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Team: 2024-25 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 23, 2023
Published: Aug. 23, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
*Considering he's not negotiating right now, this is based on the premise that Pettersson ultimately does NOT want to sign in Vancouver*. I think Montreal should be all in on it if it so happens.
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$950,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$2,000,000
2$1,850,000
8$10,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$3,450,000
Trades
MTL
  1. Pettersson, Elias [RFA Rights]
Additional Details:
2024 1st should be around 5th overall.
Vancouver gets a top-5 pick, a future no.2 defenseman in Guhle, and a middle-6 winger in Anderson. I don't know if that would be enough but I think this is definitely an offer that can be entertained at the very least, IF PETTERSSON WANTS OUT***
VAN
  1. Anderson, Josh
  2. Guhle, Kaiden
  3. 2024 1st round pick (MTL)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$87,500,000$75,600,417$1,022,500$4,500,000$11,899,583
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$7,850,000$7,850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 7
$10,500,000$10,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 8
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$7,875,000$7,875,000
C
UFA - 6
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$2,900,000$2,900,000
C, LW
RFA - 3
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$3,362,500$3,362,500
C, RW
RFA - 2
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$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
RW, LW
RFA - 1
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$897,500$897,500
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$4,450,000$4,450,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$835,000$835,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
C
UFA - 1
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
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$812,500$812,500
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,875,000$4,875,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$918,333$918,333 (Performance Bonus$1,000,000$1M)
RD
RFA - 3
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$3,450,000$3,450,000
G
UFA - 3
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$950,000$950,000
LD
RFA - 2
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$1,925,000$1,925,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$1,850,000$1,850,000
LD/RD
RFA
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
RFA
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
LD/RD
RFA - 1
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$766,667$766,667
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 2

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Aug. 23, 2023 at 10:33 a.m.
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Leafs going to Leafs
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Andersen's a cap dump without max retention so you'd have to add that and another good prospect
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Aug. 23, 2023 at 10:34 a.m.
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This oughta be fun
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Aug. 23, 2023 at 10:35 a.m.
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oh boy...
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Aug. 23, 2023 at 10:47 a.m.
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Any Pettersson trade from MTL starts with one of Caufield, Suzuki, or Reinbacher. Canucks won't just trade one of the best two-way players and their franchise player for a first (that I doubt would be top 5 again, especially if the habs have Petey), a decent prospect and a cap dump
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Aug. 23, 2023 at 10:52 a.m.
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STOP the Canucks are NOT repeat NOT TRADING PETTERSSON.
Do you Seriously think they will trade him to Montteal for Scraps . Come on wake up.YOUR DREAMING.IMHO.
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Aug. 23, 2023 at 11:00 a.m.
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This doesn't even come close to getting Pettersson. You'd need at least double this
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Aug. 23, 2023 at 12:07 p.m.
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Quoting: remowilliams
STOP the Canucks are NOT repeat NOT TRADING PETTERSSON.
Do you Seriously think they will trade him to Montteal for Scraps . Come on wake up.YOUR DREAMING.IMHO.


A likely top-5 pick and Guhle is scraps? Wtf are you smoking son
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Aug. 23, 2023 at 12:10 p.m.
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AN "ORIGINAL SIX"
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BOOST is often slang for THEFT.
Aug. 23, 2023 at 12:32 p.m.
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I am constantly amazed at how much Habs fans seem to devalue Pettersson on here or seem to value their own assets too highly in their Pettersson proposals. As a Canucks fan, I'm not surprised that the ACGM vultures are circling; I am worried that Pettersson is going to pull a Tkachuk, after all, why wouldn't he? Vancouver has been a trash fire in terms of organizational competency and on ice product for a decade. But to think that you're going to get one of the elite players in the NHL who probably comps similar to someone like Pavel Datsyuk (an elite 1C who gets Selke consideration) for a cap dump, top-four defensemen and a lottery ticket is wild.

If a Canucks fan offered Garland (who I consider better value than Anderson), D Elias Pettersson (probably won't be at Guhle's level, but has a shot at top 4 given his progression this year), and a 1st (a lottery ticket...) for someone like Suzuki or Caufield (neither of whom are in Pettersson's tier at this point, I would argue), they would get ripped apart...
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Aug. 23, 2023 at 12:41 p.m.
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Quoting: dfawcett
I am constantly amazed at how much Habs fans seem to devalue Pettersson on here or seem to value their own assets too highly in their Pettersson proposals. As a Canucks fan, I'm not surprised that the ACGM vultures are circling; I am worried that Pettersson is going to pull a Tkachuk, after all, why wouldn't he? Vancouver has been a trash fire in terms of organizational competency and on ice product for a decade. But to think that you're going to get one of the elite players in the NHL who probably comps similar to someone like Pavel Datsyuk (an elite 1C who gets Selke consideration) for a cap dump, top-four defensemen and a lottery ticket is wild.

If a Canucks fan offered Garland (who I consider better value than Anderson), D Elias Pettersson (probably won't be at Guhle's level, but has a shot at top 4 given his progression this year), and a 1st (a lottery ticket...) for someone like Suzuki or Caufield (neither of whom are in Pettersson's tier at this point, I would argue), they would get ripped apart...


