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Stanley Cup Champs

Created by: SomeonesOffended
Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 19, 2023
Published: Oct. 19, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Saros, Juuse ($2,000,000 retained)
NSH
  1. Samsonov, Ilya
  2. 2024 1st round pick (TOR)
  3. 2024 4th round pick (TOR)
2.
TOR
  1. Tanev, Christopher ($2,250,000 retained)
CGY
  1. Järnkrok, Calle
  2. 2026 1st round pick (TOR)
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Top ten protected
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$83,500,000$79,889,783$0$0$3,610,217
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 1
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$3,000,000$3,000,000
C, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$845,833$845,833
C, LW
RFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$775,000$775,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$796,667$796,667
LW, RW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,400,000$2,400,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,350,000$1,350,000
RW
UFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$7,500,000$7,500,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 7
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-$1,125,000-$1,125,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Nashville Predators
$3,000,000$3,000,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,400,000$1,400,000
RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$766,667$766,667
G
RFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$4,150,000$4,150,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,100,000$1,100,000
RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$4,687,500$4,687,500
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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Oct. 19, 2023 at 7:38 p.m.
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Quoting: SomeonesOffended
Great edits after I’ve already responded Jesus anyways I’ve said enough this conversation is over

Sure, but you liked the value here and there was no retention. We have you a 3rd and it would cost you that to get 50% retention from a 3rd Team:

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/4640878
Oct. 19, 2023 at 7:40 p.m.
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Sure, but you liked the value here and there was no retention. We have you a 3rd and it would cost you that to get 50% retention from a 3rd Team:

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/4640878


I’m not even going to look at that because it’s pointless I know this is a good deal you’re delusional if you think it’s not you definitely don’t get more than a first and a third for tanev 50% retained
Oct. 19, 2023 at 7:44 p.m.
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A first and a 4th is all he’s worth the very best goalie in the league is only worth a 1st and a 2nd goalies don’t hold that much value and I figured if you sell samsonov for a second that will pay for the retention


Then i give him to someone that has a higher first or just keep him? Noone that wants samsanov can take his whole cap and just give a 2nd.
Oct. 19, 2023 at 7:45 p.m.
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Then i give him to someone that has a higher first or just keep him? Noone that wants samsanov can take his whole cap and just give a 2nd.


Okay
Oct. 19, 2023 at 7:45 p.m.
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I’m not even going to look at that because it’s pointless I know this is a good deal you’re delusional if you think it’s not you definitely don’t get more than a first and a third for tanev 50% retained

Where’s the 3rd!? You’re sending a player with term that CGY doesn’t need in order to fit Tanev under the Cap. Still have to compensate for the retention and again, we don’t want TOR’s crappy 1st. We’ll get better offerS elsewhere

Everyone else will look at it and see you are all over the place with what you think is “fair value”
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Oct. 19, 2023 at 7:49 p.m.
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For those Nashville fans that think Saros is worth the world and more is going to be sorely disappointed when/if he does get traded.

@someonesoffended - I personally think you did a great job on this thread. Both trades are very realistic and could very well potentially happen.
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Oct. 19, 2023 at 7:50 p.m.
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Quoting: KingofRnR
Where’s the 3rd!? You’re sending a player with term that CGY doesn’t need in order to fit Tanev under the Cap. Still have to compensate for the retention and again, we don’t want TOR’s crappy 1st. We’ll get better offerS elsewhere

Everyone else will look at it and see you are all over the place with what you think is “fair value”


Just quit man not one person has given me any trouble over this trade in fact when I did a post for Calgary selling for the deadline I had Calgary fans say this was they’re favourite and I traded tanev zadorov Hanifin and lindholm
Oct. 19, 2023 at 7:51 p.m.
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For those Nashville fans that think Saros is worth the world and more is going to be sorely disappointed when/if he does get traded.

someonesoffended - I personally think you did a great job on this thread. Both trades are very realistic and could very well potentially happen.


