 29 yo UFA who is worth more to keep than he would be in a trade. The Blues would likely only trade Rosen if they suddenly needed a small amount of cap and then they would probably only trade him for a pick/minor prospect.
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Aug. 20, 2023 at 7:30 p.m.
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Quoting: mokumboi
That may be so, but he's certainly not untouchable. He's just great depth, and Blues fans are used to having great depth. But the guy's a 29 yo UFA who is worth more to keep than he would be in a trade. The Blues would likely only trade Rosen if they suddenly needed a small amount of cap and then they would probably only trade him for a pick/minor prospect.


That makes way more sense. I kept thinking "How did Calle Rosen get SO much better after his time in Colorado?". But yeah, that's what he was for us as well.
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Aug. 20, 2023 at 7:39 p.m.
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The Flames don't have the cap space to take Jarnkrok
Aug. 20, 2023 at 7:58 p.m.
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Trading Jarnkrok and Lafferty leaves just Marner and Kampf as forwards from last seasons PK. So who out of this group can play the PK. Matthews, Tavares, Domi, Bertuzzi and Reaves won't be on the PK. The leafs would have Nylander, Knies, McMann, Comtois and Gambrell left for the 2nd and 3rd forward group on the PK. That could be a real issue so I don't see the leafs moving these guys.
Aug. 20, 2023 at 8:08 p.m.
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Quoting: Avsfantrumpetman
That makes way more sense. I kept thinking "How did Calle Rosen get SO much better after his time in Colorado?". But yeah, that's what he was for us as well.



To be fair, Rosen just had an outstanding season, which is not something one can say for many Blues players. He's a very nice player on the 3rd pairing, maybe the 2nd in a pinch, but he's not really someone who you can count on in the top four and the Blues need to put a typical Blues Dman presence back in the LD stable. The only one who's hard to play against is Tucker, and he's just another 6th-7th guy (at least for the time being).
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