Please no

What are we winning? a 9th place finish? The 16th overall pick?

I don't even know what to make of this. The only coherent thing I can say is that Logan O'Connor should never play center. Ever

Ottawa probably accepts

Buffalo accepts

Weird that this is my comment on this thread, but I have long thought (going back to his college days) that LOC could handle that role, lol.

Do you realize how bad this is though?

I mean it would cost the same price as what we paid already to paid Zaitsev, and MORE than we paid to dump Murray who were both closer to full cap dumps.

Joseph is overpaid by 1 M$ AT MOST and only based on last season. If he simply rebounds to 2021-22 form, he's easily worth his cap hit and even has trade value.

This is like my 5th reason as to why it makes MUCH more sense to trade Kubalik rather than Joseph

We've argued over Joseph vs Kubalik before, no need to do so again. I honestly don't care about either player enough to rehash that. Personally, Brannstrom is first on MY list to be moved.

You know what would be really bad, though? Not signing Pinto.

If they need to move Joseph, Kubalik, Brannstrom, or all 3, to make the cap room, then so be it. As long as any decent prospects or first rounders are involved (from the Sens), then I'm ok with it.

I personally think the Sens would prefer to move Joseph or Brannstrom, but that's just a hunch based on comments they've made in the past. But who knows with Dorion. Doubt he cares what you, I or the rest of the people on ACGM think it's the best move. He'll do what he thinks is best for this team to reach the playoffs, cause his job likely depends on it.

Maybe that's his niche and he just hasn't found it yet? LOL!

That's a no for the Avs. Girard is worth a 1st and 2nd, and would be moved for futures most likely and cap space, not to take on Backlund and Zadorov, and that's before adding in LOC and the picks.

Of course what we think has no effect on what Dorion does but I have correctly predicting what the problems were the last 3 offseasons (1st : lack of quality veterans, 2nd : lack of depth, 3rd : awful bottom-6 and that Gustavsson for Talbot we were going to regret, etc)

I know you don't want to go over the same Kubalik vs Joseph argument but don't know if you saw this before (developed the arguments) so I am going to copy/paste for you :

- Kubalik is UFA after the season. Sens won't have the cap space to re-sign him as they really need to focus on signing a better forward than him or even Tarasenko. He would walk for nothing while we could get an asset for him NOW. Joseph will COST an asset to move now and will most likely restore positive value this season and particularly with the cap going up next season

- Kubalik scored 17 of his 45 pts on the PP last season. There's TEN (10) other guys who require and need PP time before him, and that's not even counting Greig and Brannstrom.

- Over the last 2 seasons, Total Points per 60 minutes at 5v5, Joseph 1.46 and Kubalik 1.37

- Joseph is our best PK forward (history of posting Elite K metrics). He's also one of our fastest skaters and one of our best forwards defensively at ES. Kubalik wouldn't come close to any of that.

Still haven't found any counter arguments

Keep Joseph, he will bounce back and show how useful he is defensively. And he could even put some decent offensive numbers. He just burnt a 3v3 league that had a lot of NHL players (Suzuki, Letang, Perron, Drouin, Comtois, etc)

Clearing Kubalik AAV would be more than enough to make the cap work. Sens currently have $895,953 of cap space with 11 forwards, 7 D-men and 2 goalies. They only have Pinto to sign

Pinto on a 1 year bridge deal should cost no more than 1.5 AAV. Of course, he'd want a 2 years bridge with higher AAV but considering the situation, he'll have to cave in for 1 year. It would be in his interest too as he could cash in into a bigger contract as soon as next season.

So enough for having Pinto and 2 forwards among : Kelly, Sokolov, Crookshank, Smejkal, etc