Thank you I try to be realistic and I realize players cost a lot and I’ve paid a lot here
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Oct. 19, 2023 at 7:52 p.m.
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Quoting: KingofRnR
Where’s the 3rd!? You’re sending a player with term that CGY doesn’t need in order to fit Tanev under the Cap. Still have to compensate for the retention and again, we don’t want TOR’s crappy 1st. We’ll get better offerS elsewhere

Everyone else will look at it and see you are all over the place with what you think is “fair value”


And the 3rd is coming from jarnkrok when you sell him or you hold onto him till the next deadline and retain and sell him for a second
Oct. 19, 2023 at 8:10 p.m.
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His mother obviously over values him as any mother should but Sammy brings a second back he’s had two bad games but he was good last year and he’ll be good tonight


So one year of Samsonov is worth a 2nd. With retention (the max on that would be $1.775M), he's worth a 1st. Yet two years of Saros (a demonstrably better and more consistent goalie) with more retention for twice as long is only worth a 1st, 2nd & a 4th? I don't see how you're arriving at these player values.
Oct. 19, 2023 at 8:18 p.m.
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So one year of Samsonov is worth a 2nd. With retention (the max on that would be $1.775M), he's worth a 1st. Yet two years of Saros (a demonstrably better and more consistent goalie) with more retention for twice as long is only worth a 1st, 2nd & a 4th? I don't see how you're arriving at these player values.


Samsonov is only worth a first if he’s half retained
Oct. 19, 2023 at 8:19 p.m.
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So one year of Samsonov is worth a 2nd. With retention (the max on that would be $1.775M), he's worth a 1st. Yet two years of Saros (a demonstrably better and more consistent goalie) with more retention for twice as long is only worth a 1st, 2nd & a 4th? I don't see how you're arriving at these player values.


This conversation is over anyways let’s be done with it
Oct. 19, 2023 at 8:21 p.m.
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Samsonov is only worth a first if he’s half retained


Reread the second sentence.
Oct. 19, 2023 at 8:25 p.m.
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Reread the second sentence.


Goalies don’t have a lot of value Connor helly arguably the best goalie was getting traded half retained only for 1 year for a 1st and a 2nd before he resigned and saros isn’t as good but I know there’s an extra year of retention on there so that’s why I had samsonov in there for the retention and a first and a 4th for saros which is fair
Oct. 19, 2023 at 8:47 p.m.
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Goalies don’t have a lot of value Connor helly arguably the best goalie was getting traded half retained only for 1 year for a 1st and a 2nd before he resigned and saros isn’t as good but I know there’s an extra year of retention on there so that’s why I had samsonov in there for the retention and a first and a 4th for saros which is fair


Regardless of how much you think goalies are worth in general, you're over valuing Samsonov, and under valuing Saros. You've said Samsonov is worth a 2nd (a 1st, with max retention). Yet you're offering a 1st, 4th and Sasmonov (who you feel NSH could flip for a 2nd) for Saros. Despite the fact NSH is giving up the much better player. Who's signed for an extra year. And NSH has to retain more money on Saros for twice as long as anyone retaining on Sasmonov would. By your logic, NSH should be getting more than two 1sts for two years of Saros with $2M in retention, if one year of Samsonov with $1.775M in retention is worth a 1st.

I don't know how to explain that any more clearly to you.
Oct. 19, 2023 at 9:02 p.m.
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Find one comment from a flames fan not telling you this is a garbage deal. Why choose to just blatantly lie?? You’ve never made a Flames post for as long as Jarnkrok has been on the roster and you have been given a million reasons as to why it’s a terrible deal. I get that the RnR guy is a clueless pompous loser but choosing to lie to end the conversation isn’t the move.


