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Standings Prediction

Created by: mv21227
Team: 2023-24 Custom Team
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 27, 2023
Published: Aug. 27, 2023
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Playoffs:
Round 1:
Carolina > Ottawa
New Jersey > NY Rangers
Buffalo > Toronto
Tampa Bay > Boston

Dallas > Vancouver
Colorado > Minnesota
Vegas > Seattle
LA > Edmonton

Round 2:
Carolina > New Jersey
Tampa Bay > Buffalo

Dallas > Colorado
LA > Vegas

Round 3:
Carolina > Tampa Bay
Dallas > LA

Finals:
Carolina > Dallas
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Aug. 27, 2023 at 8:32 p.m.
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This is the kiss of death isn't it... looking at your pre-season cup winner...
Aug. 27, 2023 at 8:33 p.m.
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Arizona over nashville is wild!!! They should be competing for the last wildcard with Winnipeg and Calgary
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Aug. 27, 2023 at 8:51 p.m.
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Vancouver won't come close to the playoffs

If Buffalo beats Toronto blow it up
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Aug. 27, 2023 at 9:04 p.m.
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Arizona over nashville is wild!!! They should be competing for the last wildcard with Winnipeg and Calgary


I think Arizona is a surprise team this season. Nashville could maybe be ahead of them but I don’t think it’s a guarantee
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Aug. 27, 2023 at 9:05 p.m.
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Vancouver won't come close to the playoffs

If Buffalo beats Toronto blow it up


In the West they definitely have a good chance assuming Demko/Hughes/Pettersson/Miller don’t miss significant time. They have great forward depth, a much improved defense, and a great starting goalie
Aug. 27, 2023 at 9:17 p.m.
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NJ/NYR could be a coin flip depending on if NJ upgrades at goalie
Aug. 27, 2023 at 9:27 p.m.
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In the West they definitely have a good chance assuming Demko/Hughes/Pettersson/Miller don’t miss significant time. They have great forward depth, a much improved defense, and a great starting goalie


If by depth you mean they have 10 3rd liners then yes.

Demko has played more than 35 games only once in his career. I also think he's great but he's only had two seasons above league average. Not really dependable.
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Aug. 27, 2023 at 9:30 p.m.
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This looks about right for the Avs.
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Aug. 27, 2023 at 10:01 p.m.
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That RD1 is a troll to Leafs fans
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Aug. 27, 2023 at 10:08 p.m.
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If by depth you mean they have 10 3rd liners then yes.

Demko has played more than 35 games only once in his career. I also think he's great but he's only had two seasons above league average. Not really dependable.


Pettersson: Elite 1C
Miller: PPG 2C
Kuzmenko: Great top 6 winger
Boeser and Garland: Good 2nd line wingers
Mikheyev and Beauvillier: Good middle 6 wingers that played well in top line roles last season
Podkolzin and Hoglander: young and have shown promise and have middle/top 6 upside
Suter: solid 3C
Joshua and Blueger: solid 4th liners

Forward depth is a strength for the Canucks, especially compared to teams they’ll be competing for a wildcard spot with
Aug. 27, 2023 at 10:10 p.m.
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This looks about right for the Avs.


I do think they’ll have a solid chance to finish ahead of Dallas and beat them in round 2 as well, they’re really close imo. Slight edge to Dallas for now though
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Aug. 27, 2023 at 10:18 p.m.
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I do think they’ll have a solid chance to finish ahead of Dallas and beat them in round 2 as well, they’re really close imo. Slight edge to Dallas for now though


Nah, we're gambling on a lot of pieces and frankly another year without our captain I'd be happy with a 2nd round exit.
Aug. 27, 2023 at 10:22 p.m.
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As a BUF, I like this thread.

BUF will surprise a lot of people this year, especially TOR fans.

VAN is also a sister team to BUF, so I would like to see them back in the playoffs.

However, VAN is bringing back almost the same team/core and they have missed the playoffs 3 years running. It all depends on if Demko can be healthy.

BUF is in a similar spot, G is a ?, and we have missed the playoffs for way too long for most people to consider us a relevant team.

I'd love to see BUF scorch TO (again) and a BUF vs. VAN SC.

