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Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 13, 2023
Published: Oct. 13, 2023
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Trades
1.
MTL
  1. Boqvist, Adam
Additional Details:
MTL takes a chance on Boqvist who cant seem to stay healthy. Would be a great addition for the PP, I based the price on the Lundkvist trade last year.
CBJ
  1. Kidney, Riley
  2. Norlinder, Mattias
  3. 2025 2nd round pick (PIT)
Additional Details:
CBJ gets depth at LD, a future middle 6 guy and a 2nd for a player that seems behind Severson, Peeke and Jiricek on the right side (and Werenski if he returns)
2.
MTL
  1. Kubalik, Dominik
Additional Details:
I like Kubalik and we have the cap space available to get him at a discount. Dont like helping a division rival, but its worth it at this price.
OTT
  1. 2025 4th round pick (DET)
Additional Details:
Time isnt on Ottawa's side and they'll need to create some cap space at some point. Kubalik is the only way they get something and don't have to pay a team to take on one of their bad contracts (ex Joseph).
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DAL
  1. Monahan, Sean
  2. 2024 3rd round pick (MIN)
Additional Details:
Based on past deadline deals, Monahan will go for a late 1st/early 2nd pick if he can stay healthy until deadline. Dallas has a real shot at the cup and a vet like Monahan who can play anywhere in the line up would be a big addition. His cap hit would be really low with 20 games left in the season. Bourque will have a hard time cracking the Stars line up especially with Stankoven ahead of him in the pipeline. Its a hefty price, but I think it fits the Stars timeline. If Dallas isnt interested, Monahan can be traded to other contenders like Colorado or Toronto for a 1st.
4.
MTL
  1. 2025 6th round pick (COL)
Additional Details:
Habs running 3 goalies highly implies that Primeau wouldnt have cleared waivers. Better a late pick than nothing.
COL
  1. Primeau, Cayden
Additional Details:
Francouz out and Avs need a goalie. Cheap price to pay.
5.
MTL
  1. Greenway, Jordan
  2. Leinonen, Topias [Reserve List]
Additional Details:
Swapping Greenway for Dvorak is a W imo, especially with the retained salary on Dvorak. Sabres already have Levi so Leinonen can be a nice trade chip. I wouldnt be surprised if Ylonen does well under Granato.
BUF
  1. Dvorak, Christian ($1,450,000 retained)
  2. Ylönen, Jesse
Additional Details:
Habs dont have much goalies in the pipeline appart from Fowler who I like a lot, but isnt a guarentee to pan out at all. I like Ylonen but he doesnt have much place in the system.
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ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Oct. 13, 2023 at 3:44 p.m.
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The only way the Habs trade for Boqvist is if they move another dman on the team. If adding him means having to scratch Harris or Xhekaj etc then its one step forward, one step behind.

If we learned anything thus far this season for the Habs, its that their dcore is absolutely stacked for the future. Adding Boqvist would be nice but is by far not a necessity.
Oct. 13, 2023 at 4:12 p.m.
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I can't see Dallas giving up one of their best prospects for a rental Monahan and is merry injuries. Maybe a couple of mid picks but not Bourque.
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Oct. 13, 2023 at 4:13 p.m.
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There’s not much incentive for Buffalo to give up either of these pieces
Oct. 13, 2023 at 4:16 p.m.
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Quoting: F50marco
The only way the Habs trade for Boqvist is if they move another dman on the team. If adding him means having to scratch Harris or Xhekaj etc then its one step forward, one step behind.

If we learned anything thus far this season for the Habs, its that their dcore is absolutely stacked for the future. Adding Boqvist would be nice but is by far not a necessity.


Norlinder is going the other way.

I disagree, our D is not stacked at all at the moment. There is a logjam sure, and it will be stacked with Hutson and Reinbacher, but for now we have a hole on the right side and I hate playing LDs on their offside. Also appart from Matheson we have no one to move the puck up or run PP2. I like Barron but he has the same profile as Ghule, and Savard wont be there for long which creates another hole at RD. Im not high on Mailloux and Harris still hasnt shown that he deserves a place over Xhekaj. I wouldnt be against trading him.

We shouldnt hold back from acquiring players that fit our needs just to save a spot for a guy who hasnt earned it.
Oct. 13, 2023 at 4:17 p.m.
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Quoting: Lsendel3
There’s not much incentive for Buffalo to give up either of these pieces


Disagree
Oct. 13, 2023 at 4:20 p.m.
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I can't see Dallas giving up one of their best prospects for a rental Monahan and is merry injuries. Maybe a couple of mid picks but not Bourque.


Foligno, Savard, Goodrow, Pageau, Kase, Coleman, Zucker all went for a 1st.

