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2025-2026 with Tarasenko

Created by: TkachukNorris79
Team: 2025-26 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 27, 2023
Published: Oct. 5, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
OTT is in decent shape cap-wise after this year. They can give Chych 8m, Vladdy 6m, Pinto 5m, Greig 2.5m and Kleven 2.2M, while already having Stutzle, Tkachuk, Sanderson, Norris, Chabot, and Batherson all locked up.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$775,000
1$775,000
1$775,000
2$950,000
2$2,200,000
1$775,000
1$775,000
1$775,000
1$775,000
1$775,000
1$800,000
2$2,500,000
5$5,000,000
1$900,000
1$800,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$6,000,000
8$8,000,000
2$1,800,000
1$2,500,000
Trades
1.
OTT
  1. 2024 2nd round pick (TBL)
NSH
    Kubalik in Oct 2023
    2.
    OTT
    1. 2024 2nd round pick (NJD)
    SJS
    1. Brännström, Erik [RFA Rights]
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    Trade made at 2024 draft
    Buyouts
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2024
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    2025
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    2026
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    22$91,000,000$90,830,714$0$0$169,286

    Roster

    Left WingCentreRight Wing
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    $8,205,714$8,205,714
    LW
    NMC
    UFA - 3
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    $8,350,000$8,350,000
    C
    UFA - 6
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    $6,000,000$6,000,000
    RW
    UFA
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    $2,500,000$2,500,000
    C, LW
    RFA
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    $7,950,000$7,950,000
    C
    UFA - 5
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    $2,500,000$2,500,000
    RW, C
    UFA
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    $775,000$775,000
    LW
    RFA
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    $5,000,000$5,000,000
    C
    RFA
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    $4,975,000$4,975,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 2
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    $1,800,000$1,800,000
    LW
    UFA
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    $950,000$950,000
    C, RW
    RFA
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    $2,950,000$2,950,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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    $8,000,000$8,000,000
    LD/RD
    UFA
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    $8,050,000$8,050,000
    LD
    UFA - 7
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    $4,000,000$4,000,000
    G
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
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    $8,000,000$8,000,000
    LD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
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    $4,600,000$4,600,000
    RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Ottawa Senators
    $800,000$800,000
    G
    RFA
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    $2,200,000$2,200,000
    LD
    RFA
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    $775,000$775,000
    RD
    RFA
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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    $775,000$775,000
    RW, C
    UFA - 1
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    $800,000$800,000
    RD
    RFA

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    Oct. 5, 2023 at 11:23 a.m.
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    Nash won't pay a 2nd knowing you are crunched for cap, and we have no need to pay a 2nd for Kubalik anyway
    Oct. 5, 2023 at 11:31 a.m.
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    Quoting: Ennis
    Nash won't pay a 2nd knowing you are crunched for cap, and we have no need to pay a 2nd for Kubalik anyway


    I mean this is for 25-26 so if they don't trade him this year he'll be off the books as a UFA. Also not really crunched for cap, they can make it all work without trading anyone at this point, worst case scenario.
    Oct. 5, 2023 at 12:28 p.m.
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    Tarasenko is washed. Doubt he’s here longterm
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    Oct. 5, 2023 at 1:06 p.m.
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    Sharks gotta be pretty confident in their D-prospect pool / young NHLers right now. Zero chance Brannstrom is worth that, and less than zero chance the Sharks would be the one's paying that for him.

    Maybe if he was a RHD they'd be more interested, but certainly not that price
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    Oct. 5, 2023 at 10:08 p.m.
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    I think by then they'll target someone different than Tarasenko

    Quoting: AStovetop
    Sharks gotta be pretty confident in their D-prospect pool / young NHLers right now. Zero chance Brannstrom is worth that, and less than zero chance the Sharks would be the one's paying that for him.