Finely worded comment except the bias is still evident (yes we all have a bias). Plenty of VAN fans overvalue their assets and feel MTL assets are worthless. But this goes for all fan bases. Case and point, Garland has absolutely no value to me and I’d much rather have Anderson.

EP is elite, I’m not arguing that. The price is high, and this offer doesn’t get him. But to devalue the pieces offered because you highly value what you have isn’t a nonbias either.

VAN should expect a high return, no doubt. MTL shouldn’t be considering a move of this magnitude for another season anyway so not really sure why there are so many on here honestly. We won’t be willing to move some of the specific pieces that should be requested and y’all won’t accept the alterations we would want to make do to the quality/quantity debate. No we wouldn’t be able to send 50 2nds to equate the proper value but we wouldn’t be very wise to give up the talented young core we have either.

Short story long this is all a moot point because neither team would likely be comfortable making a deal involving EP due to the magnitude and the price tag.
Aug. 23, 2023 at 12:48 p.m.
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drop the first and add savard and ghallager and price and the cap retention on petry adn van accepts
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Aug. 23, 2023 at 12:49 p.m.
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Quoting: Just_A_Guess
Finely worded comment except the bias is still evident (yes we all have a bias). Plenty of VAN fans overvalue their assets and feel MTL assets are worthless. But this goes for all fan bases. Case and point, Garland has absolutely no value to me and I’d much rather have Anderson.

EP is elite, I’m not arguing that. The price is high, and this offer doesn’t get him. But to devalue the pieces offered because you highly value what you have isn’t a nonbias either.

VAN should expect a high return, no doubt. MTL shouldn’t be considering a move of this magnitude for another season anyway so not really sure why there are so many on here honestly. We won’t be willing to move some of the specific pieces that should be requested and y’all won’t accept the alterations we would want to make do to the quality/quantity debate. No we wouldn’t be able to send 50 2nds to equate the proper value but we wouldn’t be very wise to give up the talented young core we have either.

Short story long this is all a moot point because neither team would likely be comfortable making a deal involving EP due to the magnitude and the price tag.


I appreciate this! Thanks for a great response.

I am fully aware of my bias, but that is also kind of my point. As a Canucks fan, I see a lot of these and they are often kind of insulting as someone who watches the wizardry of Pettersson on a consistent basis.

And I agree with you: I don't know if trading for Petey, given the acquisition and cap cost, would make sense for MTL at this stage. Trading a high value, young asset like Caufield, Suzuki, Slaf, Reinbacher likely isn't 'the move' right now. Maybe in a 18-24 months after they've built up a greater saturation of talent, and then can make the move as more of a 'finishing piece' in building a contender. Otherwise you may end up in the mushy middle with some good young players, but not a lot coming up behind them...hmmm, sounds familiar...
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Aug. 23, 2023 at 1:01 p.m.
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A likely top-5 pick and Guhle is scraps? Wtf are you smoking son


The 1st cancels out taking on Anderson’s awful contract, which leaves it as Guhle for Pettersson. Guhle is a good piece, but not even close to being worth Pettersson. It would take something like Dach + one of Caufield/Reinbacher/Slaf + 2024 unprotected 1st minimum for the Canucks to even consider
Aug. 23, 2023 at 1:03 p.m.
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A likely top-5 pick and Guhle is scraps? Wtf are you smoking son


For Elias Pettersson? That's scraps. This package gets you Cole Caufield or Nick Suzuki, it doesn't get you Pettersson
Aug. 23, 2023 at 1:04 p.m.
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Quoting: dfawcett
I appreciate this! Thanks for a great response.

I am fully aware of my bias, but that is also kind of my point. As a Canucks fan, I see a lot of these and they are often kind of insulting as someone who watches the wizardry of Pettersson on a consistent basis.

And I agree with you: I don't know if trading for Petey, given the acquisition and cap cost, would make sense for MTL at this stage. Trading a high value, young asset like Caufield, Suzuki, Slaf, Reinbacher likely isn't 'the move' right now. Maybe in a 18-24 months after they've built up a greater saturation of talent, and then can make the move as more of a 'finishing piece' in building a contender. Otherwise you may end up in the mushy middle with some good young players, but not a lot coming up behind them...hmmm, sounds familiar...


100%, we’ve been this long building a very deep prospect pool of talent and we haven’t fully established who’s taking exactly what position to really determine who is available for trade outside of the most obvious candidates. Nobody wants the mushy middle so I’ll leave that to another team… MTL isn’t in a rush but some of the fans are very impatient unfortunately.

Hoping this chaos ends soon, it’s giving PLD PTSD vibes.
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Aug. 23, 2023 at 1:11 p.m.
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A likely top-5 pick and Guhle is scraps? Wtf are you smoking son


When comes to Peety yes.Im tired of the B.S. Peety trades.He is not going any where.If he did ever leave he would go to a contender so........IMHO.
Aug. 23, 2023 at 4:59 p.m.
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Bro can y’all f****ng stop with those trades
 
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