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Team: 2023-24 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 12, 2023
Published: Oct. 12, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$2,100,000
Trades
PHI
  1. Joseph, Mathieu
  2. Sokolov, Egor
  3. 2025 2nd round pick (OTT)
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DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,500,000$80,957,380$0$1,850,000$2,542,620
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$8,205,714$8,205,714
LW
UFA - 5
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$8,350,000$8,350,000
C
UFA - 8
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 2
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$863,333$863,333
C, LW
RFA - 2
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$7,950,000$7,950,000
C
UFA - 7
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 1
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
C
RFA - 1
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$4,975,000$4,975,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
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$870,000$870,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$835,000$835,000
C, RW
RFA - 2
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$775,000$775,000
RW, C
UFA - 3
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$762,500$762,500
LW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
LD
UFA - 5
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$4,600,000$4,600,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$4,600,000$4,600,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 2
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 2
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD, LW
RFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$1,850,000$2M)
LD
UFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1

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Oct. 12, 2023 at 9:38 a.m.
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Leafs going to Leafs
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How long until Norris is back?
Oct. 12, 2023 at 9:52 a.m.
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Maybe not enough. PHI has alot of bottom 6 forwards, doesn;t need another, so they don;t need/want Joseph.

Sokolov passed through waivers so has little value to PHI. He probably goes to Lehigh anyways
Seeler based on last years metrics probably gets a 4th easily.
The 2nd is TWO drafts away

I think you either add something to sokolov, maybe even thomson or jbd who were both free on waivers and have limited value, or you have to add a better prospect. Or you add a 4th. And Jospeh unfortunately is a good player, its just right now, first month of season, he doesnl;t have his true value league wide, especially to a team that has a plethora of bottom 6 guys all signed relatively long term and for less.

Its just not enough there, even a 2nd for PHI to take a cap hit of 3 yrs for somebody they dont need/want.
Oct. 12, 2023 at 9:54 a.m.
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Keep Joseph
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Oct. 12, 2023 at 10:06 a.m.
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How long until Norris is back?


Soonish? Not going on LTIR but who knows cloud of mystery there
Oct. 12, 2023 at 10:07 a.m.
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Keep Joseph


Nope, need to clear 3 million as carrying a 22 man roster is ideal or else MacEwen and Hamonic are playing everynight
Oct. 12, 2023 at 10:07 a.m.
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Nope, need to clear 3 million as carrying a 22 man roster is ideal or else MacEwen and Hamonic are playing everynight


Move Kubalik . Joseph does a lot for this team
Oct. 12, 2023 at 10:10 a.m.
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Quoting: Hammerwise
Maybe not enough. PHI has alot of bottom 6 forwards, doesn;t need another, so they don;t need/want Joseph.

Sokolov passed through waivers so has little value to PHI. He probably goes to Lehigh anyways
Seeler based on last years metrics probably gets a 4th easily.
The 2nd is TWO drafts away

I think you either add something to sokolov, maybe even thomson or jbd who were both free on waivers and have limited value, or you have to add a better prospect. Or you add a 4th. And Jospeh unfortunately is a good player, its just right now, first month of season, he doesnl;t have his true value league wide, especially to a team that has a plethora of bottom 6 guys all signed relatively long term and for less.

Its just not enough there, even a 2nd for PHI to take a cap hit of 3 yrs for somebody they dont need/want.


Apparently Phila likes the player, fine to give up more, 2nd this year, Lassi/JBD w/e. If Seeler has value then another warm body vet is fine.
I actually really like MJ, super speedy, awesome PKer. But Sens need to clear at least 3 million. PD just needs to take his lumps
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Oct. 12, 2023 at 10:23 a.m.
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Yeah there’s no chance this is enough
Oct. 12, 2023 at 10:32 a.m.
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Quoting: cramd130
Apparently Phila likes the player, fine to give up more, 2nd this year, Lassi/JBD w/e. If Seeler has value then another warm body vet is fine.
I actually really like MJ, super speedy, awesome PKer. But Sens need to clear at least 3 million. PD just needs to take his lumps


Yeah, just a shame beacuse hes a good player, its just they waited so long on this that most teams are set and now hes seen as a cap dump in a league where most teams are capped, and those that arent dont have any roster space.

Even Philly has 7 dmen without room for attard, or have brink/foerster as 13th and allison in minors.

Sokolov, JBD and Thomson unfortunately have been a bit mismanaged, and since all 3 hit waivers their probably not too happy or confident. Sokolov at least plays LW, something PHI could use in minors, but Jospeh probably isnt getting top 9 time in PHI behind Koneckny, farabe,, foerster, brink, atkinson, tippett, laughton so hes probably fighting it out for 4th line time with one of brink/foerster, deslauriers and hathaway. JBD and Thomson at RD aren;t a need when Attard, Helge, Samson are in AHL either, so maybe a 2nd and 4th and 1 of those guys get in done, but i still think you're looking at something PHI wants besides or instead of a 2nd (Jarventie?)
Oct. 12, 2023 at 10:50 a.m.
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Leafs going to Leafs
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Soonish? Not going on LTIR but who knows cloud of mystery there


It's weird with him
Oct. 12, 2023 at 12:00 p.m.
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See you space cowboy
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Given that Sokolov was just waived and nobody claimed him, I don't see him as a sweetener to take Joseph. The 2nd is nice but I'd rather just replace Sokolov with a 3rd or something.
Oct. 14, 2023 at 12:52 p.m.
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Quoting: csick
Keep Joseph

Yes, keep Joseph, trade Kubalik, easy choice, particularly considering the compensation GMs want to get for Joseph.

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Nope, need to clear 3 million as carrying a 22 man roster is ideal or else MacEwen and Hamonic are playing everynight

At some point we'll have no choice to go with what Dorion has managed
 
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