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Team: 2023-24 Colorado Avalanche
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 13, 2023
Published: Sep. 13, 2023
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Edited to add Bear instead of Murray
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2024
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Sep. 13, 2023 at 12:23 p.m.
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Not sure they'd go back to guys they had at one time but maybe. Brassard would be okay but Murray was always hurt and not really all that effective plus Bednar didn't really like him so probably not an upgrade over JJ.
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Sep. 13, 2023 at 12:34 p.m.
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They likely ride with what they have now and keep an eye on the waivers. Still thinking the 3rd pair rotates Dermy/JJ/Hunt. Even if they add at D I just don't see it being Murray.
Sep. 13, 2023 at 1:11 p.m.
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Quoting: M96N29
They likely ride with what they have now and keep an eye on the waivers. Still thinking the 3rd pair rotates Dermy/JJ/Hunt. Even if they add at D I just don't see it being Murray.


I'd like to see Malinski in that mix as well but we'll see
Sep. 13, 2023 at 1:13 p.m.
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I'd like to see Malinski in that mix as well but we'll see


Agree.
Sep. 13, 2023 at 1:14 p.m.
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Quoting: NMAvsFan
Not sure they'd go back to guys they had at one time but maybe. Brassard would be okay but Murray was always hurt and not really all that effective plus Bednar didn't really like him so probably not an upgrade over JJ.


Quoting: M96N29
They likely ride with what they have now and keep an eye on the waivers. Still thinking the 3rd pair rotates Dermy/JJ/Hunt. Even if they add at D I just don't see it being Murray.


Ethan Bear? Another guy I had in mind.

Brassard is one of the few decent, cheap ufas left. The dude had a great season last year and the year before for who he us now. I've been seeing a lot of people say the Avs need better center depth and I think he would be just fine there. I'd also like to explore the idea of Jonathan Toews if he ever comes back
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Sep. 13, 2023 at 1:23 p.m.
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Ethan Bear? Another guy I had in mind.

Brassard is one of the few decent, cheap ufas left. The dude had a great season last year and the year before for who he us now. I've been seeing a lot of people say the Avs need better center depth and I think he would be just fine there. I'd also like to explore the idea of Jonathan Toews if he ever comes back


Bear would be a good option - I like the thought of having another RHD and his underlying stats are actually pretty good; not a big body but also not small. More C depth would be good - I don't trust Meyers to be an effective 4C. Brassard would be decent. Toews would be interesting but I'm not sure he would accept a 4C role or even fit that role; when there are injuries in the top 9, though, he could be plug-and-play almost anywhere but that still leaves Meyers as 4C.
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Sep. 13, 2023 at 1:29 p.m.
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Bear would be a good option - I like the thought of having another RHD and his underlying stats are actually pretty good; not a big body but also not small. More C depth would be good - I don't trust Meyers to be an effective 4C. Brassard would be decent. Toews would be interesting but I'm not sure he would accept a 4C role or even fit that role; when there are injuries in the top 9, though, he could be plug-and-play almost anywhere but that still leaves Meyers as 4C.


Yeah at this point you're not asking Myers to be effective. Your asking him to prove he can be effective. Thats why the Avs gave him a 1 year league min deal. He doesn't need to be effective all the time, he just needs to show he can. If he can do that with a little consistency, then you start to have the conversation of him actually being your 4C. Right now, you're trying to develop that effective consistency in him. If that doesn't work out, we could have a problem on our hands. If it does, he is your 4C and he signs a 2x$1M deal next year. At this point, I am a big fan of Brassard
Sep. 13, 2023 at 1:33 p.m.
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So I edited it to have Bear instead, understanding he won't be healthy right away
Sep. 13, 2023 at 3:48 p.m.
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Ethan Bear? Another guy I had in mind.

