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Team: 2023-24 Boston Bruins
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 11, 2023
Published: Sep. 11, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$2,000,000
Trades
BOS
  1. Pinto, Shane [RFA Rights]
OTT
  1. Lysell, Fabian
  2. Steen, Oskar
  3. 2026 2nd round pick (BOS)
Buyouts
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$83,500,000$83,145,834$4,500,000$500,000$354,166
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$6,125,000$6,125,000
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$2,000,000$2,000,000
C
RFA - 1
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
C, RW
RFA - 2
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$11,250,000$11,250,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 8
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
C, RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
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$2,300,000$2,300,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 1
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$800,000$800,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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$762,500$762,500
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$3,687,500$3,687,500
LD
UFA - 1
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$9,500,000$9,500,000
RD
UFA - 7
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
LD
NTC, NMC
UFA - 7
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$4,100,000$4,100,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$3,475,000$3,475,000
G
RFA - 1
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$1,137,500$1,137,500
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$1,050,000$1,050,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$775,000$775,000
C, LW
RFA - 1

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Sep. 11, 2023 at 8:09 p.m.
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That pick is too far away for Ottawa to consider that trade.
Sep. 11, 2023 at 8:42 p.m.
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Lysell, Beecher, 2025 1st Unprotected for Ottawa to even consider.
Sep. 11, 2023 at 8:52 p.m.
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So here's the thing:
1- GMPD needs to start the season strong and make the playoffs, or he might be fired
2- Greig has only played 20 games in the NHL. He was sent back down to the AHL after his first few games because they thought his progress stalled. He also plays a physical game as a smallish forward, meaning he will be injury prone until he packs on muscle.
3- Pinto was a reliable forward, played all 82 games, and scored 20g. The coach and GM have done nothing but praise him and his play.
4- there are players on the roster the GM and Coach value a lot less than Pinto.
5- Norris is coming back from shoulder surgery.
6- Ottawa and Boston are in the same division, fighting for the same playoff spots.

So, with those notes in mind, you can see why this deal does nothing for the Sens.

- Lysell is still a prospect. He has 0 NHL games, and his AHL stats aren't exactly screaming that he'll be a Calder candidate.
- Steen isn't a prospect anymore. He's just a player that can't stick in the NHL. No need to waste a contract slot
- A second for 3 drafts from now does nothing
- Sens are removing an important depth player, who played 2C for them for half of last year, and trading him to a rival in dire need of centers. They don't get anything back that makes them better than they were with Pinto. Without Pinto, the center depth is terrible.
- If Pinto signs for only 2M, Ottawa EASILY can fit him in

If Boston gets Pinto, it's because they dramatically overpaid, and this trade ain't that
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Sep. 11, 2023 at 9:08 p.m.
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Lysell looked good and then ran out of gas because he basically didn’t take the summer off with the late juniors. If it were based on talent alone, Boston doesn’t even consider trading Lysell.

I’m sure there were discussions with Lysell/Beecher, but I can’t see Ottawa trading Pinto nor do I see Boston paying the price to get Pinto.
Sep. 12, 2023 at 11:06 a.m.
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Lysell, Beecher, 2025 1st Unprotected for Ottawa to even consider.


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Sep. 12, 2023 at 11:40 a.m.
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Takes an overpay to get a young C out of a division rival, Ottawa wouldn’t want to make the trade either, not that I think they will anyway
Sep. 12, 2023 at 11:52 a.m.
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Ottawa hangs up on this one. Lysell is the most valuable player in this deal and I'd rather keep the 23 year old C who's already had a 20-goal season in the NHL over the 19 year old winger who only scored 37 points in 54 AHL games last season. Steen is nothing more than a warm body and the pick being several years away mutes the value of it.

Ottawa is capped out and clearly in "going for it" mode right now - they're not going to give up a proven 2/3C for a bag of magic beans, especially to a division rival.
Sep. 12, 2023 at 1:07 p.m.
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Of course, not how the Sens want to trade Pinto, well if they had any interest in trading him to begin with
 
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