    Brannstrom should be worth quite more than that by then but probably will already be on another team

    Doesn't have to be the Sharks. This trade is in the future and pretty much "any team"
    Oct. 6, 2023 at 11:12 a.m.
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    Quoting: Xspyrit
    I think by then they'll target someone different than Tarasenko


    Brannstrom should be worth quite more than that by then but probably will already be on another team

    Doesn't have to be the Sharks. This trade is in the future and pretty much "any team"


    You think he's worth more than a 2nd? As far as I know literally know one is looking to acquire him, and Ottawa needs to move someone to sign Pinto.

    Even if he was worth a 2nd it would be similar to Duclair. Florida had to move him for less than his actual worth to stay under the cap.
    Oct. 6, 2023 at 11:23 a.m.
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    Quoting: AStovetop
    You think he's worth more than a 2nd? As far as I know literally know one is looking to acquire him, and Ottawa needs to move someone to sign Pinto.

    Even if he was worth a 2nd it would be similar to Duclair. Florida had to move him for less than his actual worth to stay under the cap.

    How do you know no one wants to acquire him?

    All this "panic" has been created by CF, doesn't mean it's like that in reality. As far as we know, Norris will most likely starts on LTIR which is when they'll sign Pinto (to start the season cap compliant). Then it will depend on other injuries (on the Sens and other teams), they might just trade Kubalik (or Joseph)

    That said, this ACGM is for 2025-26 in case you didn't notice, they wouldn't be moving Brannstrom under the current context
    Oct. 6, 2023 at 11:37 a.m.
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    Quoting: Xspyrit
    How do you know no one wants to acquire him?

    All this "panic" has been created by CF, doesn't mean it's like that in reality. As far as we know, Norris will most likely starts on LTIR which is when they'll sign Pinto (to start the season cap compliant). Then it will depend on other injuries (on the Sens and other teams), they might just trade Kubalik (or Joseph)

    That said, this ACGM is for 2025-26 in case you didn't notice, they wouldn't be moving Brannstrom under the current context


    I said "as far as I know" meaning I haven't heard any reports of interest in him.

    That's not what I've heard at all. Last report I read a few days ago was Norris had a setback but is likely to be good to go opening night. certainly not LTIR eligible. 32 Thoughts also talked about how Joseph has been really impressive in camp.

    And that lessens the Sharks desire to get Brannstrom. Next year they'll have a lot of young d-men in their system that could make the jump to the NHL. There's no need for him at all
    Oct. 6, 2023 at 12:44 p.m.
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    Quoting: AStovetop
    I said "as far as I know" meaning I haven't heard any reports of interest in him.

    That's not what I've heard at all. Last report I read a few days ago was Norris had a setback but is likely to be good to go opening night. certainly not LTIR eligible. 32 Thoughts also talked about how Joseph has been really impressive in camp.

    And that lessens the Sharks desire to get Brannstrom. Next year they'll have a lot of young d-men in their system that could make the jump to the NHL. There's no need for him at all

    ok but yeah "reports" don't mean much in general, even if true or close to accurate, they only represent a very small portion of the real information

    And yeah, like in your following sentence, you can't take anything you hear in the medias as cash, like for any other world matter, not the "whole truth" will be revealed. At this point, we have no idea when exactly Norris is going to play. IMO, I think they are gaining time to start the season with Norris on LTIR because it gives them some benefits in the current situation. A player that is not 100% can stay on LTIR until he is 100%, but this we don't know, it's the doctor's job.

    Like I said already, doesn't have to be the Sharks. This trade is in the future and could pretty much be "any team"
    Oct. 6, 2023 at 1:15 p.m.
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    ok but yeah "reports" don't mean much in general, even if true or close to accurate, they only represent a very small portion of the real information

    And yeah, like in your following sentence, you can't take anything you hear in the medias as cash, like for any other world matter, not the "whole truth" will be revealed. At this point, we have no idea when exactly Norris is going to play. IMO, I think they are gaining time to start the season with Norris on LTIR because it gives them some benefits in the current situation. A player that is not 100% can stay on LTIR until he is 100%, but this we don't know, it's the doctor's job.