Brassard is one of the few decent, cheap ufas left. The dude had a great season last year and the year before for who he us now. I've been seeing a lot of people say the Avs need better center depth and I think he would be just fine there. I'd also like to explore the idea of Jonathan Toews if he ever comes back


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Bear would be a good option - I like the thought of having another RHD and his underlying stats are actually pretty good; not a big body but also not small. More C depth would be good - I don't trust Meyers to be an effective 4C. Brassard would be decent. Toews would be interesting but I'm not sure he would accept a 4C role or even fit that role; when there are injuries in the top 9, though, he could be plug-and-play almost anywhere but that still leaves Meyers as 4C.


I should probably give Meyers a shot, but for some reason I have no confidence in him. TBH, it's some of the other AHLers that I wish would get a real look. Brassard would be fine. Plus, I'm not super confident in Cogs' ability to go a whole season with the way he plays, his age, and some significant injuries. We're a bit thin at LW, so Brassard could be some insurance there, too, if Meyers looks ok. Maybe that's the plan for Kiviranta though
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Sep. 13, 2023 at 4:28 p.m.
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Bear maybe as a gamble. Murray and Brassard.....nope!
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Sep. 13, 2023 at 5:09 p.m.
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Bear maybe as a gamble. Murray and Brassard.....nope!


Murray I can understand, but why not Brassard?
Sep. 13, 2023 at 6:03 p.m.
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Yeah at this point you're not asking Myers to be effective. Your asking him to prove he can be effective. Thats why the Avs gave him a 1 year league min deal. He doesn't need to be effective all the time, he just needs to show he can. If he can do that with a little consistency, then you start to have the conversation of him actually being your 4C. Right now, you're trying to develop that effective consistency in him. If that doesn't work out, we could have a problem on our hands. If it does, he is your 4C and he signs a 2x$1M deal next year. At this point, I am a big fan of Brassard


Personally, I'd rather they just find someone they know can be consistent at 4C now rather than waiting to see if Meyers can find his game in that role. I'm not sure he has the hockey sense or puck skill for that role and I don't want to see them have to spend assets to find a replacement; just sign Brassard now and call it good. Send Meyers to Loveland to keep working and await a call up.
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Sep. 13, 2023 at 7:11 p.m.
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Murray I can understand, but why not Brassard?


He wasn’t any good in his short TDL stint with the Avs and he doesn’t kill penalties and he is nothing special in the face off circle, that’s not a combination COL needs at 4C.
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He wasn’t any good in his short TDL stint with the Avs and he doesn’t kill penalties and he is nothing special in the face off circle, that’s not a combination COL needs at 4C.


And Myers/Foudy/Pavel will do that stuff better?
Sep. 13, 2023 at 8:10 p.m.
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Personally, I'd rather they just find someone they know can be consistent at 4C now rather than waiting to see if Meyers can find his game in that role. I'm not sure he has the hockey sense or puck skill for that role and I don't want to see them have to spend assets to find a replacement; just sign Brassard now and call it good. Send Meyers to Loveland to keep working and await a call up.


I agree and honestly feel the same way, but we're going to have to let these prospects develop at some point sometime. I think we should give Myers at least 6 games, still sign Brassard in the meantime, and if Myers doesn't work out, u got ur answer. Then you send him back to Loveland
Sep. 13, 2023 at 8:24 p.m.
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I agree and honestly feel the same way, but we're going to have to let these prospects develop at some point sometime. I think we should give Myers at least 6 games, still sign Brassard in the meantime, and if Myers doesn't work out, u got ur answer. Then you send him back to Loveland


I mean honestly at this point Myers needs to show it in camp and during the pre-season. If he doesn't, I don't think we need to give him all that much patience. He's already had the better part of a season to get used to the game. All that to say, I do hope we get one more center on a PTO to put the pressure there.
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Sep. 13, 2023 at 8:39 p.m.
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And Myers/Foudy/Pavel will do that stuff better?


I know Brassard can’t do it, so I would rather give Foudy and Meyers a shot. Pavel is a straight AHL player imo until he proves otherwise.
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I mean honestly at this point Myers needs to show it in camp and during the pre-season. If he doesn't, I don't think we need to give him all that much patience. He's already had the better part of a season to get used to the game. All that to say, I do hope we get one more center on a PTO to put the pressure there.