Let's see what happens....
Aug. 27, 2023 at 10:59 p.m.
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Arizona over nashville is wild!!! They should be competing for the last wildcard with Winnipeg and Calgary


They should be competing for Eiserman/Celebrini (ok maybe not that but they will suck)
Aug. 27, 2023 at 11:07 p.m.
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Pettersson: Elite 1C
Miller: PPG 2C
Kuzmenko: Great top 6 winger
Boeser and Garland: Good 2nd line wingers
Mikheyev and Beauvillier: Good middle 6 wingers that played well in top line roles last season
Podkolzin and Hoglander: young and have shown promise and have middle/top 6 upside
Suter: solid 3C
Joshua and Blueger: solid 4th liners

Forward depth is a strength for the Canucks, especially compared to teams they’ll be competing for a wildcard spot with


I strongly disagree with this. I'd say:

Pettersson: Top 5C in the league (easily a top 3 two way C in the league with Matthews/Crosby)
Miller: 1st line C (Assuming we define this at top 32, he should easily be there, top 10 in points over the last 5 years, good defence, hasn't shown signs of dropping off)
Kuzmenko: 1st line winger (Massively underrated IMO)
Boeser: He can't do anything but shoot, his impact are worse than replacement level, he essentially should be a 4th liner who just plays on the PP in a perfect world, obviously we know that never happens so I'd say if this was a cup contending team you'd have him likely on the 3rd line
Mikheyev: High end 3rd liner who can't stay healthy, never played more than 54 games in a season, despite his skill at his salary and with his injury history he's essentially a cap dump, I don't think anyone who trade for him, not saying he doesn't have top 6 potential but we've been saying that since he was in his second season with the leafs. Now, he'll be 29 when the season starts, its time to get realistic about what he is)
Garland: Above average third liner, he's crossed 50 points once in his career, struggle to say he belongs in the top 6 especially on a team going somewhere.
Beauvillier: Wildcard, would want him slotted on the 3rd line
Podkolzin and Hoglander: Both have been bad in the NHL, hence why they keep getting sent down, I know without waiver you need to put them in or trade them but they are 3rd/4th liners.
Suter: solid 3C
Joshua and Blueger: solid 4th liners

So you have 3 1st liners, 7 3rd liners and 2 4th liners.

I don't see any depth there.

If Miller/Petty don't score 100 points the team goes nowhere, thats the truth. And the problem is when you split Petty/Miller both are playing at a disadvantage against a team like Edmonton with (McDavid/Hyman on the first line and Dri/Nuge on the second) or Toronto (Matthews/Marner and Nylander/Tavares) or essentially every other playoff team with at least 4 solid top 6 guys spread accross the top 2 lines.

So you'll struggle to win the 1st and 2nd line matchups, then you use your "high end" third liners in the top 6 and your 3rd line is actually just lower end 3rd liners and you lose that too.

It's not a deep team.
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Aug. 28, 2023 at 2:11 a.m.
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I strongly disagree with this. I'd say:

Pettersson: Top 5C in the league (easily a top 3 two way C in the league with Matthews/Crosby)
Miller: 1st line C (Assuming we define this at top 32, he should easily be there, top 10 in points over the last 5 years, good defence, hasn't shown signs of dropping off)
Kuzmenko: 1st line winger (Massively underrated IMO)
Boeser: He can't do anything but shoot, his impact are worse than replacement level, he essentially should be a 4th liner who just plays on the PP in a perfect world, obviously we know that never happens so I'd say if this was a cup contending team you'd have him likely on the 3rd line
Mikheyev: High end 3rd liner who can't stay healthy, never played more than 54 games in a season, despite his skill at his salary and with his injury history he's essentially a cap dump, I don't think anyone who trade for him, not saying he doesn't have top 6 potential but we've been saying that since he was in his second season with the leafs. Now, he'll be 29 when the season starts, its time to get realistic about what he is)
Garland: Above average third liner, he's crossed 50 points once in his career, struggle to say he belongs in the top 6 especially on a team going somewhere.
Beauvillier: Wildcard, would want him slotted on the 3rd line
Podkolzin and Hoglander: Both have been bad in the NHL, hence why they keep getting sent down, I know without waiver you need to put them in or trade them but they are 3rd/4th liners.
Suter: solid 3C
Joshua and Blueger: solid 4th liners

So you have 3 1st liners, 7 3rd liners and 2 4th liners.

I don't see any depth there.

If Miller/Petty don't score 100 points the team goes nowhere, thats the truth. And the problem is when you split Petty/Miller both are playing at a disadvantage against a team like Edmonton with (McDavid/Hyman on the first line and Dri/Nuge on the second) or Toronto (Matthews/Marner and Nylander/Tavares) or essentially every other playoff team with at least 4 solid top 6 guys spread accross the top 2 lines.

So you'll struggle to win the 1st and 2nd line matchups, then you use your "high end" third liners in the top 6 and your 3rd line is actually just lower end 3rd liners and you lose that too.

It's not a deep team.


