Flyers aren’t moving Tippett

This is a bad deal for TOR. Laughton is worth a 2nd. There is no. way Tippett is worth Nylander+

Edit: I saw we also get Zadorov, but still a no

You absolutely would for this haul. What an insane price for a 3rd liner and middle 6 winger.

This is the worst thing I have ever seen on this site

Yeah I don’t think I’d do any of this

Not really. Unless we get a grand haul (which we will not) we are losing a guy on pace for typical 30 goal seasons. All just to obtain a couple more pieces flipping Nylander while having to retain.

Tippet is nothing special. He's a 40 point middle 6 winger. And Laughton is a 30 point 3rd liner. Getting a 1st and an elite offensive player who absolutely brings back way more than this paltry return is a crazy big win. If you don't see it that way then you are either the biggest homer in the world or you hate the leafs more than you like Philly. There is no reasonable argument against this trade. It's a slam dunk 1 sided win for you.

Arguing my views isn't going anywhere because I know how much you value Nylander, but for a rebuilding team who in this scenario isn't even gaining Nylander and instead just flipping him, I'd rather keep the 24 year old who just neared 30 goals and 50-60 points other forcing someone else to take Nylander away from us.

Forcing? Yeah you're out to lunch. You hate the leafs more than you like hockey.

That RIP Masty dude is the biggest troll TML fan possible with 0 clue what is good for hockey period, that is why he is on my ignore list along with most of the rest of the horrible TML fans on this site lol.
He can't even research his stupid comments to see Laughton had 43 points not 30 and plays very physical which is what every single competing team in the NHL has on its 3rd and 4th lines . Not 6.9 M offence only Nylander as 3rd line centers. Only in Toronto are fans so blind to think this management has a clue and this team as is will win a cup. Tippet had 49 points so you think he would get less on TML also ? DUHHH.
These comments are for the TML fans who all disagree with the players I added btw.

I wrote a whole paragraph but its not worth it. Think whatever you want.

Yeah I really gotta stop trying to reason with this guy, he's just here to either a.) make Leafs fans look psycho or b.) make everyone else suffer. Either way its really unnecessary.

Says the guy who is trading a 40 goal scoring elite offensive player in his prime and a 1st for a 3rd liner and a middle 6 forward.

The hypocrisy of doing this troll post and then calling me a troll is truly outstanding.

Also I am very glad you mentioned the 43 point season from Laughton. That happened when he was playing top 6 minutes on a very terrible Flyers team. He produced 43 points while getting the most offensive opportunity of his career. Opportunities that absolutely will never come in TO. Tippet got 49 points while getting prime opportunity on a bad team. Nylander nearly outscored both of these guys while playing the same amount of time.

Thank you for setting me up for that gem. I doubt you'll learn anything from it but this is a learning opportunity. Next time take a look at the numbers first before spouting off nonsense.

This trade just doesn't make sense for either team. Nylander is certainly a great player for the Flyers to add, except he will be on the other side of 30 by the time the Flyers are actually going to be contending for the playoffs. I don't think his rental value is going to be so much greater than whatever the Flyers could get for Tippett + Laughton for it to make sense to move them. The Flyers come out ahead from an on-ice perspective, but even if Nylander nets (2) late first round picks, what are the odds they turn into someone like Tippett? I'd rather just keep the known commodity of someone who fits the team style and trajectory versus acquiring Nylander and then trying to flip him again at the deadline for another bite at the apple.

Far worse players have gone for massive hauls at the deadline. This is just nonsense

Lol reason? I think you should learn what reason is before using it in a sentence because there is no reasoning here. It's a massive bias towards the flyers and a massive bias against the leafs.

In this trade you are losing very little and getting an, in his prime, offensive super star. That you can afford to resign, or the very least retain half his salary and get multiple 1sts, top prospects and likely young roster players at the deadline. Getting 3 1sts (one from TO and at least 2 from some other team) an actual top prospect, and a roster player that will absolutely be on par with Tippet and better than Laughton is without question what you'd be looking at.

Saying Philly wouldn't want nylander because they are rebuilding is the dumbest thing. First and foremost, TO would never offer this and if you offered the leafs this trade they would just sigh and hang up and block your number. Because it's insane.

So if the leafs offered this insanity, any GM that says no would never work in hockey again.

Completely different market that doesn't scale for top players. Top players in general just don't get a haul, with the recent exception of Tkachuk, which has been positive sum for both teams. Mark Stone got a then-top prospect and a 2nd. Who even has the resources available and the proper timing to go all in on Nylander with no certainty of retaining him for the following seasons?

Dude you just yell at anyone who doesn't fully agree with you. How does me not liking this hurt the Leafs or mean I hate the Leafs? If it was a steal wouldn't I want it for the Leafs to suffer? Nylander is a great player who just doesn't fit the timeline for Philly and this trade would end up defining his value. Nobody's gonna trade us multiple 1sts after we get him for a "middle six guy and a 3rd liner", they'll offer that and maybe a bit more.

Just keep Nylander, if you'll excuse me I'm gonna go cry into my Leafs jersey because I hate it.

Lol double post

This is just silly

Can you provide two teams that fit the criteria that would mortgage their future for Nylander? Or any previous trade markets and the market conditions that lead to a return in the ballpark of what you're estimating here?

Only an angry person sees everything everyone else says as angry. This is laughable. It's understandable, when someone gets up and spouts off nonsense they have convinced themselves is true despite extremely evidence to the contrary, and that is met with laughter, I am certain that makes you mad. So you rationalize it away by convincing yourself the people laughing are angry. It's a rough cycle man

Who's mortgaging their future? Bubble teams or border line contenders? Most of them still have some pretty good prospects coming up. What about Dallas? What do you think they'll pay to add a 50% Nylander at the deadline? That's without even really thinking!

The reason you can't see this is because you don't want to. You, for whatever, reason (my guess is some dislike towards Nylander or The leafs) so you make up reasons it doesn't make sense and just refuse to see anything beyond a no. Get passed that and there is a chance for rational conversation

Contending teams won't pay to add 50% RS to a rental player. All the teams are against the cap so they'll need RS to even make it work. An extra 50%, sure I could see teams footing the bill for that. Dallas would be good to add but they'll want to keep Bourque, Stankoven, and Wyatt, so who's the forward prospect going back in that deal? Martino, a solid bottom-six upside player, if you're lucky?

I don't have any ill-will against Nylander or Toronto, just observing as a Flyers fan. Unless they have a deal in place to flip Nylander again immediately, I'd rather be on the safe side and keep a near 30-goal scorer and the de facto captain versus a player who could very well walk if there is no deal in place.