Fair enough. We'll see what they do. I know it's a very long shot, but Peter Holland lol.
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Fair enough. We'll see what they do. I know it's a very long shot, but Peter Holland lol.


If that happens I expect at MINIMUM a 30 for 30 and hopefully a B-level movie lol.
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I know Brassard can’t do it, so I would rather give Foudy and Meyers a shot. Pavel is a straight AHL player imo until he proves otherwise.


OK but here's what we do know about him: he's been producing well the last couple of years, is a proven depth center, and will be a cheap, veteran 4C to get that you don't have to spend capital on. It's unfair to rate him on his performance with us for just 20 games back in 2019 when the team was much different. He isn't great at pk so you just don't use him in that role if you don't want to. You have plenty of other guys to do pk. And you're not asking him to be anything special in faceoffs, you just need some who can dig in and win a couple times or at least hold the other center a bit to let the wingers join the fight, and Brassard will do that just fine. We've already seen a little bit of Myers and he is not any of these things. You might be able to make a case for Foudy but even so wouldn't you want a little insurance that will actually increase your center depth?
Sep. 13, 2023 at 9:56 p.m.
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OK but here's what we do know about him: he's been producing well the last couple of years, is a proven depth center, and will be a cheap, veteran 4C to get that you don't have to spend capital on. It's unfair to rate him on his performance with us for just 20 games back in 2019 when the team was much different. He isn't great at pk so you just don't use him in that role if you don't want to. You have plenty of other guys to do pk. And you're not asking him to be anything special in faceoffs, you just need some who can dig in and win a couple times or at least hold the other center a bit to let the wingers join the fight, and Brassard will do that just fine. We've already seen a little bit of Myers and he is not any of these things. You might be able to make a case for Foudy but even so wouldn't you want a little insurance that will actually increase your center depth?


Remember, y'all: When we last rode the Brassard-Express, we wanted him to be a 3rd line dude. He VASTLY underperformed in that role, but was having a bad year to begin with. At 4C, I'll take anyone who doesn't turn the puck over, knows how to forecheck, and skates. I honestly don't care who that is at this point. But they need to fill those requirements.
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Sep. 14, 2023 at 1:11 p.m.
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OK but here's what we do know about him: he's been producing well the last couple of years, is a proven depth center, and will be a cheap, veteran 4C to get that you don't have to spend capital on. It's unfair to rate him on his performance with us for just 20 games back in 2019 when the team was much different. He isn't great at pk so you just don't use him in that role if you don't want to. You have plenty of other guys to do pk. And you're not asking him to be anything special in faceoffs, you just need some who can dig in and win a couple times or at least hold the other center a bit to let the wingers join the fight, and Brassard will do that just fine. We've already seen a little bit of Myers and he is not any of these things. You might be able to make a case for Foudy but even so wouldn't you want a little insurance that will actually increase your center depth?


He 100% failed in the Avs system what makes you think an even older version all the sudden will, because he played better with other teams? That’s some flawed logic, it’s not like he was a 22yr old guy when he was here. Signing guys like Brassard doesn’t do anything except tie up cap and block young guys. If you don’t think a young guy with multiple pro seasons is the answer on the 4th line then that’s a whole other problem.
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Sep. 14, 2023 at 3:24 p.m.
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Brassard is garbage. I'd rather they signed another 6 guys on PTOs than sign Brass bollard.
Sep. 14, 2023 at 10:00 p.m.
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He 100% failed in the Avs system what makes you think an even older version all the sudden will, because he played better with other teams? That’s some flawed logic, it’s not like he was a 22yr old guy when he was here. Signing guys like Brassard doesn’t do anything except tie up cap and block young guys. If you don’t think a young guy with multiple pro seasons is the answer on the 4th line then that’s a whole other problem.


The system has changed the the roster is different. Besides like I said you can't fairly rate him after just a 20 game stint.
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Brassard is garbage. I'd rather they signed another 6 guys on PTOs than sign Brass bollard.


How is he garbage for the role he would play here and can you provide another proven, cheap option who isn't one of our prospects?
 
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