    Like I said already, doesn't have to be the Sharks. This trade is in the future and could pretty much be "any team"


    LTIR is reserved for players expected to miss 24 days or 10 consecutive games. If Norris is anticipated to play opening night then he's not eligible. If a player is deemed able to play then they have to be activated off LTIR so you better be damn sure he's missing a month. Otherwise it's blatant cap circumvention. Also if he IS going on LTIR for only a month or so, that doesn't buy you a lot of time to fix your cap problem. Which you'll probably have to GIVE UP picks to get money off the book out of desperation
    Oct. 6, 2023 at 3:45 p.m.
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    Quoting: AStovetop
    LTIR is reserved for players expected to miss 24 days or 10 consecutive games. If Norris is anticipated to play opening night then he's not eligible. If a player is deemed able to play then they have to be activated off LTIR so you better be damn sure he's missing a month. Otherwise it's blatant cap circumvention. Also if he IS going on LTIR for only a month or so, that doesn't buy you a lot of time to fix your cap problem. Which you'll probably have to GIVE UP picks to get money off the book out of desperation

    Again, we don't have these informations. Whatever is said in "reports" is either non factual or incomplete.

    Also, I have in general not a lot of "faith" in whatever Dorion does but thankfully it's not just him anymore, Andlauer has started to bring in competent people. Don't worry about the Sens situation. Wait for Pinto's AAV for this year to be revealed first.
    Oct. 6, 2023 at 4:21 p.m.
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    Quoting: Xspyrit
    Again, we don't have these informations. Whatever is said in "reports" is either non factual or incomplete.

    Also, I have in general not a lot of "faith" in whatever Dorion does but thankfully it's not just him anymore, Andlauer has started to bring in competent people. Don't worry about the Sens situation. Wait for Pinto's AAV for this year to be revealed first.


    I'm not worried at all about the Sens. I'm worried you think a team would give that much for Brannstom (barring a breakout year)
    Oct. 6, 2023 at 4:33 p.m.
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    I'm not worried at all about the Sens. I'm worried you think a team would give that much for Brannstom (barring a breakout year)

    Brannstrom was literally one of the best third pairing D-man in the NHL (Elite metrics vs his role) in his 23 y/o season

    He has averaged 24 pts per 82 games (mostly at ES) since he turned 21 y/o (2020-21 season), even his offense is underrated

    He has shown multiple times that he could be called upon when Chabot was injured and he did pretty well in the eye test (23+ minutes in some games). Advanced metrics suggest the same thing

    It's not because a young guy is STUCK behind a bunch of top pairing D-men (Ottawa has 3) than he has minimal value. If he scores 30+ pts this season, his value goes up by a good amount

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    So you don't have to worry about me because I only talk about things I really know about. My academic formation also leads to lean heavily on empiric evidence.
    Oct. 9, 2023 at 11:24 a.m.
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    Quoting: Xspyrit
    Brannstrom was literally one of the best third pairing D-man in the NHL (Elite metrics vs his role) in his 23 y/o season

    He has averaged 24 pts per 82 games (mostly at ES) since he turned 21 y/o (2020-21 season), even his offense is underrated

    He has shown multiple times that he could be called upon when Chabot was injured and he did pretty well in the eye test (23+ minutes in some games). Advanced metrics suggest the same thing

    It's not because a young guy is STUCK behind a bunch of top pairing D-men (Ottawa has 3) than he has minimal value. If he scores 30+ pts this season, his value goes up by a good amount

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    So you don't have to worry about me because I only talk about things I really know about. My academic formation also leads to lean heavily on empiric evidence.


    *Empirical Evidence
    Oct. 9, 2023 at 11:31 a.m.
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    *Empirical Evidence

    Sorry english is my 3rd language
     
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