As a Leafs fan would you say Bertuzzi is not a 2nd line winger, but rather an above average 3rd liner because he’s only put up 50+ points once? If that’s your logic with Garland (who’s much better defensively than Bertuzzi), then it must be with Bertuzzi as well

Mikheyev played at a 23 goal, 50 point pace while on a torn ACL this past season. Yes his injury history is concerning, but he helped make the line of Kuzmenko-Pettersson-Mikheyev one of the best 5v5 lines in the league last season. You’re right that he’s ideally a 3rd liner, but he can definitely fill in a top 6 role nicely when healthy

Podkolzin played well as a rookie but had a sophomore slump. I think he can still be a good middle 6 player

Hoglander played really well his rookie year but has regressed, this may be a make or break season for him, but he is very skilled

Also with your point on Miller, he’s not very good defensively, but does put up points to help offset that. He’s a low 1C/high end 2C imo
Aug. 28, 2023 at 11:35 a.m.
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As a Leafs fan would you say Bertuzzi is not a 2nd line winger, but rather an above average 3rd liner because he’s only put up 50+ points once? If that’s your logic with Garland (who’s much better defensively than Bertuzzi), then it must be with Bertuzzi as well


I don't really care about the other things... But Bert's unique in the sense of his playoffs/Grit, Garland has 2 points in 8 games, Bert had 10 points in 7 and does things that are meant to piss you off (like just taking someone's stick)... To add, Bert's scored 30 before... Garland has not despite playing way more games than Bert.

While I do acknowledge that being healthy is an important factor... There was a large part of the past 4 seasons where Bert was out bc he didn't take the vax. Bert also is that player that won't ever quit no matter the situation... I remember that there was one game where the Leafs blew a 7-2 lead (shocker) and ended up winging 10-7... Despite it being with 30 seconds remaining... Bert was still trying to block shots to prevent the Leafs from making it an 11-7 game despite the Leafs running away with the game...

However, I view Garland as a Kerfoot, for right and for wrong bc of their play styles and point totals being very similar with their defensive analytics being at least respectable... So then the question really becomes; Is Kerfoot a 2nd line winger? In the right situation, Yes... Otherwise, he's better for the 3rd line which is why AZ signed him to his deal
Aug. 28, 2023 at 12:30 p.m.
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I don't really care about the other things... But Bert's unique in the sense of his playoffs/Grit, Garland has 2 points in 8 games, Bert had 10 points in 7 and does things that are meant to piss you off (like just taking someone's stick)... To add, Bert's scored 30 before... Garland has not despite playing way more games than Bert.

While I do acknowledge that being healthy is an important factor... There was a large part of the past 4 seasons where Bert was out bc he didn't take the vax. Bert also is that player that won't ever quit no matter the situation... I remember that there was one game where the Leafs blew a 7-2 lead (shocker) and ended up winging 10-7... Despite it being with 30 seconds remaining... Bert was still trying to block shots to prevent the Leafs from making it an 11-7 game despite the Leafs running away with the game...

However, I view Garland as a Kerfoot, for right and for wrong bc of their play styles and point totals being very similar with their defensive analytics being at least respectable... So then the question really becomes; Is Kerfoot a 2nd line winger? In the right situation, Yes... Otherwise, he's better for the 3rd line which is why AZ signed him to his deal


I really like Bertuzzi. I think he’s a great 2nd line winger, and I’d say he’s a bit better than Garland. But Garland is still a good 2nd line winger. Better than Kerfoot, who’s a solid 3rd liner

Bertuzzi 82 game pace
22/23: 13G, 49P (2.18 P/60, 1.74 5v5 P/60)
21/22: 36G, 75P (2.75 P/60, 2.18 5v5 P/60)
20/21: only played 5 games so not really fair
19/20: 24G, 55P (2.1 P/60, 1.8 5v5 P/60)
18/19: 24G, 53P (2.34 P/60, 2.14 5v5 P/60)

Garland 82 game pace
22/23: 17G, 47P (2.25 P/60, 1.78 5v5 P/60)
21/22: 20G, 55P (2.47 P/60, 2.62 5v5 P/60)
20/21: 20G, 65P (2.66 P/60, 2.37 5v5 P/60)
19/20: 27G, 47P (2.43 P/60, 2.03 5v5 P/60)

Kerfoot 82 game pace
22/23: 10G, 32P (1.6 P/60, 1.48 5v5 P/60)
21/22: 13G, 51P (2.45 P/60, 2.44 5v5 P/60)
20/21: 12G, 34P (1.71 P/60, 1.63 5v5 P/60)
19/20: 11G, 35P (1.75 P/60, 1.8 5v5 P/60)
18/19: 16G, 44P (2.17 P/60, 1.38 5v5 P/60)
Aug. 28, 2023 at 1:02 p.m.
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I really like Bertuzzi. I think he’s a great 2nd line winger, and I’d say he’s a bit better than Garland. But Garland is still a good 2nd line winger. Better than Kerfoot, who’s a solid 3rd liner