Monahan is not going for mid picks if hes healthy. Swap Bourque for a 1st if you want but I know Hughes prefers prospects closer to the NHL.
Oct. 13, 2023 at 4:21 p.m.
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Quoting: patnaisnyquil
Disagree


The Sabres LAUGH at your proposal
It’s a joke

Dvorak, or a similar player, could be had without giving up a good goalie prospect
And we didn’t draft Leinonen to turn around & trade him away so quickly

There’s ZERO CHANCE of this trade happening
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Oct. 13, 2023 at 4:48 p.m.
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The avs don't need a goalie anymore now that we've acquired Provsetov
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Oct. 13, 2023 at 4:49 p.m.
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Quoting: AntiAnalytics
The Sabres LAUGH at your proposal
It’s a joke

Dvorak, or a similar player, could be had without giving up a good goalie prospect
And we didn’t draft Leinonen to turn around & trade him away so quickly

There’s ZERO CHANCE of this trade happening


What do you think you have to give to get Dvorak or a similar player? Always the same on here, "my player is worth a lot and yours is worth nothing". Unserious people.

Your GM gave a 2nd for Greenway my guy I wouldnt be so sure theres no chance of any trade happening
Oct. 13, 2023 at 4:51 p.m.
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Quoting: Novistic
The avs don't need a goalie anymore now that we've acquired Provsetov


Yeah I missed that, point still stands some teams are interested in Primeau otherwise he wouldve been waived by now
Oct. 13, 2023 at 5:05 p.m.
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Monahan is not going for a first or borque lol. If teams wanted him that bad he wouldn’t have signed for peanuts in free agency
Oct. 13, 2023 at 5:16 p.m.
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Monahan is not going for a first or borque lol. If teams wanted him that bad he wouldn’t have signed for peanuts in free agency


He signed an extension before free agency buddy
Oct. 13, 2023 at 5:27 p.m.
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Quoting: patnaisnyquil
Disagree


I mean in your write up, you spell it out that Mtl is getting the 2 better pieces. Dvorak is washed. And Ylönen is nothing Buf doesn’t have in their system 10 times over and better. They give up a useful bottom 6 forward who they just traded a second for, and a goalie project, who they drafted in the second round. Whether that should have happened or not is irrelevant as Buf management is high on him, regardless of Levi. So yeah, there’s nothing there for Buf and upside for Mtl.
Oct. 13, 2023 at 5:30 p.m.
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Quoting: patnaisnyquil
What do you think you have to give to get Dvorak or a similar player? Always the same on here, "my player is worth a lot and yours is worth nothing". Unserious people.

Your GM gave a 2nd for Greenway my guy I wouldnt be so sure theres no chance of any trade happening


That’s why they wouldn’t trade him. Also, to add to my post, if Ylönen doesn’t have room in Mtl system, how’s he going to in a system that has more competition currently in Buf? Or are you thinking Mtl has a better collection of winger/winger prospects than Buf. Because they don’t. They do have better D prospects though.
Oct. 13, 2023 at 5:39 p.m.
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Sabres decline, easily
Oct. 13, 2023 at 6:01 p.m.
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Norlinder is going the other way.

I disagree, our D is not stacked at all at the moment. There is a logjam sure, and it will be stacked with Hutson and Reinbacher, but for now we have a hole on the right side and I hate playing LDs on their offside. Also appart from Matheson we have no one to move the puck up or run PP2. I like Barron but he has the same profile as Ghule, and Savard wont be there for long which creates another hole at RD. Im not high on Mailloux and Harris still hasnt shown that he deserves a place over Xhekaj. I wouldnt be against trading him.

We shouldnt hold back from acquiring players that fit our needs just to save a spot for a guy who hasnt earned it.


*Somebody from the roster has to be moved out* Is what I meant by that.

I disagree though. Habs have a ton of current NHL dmen and up and coming NHL dmen on the way and they are trading for a player that is not an upgrade overall, on many of them. Probably the best PP specialist of all of them, sure but that's it. Guy isn't cracking the Columbus lineup so its not like he's a world beater here. That right side is going to be filled with Reinbacher as soon as next year and Barron/Mailloux are on the cusp of making it also. Not too mention Savard isn't going anywhere this year and Kovacevic has earned full minutes with the team now and has been solid. Having Harris play the rightside is a luxury.

Harris isn't a flashy dman but his numbers are usually very good away from the puck. I know its hard to look at that and be impressed but he's a good dman. Him being able to play both sides is actually a real asset too.

Maybe a more apropos offer would be Harris for Boqvist straight up.

Im not opposed to getting Boqvist but it has to be because we're moving out other roster dmen on the team. Harris as a 7th dman is pointless.
Oct. 13, 2023 at 6:03 p.m.
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Quoting: patnaisnyquil
Foligno, Savard, Goodrow, Pageau, Kase, Coleman, Zucker all went for a 1st.