I have made 1 flames team and no word of a lie a Calgary fan said that was his favourite trade and I had lindholm going to Columbus for they’re 1st which would be top 10 at least zadorov to the oilers for a 2nd with a 5th going to the oilers aswell Hanifin went somewhere I can’t remember but he was half retained and a got a 1st a 2nd and a 3rd and a fan said they liked the leaf’s trade the best go search through the Calgary teams it was a while ago but you’ll find it eventually
Oct. 19, 2023 at 9:06 p.m.
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I have made 1 flames team and no word of a lie a Calgary fan said that was his favourite trade and I had lindholm going to Columbus for they’re 1st which would be top 10 at least zadorov to the oilers for a 2nd with a 5th going to the oilers aswell Hanifin went somewhere I can’t remember but he was half retained and a got a 1st a 2nd and a 3rd and a fan said they liked the leaf’s trade the best go search through the Calgary teams it was a while ago but you’ll find it eventually


You’re fully aware people can just scroll through your Armchair GM posts right? That doesn’t exist and you’re doubling down on being full of garbage
Oct. 19, 2023 at 9:07 p.m.
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You’re fully aware people can just scroll through your Armchair GM posts right? That doesn’t exist and you’re doubling down on being full of garbage


Okay it was on my other account go check out dustinbrown1989
Oct. 19, 2023 at 9:11 p.m.
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Okay it was on my other account go check out dustinbrown1989


You’d think someone trying to prove they’re not full of **** would produce the receipt no? Beyond that, why say no one gives you flak for the trade when you’ve been told it’s bad so so so many times, but got told it was okay one time?? The trade makes no sense at all.
Oct. 19, 2023 at 9:13 p.m.
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You’d think someone trying to prove they’re not full of **** would produce the receipt no? Beyond that, why say no one gives you flak for the trade when you’ve been told it’s bad so so so many times, but got told it was okay one time?? The trade makes no sense at all.


Okay bro whatever helps you sleep at night
Oct. 19, 2023 at 9:15 p.m.
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Okay bro whatever helps you sleep at night


I sleep fine. I don’t need to lie to people on a website of fake hockey teams to try feel good about myself.. that’s the only question that stands here.. maybe(!!) one person has told you it’s good, but you can’t find that post anywhere.. multiple have told you it’s not good, bad or really bad, how’s that math work?
Oct. 19, 2023 at 9:20 p.m.
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HOLD ON!!!! Even when you lie you lie again!!!! A Leafs fan said he would do it!! A guy who notoriously overvalues Leaf players with a profile name with TML in it!!! This is one of the funniest string of events I have seen on here!!! Let’s start with.. you need two accounts on here because you crave validation so badly and then you make stuff up the entire time on one of them!! Really really spectacular stuff.
Oct. 19, 2023 at 10:03 p.m.
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For those Nashville fans that think Saros is worth the world and more is going to be sorely disappointed when/if he does get traded.

someonesoffended - I personally think you did a great job on this thread. Both trades are very realistic and could very well potentially happen.


lol. not a chance. a late first and an unwanted middle of the road starter does not come close, AND he wants us to retain. if saros was made publicly available tomorrow this lousy offer gets beat pretty fast. the reason goalies dont have high value is because teams dont trade one of the top goalies in the league if they have them. trotz has 0 reason to sell low just to appease toronto. like @Ennis said above, the kings almost traded for saros and the reported offer was a lot better than this lmao.

try again
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Oct. 19, 2023 at 10:10 p.m.
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Goalies don’t have a lot of value Connor helly arguably the best goalie was getting traded half retained only for 1 year for a 1st and a 2nd before he resigned


source: you made this up

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and saros isn’t as good but I know there’s an extra year of retention on there so that’s why I had samsonov in there for the retention and a first and a 4th for saros which is fair


no matter how many times u tell yourself this, its wrong. and what do you mean saros isnt as good? you titled this team cup champs after you lowballed for him. hes a top 5 goalie in the league bruh its okay to admit when ur wrong
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Oct. 20, 2023 at 10:40 a.m.
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Okay bro whatever helps you sleep at night


Prophetic username you've given yourself, huh?
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