Bertuzzi 82 game pace
22/23: 13G, 49P (2.18 P/60, 1.74 5v5 P/60)
21/22: 36G, 75P (2.75 P/60, 2.18 5v5 P/60)
20/21: only played 5 games so not really fair
19/20: 24G, 55P (2.1 P/60, 1.8 5v5 P/60)
18/19: 24G, 53P (2.34 P/60, 2.14 5v5 P/60)

Garland 82 game pace
22/23: 17G, 47P (2.25 P/60, 1.78 5v5 P/60)
21/22: 20G, 55P (2.47 P/60, 2.62 5v5 P/60)
20/21: 20G, 65P (2.66 P/60, 2.37 5v5 P/60)
19/20: 27G, 47P (2.43 P/60, 2.03 5v5 P/60)

Kerfoot 82 game pace
22/23: 10G, 32P (1.6 P/60, 1.48 5v5 P/60)
21/22: 13G, 51P (2.45 P/60, 2.44 5v5 P/60)
20/21: 12G, 34P (1.71 P/60, 1.63 5v5 P/60)
19/20: 11G, 35P (1.75 P/60, 1.8 5v5 P/60)
18/19: 16G, 44P (2.17 P/60, 1.38 5v5 P/60)


But then adjust it for Kerf bc he did play on the 3rd line while Garland typically plays with Miller or Petey and it's a lot closer
Aug. 28, 2023 at 1:05 p.m.
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But then adjust it for Kerf bc he did play on the 3rd line while Garland typically plays with Miller or Petey and it's a lot closer


Garland for the majority of last season was playing with bottom 6 players/AHL callups. He’s barely played with Pettersson since coming to Vancouver
Aug. 28, 2023 at 1:08 p.m.
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Garland for the majority of last season was playing with bottom 6 players/AHL callups. He’s barely played with Pettersson since coming to Vancouver


https://frozenpool.dobbersports.com/players/conor-garland... Garland played exclusively with Miller for 3/4 of the years and then played with Beaullivier a lot and played half the season with Horvat+Miller... IDK about you, but those 3 aren't "Bottom 6 players and AHL callups"
Aug. 28, 2023 at 1:18 p.m.
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https://frozenpool.dobbersports.com/players/conor-garland... Garland played exclusively with Miller for 3/4 of the years and then played with Beaullivier a lot and played half the season with Horvat+Miller... IDK about you, but those 3 aren't "Bottom 6 players and AHL callups"


From the games I watched I typically remembered Garland mostly playing with the likes of Dries, Aman, Joshua. Looking at it he spent the most time on a line with Miller/Horvat, followed by Joshua/Aman and Dries/Boeser so I was a little bit off

But Kerfoot played his second, third, and fourth most minutes last season on lines with Tavares/Nylander, Matthews/Marner, and Tavares/Marner
Aug. 28, 2023 at 1:25 p.m.
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From the games I watched I typically remembered Garland mostly playing with the likes of Dries, Aman, Joshua. Looking at it he spent the most time on a line with Miller/Horvat, followed by Joshua/Aman and Dries/Boeser so I was a little bit off

But Kerfoot played his second, third, and fourth most minutes last season on lines with Tavares/Nylander, Matthews/Marner, and Tavares/Marner


For half the season, yes... But it The other half was David Kampf, Bobby McMann and Pierre Engval: https://frozenpool.dobbersports.com/players/Alex-Kerfoot
Aug. 28, 2023 at 1:30 p.m.
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For half the season, yes... But it The other half was David Kampf, Bobby McMann and Pierre Engval: https://frozenpool.dobbersports.com/players/Alex-Kerfoot


His most common was with Engvall/Kampf (148.8 minutes) but his next 3 highest were Tavares/Nylander (81.4 minutes) Matthews/Marner (76.7 minutes) and Tavares/Marner (67.3 minutes)

https://moneypuck.com/lines.htm
Aug. 28, 2023 at 1:36 p.m.
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His most common was with Engvall/Kampf (148.8 minutes) but his next 3 highest were Tavares/Nylander (81.4 minutes) Matthews/Marner (76.7 minutes) and Tavares/Marner (67.3 minutes)

https://moneypuck.com/lines.htm


Followed by Acciari-ZAR (47.5), Engvall/Jarnkrok (36.9), Nylander/Jarnkrok (36.3) and Kampf/ZAR (29)
 
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