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What if Norris stays injured

Created by: SickoSens
Team: 2023-24 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 2, 2023
Published: Oct. 2, 2023
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This is a concept roster if Norris gets placed on LTRI
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$2,200,000
Trades
OTT
  1. Konecny, Travis
  2. 2024 3rd round pick (PHI)
PHI
  1. Boucher, Tyler
  2. Kelly, Parker
  3. Sokolov, Egor
  4. 2024 1st round pick (OTT)
  5. 2024 4th round pick (DET)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,500,000$80,824,880$0$1,850,000$2,675,120
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$8,205,714$8,205,714
LW
UFA - 5
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$8,350,000$8,350,000
C
UFA - 8
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 1
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$2,200,000$2,200,000
C
RFA - 1
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 2
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333
C, LW
RFA - 2
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$4,975,000$4,975,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
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$870,000$870,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$835,000$835,000
C, RW
RFA - 2
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$2,950,000$2,950,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,600,000$4,600,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
LD
UFA - 5
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$1,850,000$2M)
LD
UFA - 1
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$4,600,000$4,600,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 2
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD, LW
RFA - 1
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$805,000$805,000
RD
RFA - 2
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$7,950,000$7,950,000
C
UFA - 7
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$775,000$775,000
RW, C
UFA - 3

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Oct. 2, 2023 at 6:28 p.m.
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The problem with this, is that the cap would not work at all for when Norris does come back. Or when he comes back next year. Sure Tarasenko and Kubalik would be off the books and the cap will go up. BUT Sanderson is getting a 7m+ raise next year also.

This doesn't work.
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Oct. 2, 2023 at 6:31 p.m.
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God that offer would get laughed off the phone so fast lol that’s just quantity there’s no quality besides the first. Any TK trades starts with one of the 1sts and one of your top prospects just as a starting point. Briere doesn’t even want to move TK. It was rumored this offseason he wouldn’t even listen to offers that didn’t start with multiple 1sts and multiple good prospects
Oct. 2, 2023 at 6:33 p.m.
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Quoting: TMLBRIAN
The problem with this, is that the cap would not work at all for when Norris does come back. Or when he comes back next year. Sure Tarasenko and Kubalik would be off the books and the cap will go up. BUT Sanderson is getting a 7m+ raise next year also.

This doesn't work.


I see your point but many teams have done this and it works out, cap circumvention I know, but I say we let kubalik walk, maybe trade Joseph if needed, and see what we can do with a Tarasenko contract, I think we can fit the team under the cap if the right moves are done.
Oct. 2, 2023 at 6:36 p.m.
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God that offer would get laughed off the phone so fast lol that’s just quantity there’s no quality besides the first. Any TK trades starts with one of the 1sts and one of your top prospects just as a starting point. Briere doesn’t even want to move TK. It was rumored this offseason he wouldn’t even listen to offers that didn’t start with multiple 1sts and multiple good prospects


Both Boucher and Sokolov are top prospects. Sokolov easily makes your 3rd or 2nd line on a rebuilding team. Briere has shown interest in Boucher. We could add another first or another prospect, but the deal is pretty fair
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Oct. 2, 2023 at 6:43 p.m.
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Quoting: Celtic
Both Boucher and Sokolov are top prospects. Sokolov easily makes your 3rd or 2nd line on a rebuilding team. Briere has shown interest in Boucher. We could add another first or another prospect, but the deal is pretty fair


If you add another 1st the deal is fine. But let’s be real Bouch isn’t a top prospect. He has shown nothing and was a giant reach to begin with. Parker is also nothing. Sokolov I would like to have. I would do:

2024 1st (either), 2025 1st, Sokolov, Boucher

Or

2024 1st (either), 2nd, Sokolov, Jarventie
Oct. 3, 2023 at 7:16 a.m.
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Both Boucher and Sokolov are top prospects. Sokolov easily makes your 3rd or 2nd line on a rebuilding team. Briere has shown interest in Boucher. We could add another first or another prospect, but the deal is pretty fair


You mean the guy free on the waiver wire easily makes a 3rd or 2nd line?

Boucher is worth a 3rd at this point due to injuries, Sokolov is on waivers and free for anybody, Parker has no real value so its a 1st and 4th for Koneckny?
Oct. 4, 2023 at 10:38 a.m.
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I think you'd have to change the 4th to a 2nd and remove the 3rd coming from the Flyers. That 1st would also need to be the most valuable they have, so Detroit's

So it would be 1st (DET), 2nd (OTT), Boucher, Sokolov

Quoting: TMLBRIAN
The problem with this, is that the cap would not work at all for when Norris does come back. Or when he comes back next year. Sure Tarasenko and Kubalik would be off the books and the cap will go up. BUT Sanderson is getting a 7m+ raise next year also.

This doesn't work.

Actually, for next year, even with Sanderson's new AAV kicking in, and if you give Pinto 4.5 AAV, the Sens will have about 5.5 M$ to replace Tarasenko (even if Joseph is still here). Brannstrom will most likely not be there anymore, be traded to make room for Kleven

So actually, Konecny could be the guy replacing Tarasenko in the Top-6 but that would happen after the season. Sens can't afford him this season as Norris is healthy

Quoting: Celtic
Both Boucher and Sokolov are top prospects. Sokolov easily makes your 3rd or 2nd line on a rebuilding team. Briere has shown interest in Boucher. We could add another first or another prospect, but the deal is pretty fair

No they're not

Boucher was a stupid reach, he's an early 2nd round prospect who has been massively injury prone since being drafted. But apparently the Flyers value him so I would seize this opportunity

And Sokolov just got waived... although Santa Dorion has mostly no idea what he is doing... He was thought having 3rd/4th round pick value
 
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