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Josh Norris will go on LTIR for the year and then all our cap problems go away

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Team: 2023-24 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 4, 2023
Published: Oct. 4, 2023
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Oct. 4, 2023 at 4:21 p.m.
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Cap problems disappear - as well as your #2C. Who is your 3rd most important forward.

Bad trade in my mind.
Oct. 4, 2023 at 4:25 p.m.
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Quoting: TMLBRIAN
Cap problems disappear - as well as your #2C. Who is your 3rd most important forward.

Bad trade in my mind.


It is what it is.
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Oct. 4, 2023 at 4:30 p.m.
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Quoting: sensonfire
It is what it is.


For sure - This is why I assumed Ottawa has not unloaded cap. No need to unload cap until they 100% need to. Injuries in preseason to big players happen often.

Now they won't have to pay a bunch to get rid of Joseph - who they like and rather keep.

It gives them more time to look at cap solutions. And if Norris is out the entire year, they never need to.

They best be signing Pinto soon. 2 x 2.5m seems very reasonable for both sides.
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Oct. 4, 2023 at 4:34 p.m.
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Please don't sign Bailey, please don't sign Bailey

Dorion already gave 1-ways to Kelly, MacEwen and Hamonic (with a NMC)

Please don't sign Bailey, please don't sign Bailey
Oct. 4, 2023 at 5:00 p.m.
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Oh man, is he really out for the year???
Oct. 4, 2023 at 5:02 p.m.
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You can't just throw somebody on ltir for the whole year lol. Unless dr says so of course, but if this is one of those on/off tweaks, that makes cap complicated. Then again, I think they saw this coming, either now or later really. Best case is dr says 3-6 more months r&r...
Oct. 4, 2023 at 5:19 p.m.
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Oh man, is he really out for the year???


No, I'm just making an assumption.
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Oct. 4, 2023 at 5:25 p.m.
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No, I'm just making an assumption.


Oh ok. Thought I missed something! Is there even a lingering thought he may be that injured? Or is this simply to bypass all the cap dumping Kubalik/Joseph talk?
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Oct. 4, 2023 at 5:36 p.m.
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Oh ok. Thought I missed something! Is there even a lingering thought he may be that injured? Or is this simply to bypass all the cap dumping Kubalik/Joseph talk?


Apparently, Norris has had a bit of setback in his recovery.

https://twitter.com/TSN1200/status/1709580005859045873?s=20

He also has not yet been taken off of IR from last season and he hasn't seen much preseason action, if any.



IMO, our front office is probably preparing for a scenario where Norris does go on LTIR and Pinto is signed soon after.

If that happens, dumping Kubalik/Joseph becomes unnecessary and everybody in AGM can move on to something else lol.
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Oct. 4, 2023 at 9:54 p.m.
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Apparently, Norris has had a bit of setback in his recovery.

https://twitter.com/TSN1200/status/1709580005859045873?s=20

He also has not yet been taken off of IR from last season and he hasn't seen much preseason action, if any.



IMO, our front office is probably preparing for a scenario where Norris does go on LTIR and Pinto is signed soon after.

If that happens, dumping Kubalik/Joseph becomes unnecessary and everybody in AGM can move on to something else lol.


Ouufff not ideal but yeah would save having to move someone just to be compliant.
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