Monahan is not going for mid picks if hes healthy. Swap Bourque for a 1st if you want but I know Hughes prefers prospects closer to the NHL.


Fair, but I don't think any of those guys had the same level of injury issues Monahan has. They might move a 1st but I see the Stars doing that for defense as its their weakest position.
Oct. 13, 2023 at 6:04 p.m.
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What do you think you have to give to get Dvorak or a similar player? Always the same on here, "my player is worth a lot and yours is worth nothing". Unserious people.

Your GM gave a 2nd for Greenway my guy I wouldnt be so sure theres no chance of any trade happening


We overpaid for Greenway bc there were other teams going after him & our coach had a personal connection & wanted him
So he’s not getting traded

For Dvorak, or a similar player, we could give up- AT MOST- a 2nd…. And probably wouldn’t even cost that much
Frankly, he declined last year & we probably wouldn’t even be interested

Thinking we’d give up a good goalie prospect for a bottom6 forward is ABSURD

There’s ZERO CHANCE
Oct. 13, 2023 at 6:33 p.m.
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Stars aren’t trading Bourque for a rental. If they do it’ll be for somebody more high impact than Monahan
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Oct. 13, 2023 at 7:24 p.m.
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I would do this for Ottawa. I realize that to trade Kubalik I have to sell him at a discount because the team acquiring him will want to make a profit at the deadline (probably a 2nd) so that’s what it is
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Oct. 13, 2023 at 7:49 p.m.
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I’d do the Ottawa trade. Think Kubalik would fetch the habs a 2nd at the TDL so helps them and gets sens out of cap hell
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Oct. 14, 2023 at 8:26 a.m.
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Quoting: AntiAnalytics
We overpaid for Greenway bc there were other teams going after him & our coach had a personal connection & wanted him
So he’s not getting traded

For Dvorak, or a similar player, we could give up- AT MOST- a 2nd…. And probably wouldn’t even cost that much
Frankly, he declined last year & we probably wouldn’t even be interested

Thinking we’d give up a good goalie prospect for a bottom6 forward is ABSURD

There’s ZERO CHANCE


Leinonen isnt that good of a prospect you trippin. Goalie market is rough as well.

Greenway is trash so idk why he wouldnt be traded. Just cause you overpaid doesnt mean hes still worth that.

Some sabres fan just proposed Ylonen for Leinon+Okposo, guess Im not that far off buddy
Oct. 14, 2023 at 8:30 a.m.
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Stars aren’t trading Bourque for a rental. If they do it’ll be for somebody more high impact than Monahan


Only trade I wasnt too sure. I know the Stars would prefer to target a Dman like Hanifin but idk how they can make that work with the salary cap. Gotta keep in mind that the salary coming in is huge for a contending team and Monahan at around 900k is an absolute bargain. Like I said, if not the Stars I can see Toronto, Edmonton or Colorado going for it. Bidding wars are real and after all we did get a 1st for Chiarot lmao
Oct. 14, 2023 at 8:36 a.m.
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That’s why they wouldn’t trade him. Also, to add to my post, if Ylönen doesn’t have room in Mtl system, how’s he going to in a system that has more competition currently in Buf? Or are you thinking Mtl has a better collection of winger/winger prospects than Buf. Because they don’t. They do have better D prospects though.


He does have room, he earned his spot and scored in the first game on the 4th line. Should have 3rd line promotion soon. I do think that Roy and Farrell have higher ceilings, and unfortunately I dont think we can move Gallagher and Anderson (the Sabres dont have washed up vets signed for 4+ years taking a roster spot is what I meant). So yeah, might as well use him to try and improve our goaltending. Hes still young and has great tools.
Oct. 14, 2023 at 8:51 a.m.
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I mean in your write up, you spell it out that Mtl is getting the 2 better pieces. Dvorak is washed. And Ylönen is nothing Buf doesn’t have in their system 10 times over and better. They give up a useful bottom 6 forward who they just traded a second for, and a goalie project, who they drafted in the second round. Whether that should have happened or not is irrelevant as Buf management is high on him, regardless of Levi. So yeah, there’s nothing there for Buf and upside for Mtl.


Dvorak is washed but Greenway is a useful bottom 6. Ok bud. Just cause they overpaid for him doesnt mean hes still worth a 2nd. Sabres need a C who can take draws and kill penalties while having an offensive touch. Just because he was drafted in the 2nd round doesnt mean Leinonen is a great prospect, hes a project and Sabres window is coming soon. I can use the same logic and say Ylonen is very valuable because he was drafted 35th overall (almost ppg in the AHL last year). Savoie, Kulich, Ohgren arent ready for the NHL, Ylonen is and has great tools.

Yall are clueless
 
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