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Peg shakeup

Created by: GM_SZK
Team: 2023-24 Winnipeg Jets
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 20, 2023
Published: Oct. 20, 2023
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Get some draft picks now

Can retain and trade Domi and others if needed at the TDL, always a need for vets at that time
Trades
1.
WPG
  1. Domi, Max
  2. Liljegren, Timothy
  3. 2024 3rd round pick (NYI)
  4. 2024 5th round pick (VAN)
  5. 2024 7th round pick (OTT)
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Toronto also pays a team to retain some
2.
3.
WPG
  1. Joseph, Mathieu
  2. 2024 1st round pick (OTT)
OTT
  1. Stanley, Logan
  2. 2024 3rd round pick (NYI)
Buyouts
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2024
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2025
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2026
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20$83,500,000$75,732,858$0$850,000$7,767,142
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$7,142,857$7,142,857
LW
UFA - 3
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$6,125,000$6,125,000
C
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW, LW
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
C
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UFA - 3
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$2,166,667$2,166,667
RW
UFA - 2
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, C
RFA - 1
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
C, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$2,950,000$2,950,000
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UFA - 3
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$1,350,000$1,350,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
C, LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 2
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$6,250,000$6,250,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 5
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$3,900,000$3,900,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$6,166,667$6,166,667
G
NMC
UFA - 1
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$3,900,000$3,900,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$5,875,000$5,875,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
LD
RFA - 2
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$775,000$775,000
LD/RD
RFA - 1
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$3,437,500$3,437,500
RW, C
RFA - 2
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Oct. 20, 2023 at 9:44 p.m.
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Carter wouldn’t waive.
Oct. 20, 2023 at 9:50 p.m.
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Quoting: JuanDamienNebraska
Carter wouldn’t waive.


Dubas has ways of making him waive…also promise is to trade him to a contender
Oct. 20, 2023 at 9:56 p.m.
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Why are you getting a 1st round pick in exchange for Logan Stanley?
Oct. 20, 2023 at 9:58 p.m.
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Why are you getting a 1st round pick in exchange for Logan Stanley?


Ottawa wants cap space when Zub is back…also it’s not a first it’s the diff between a high first and a mid third prolly
Oct. 20, 2023 at 10:00 p.m.
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Ottawa wants cap space when Zub is back…also it’s not a first it’s the diff between a high first and a mid third prolly


Ottawa is a bubble team this season. That 1st could very well be a lottery pick. $1.8M in cap relief isn't going to return that pick.
Oct. 20, 2023 at 10:05 p.m.
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That Leafs trade makes no sense for TO...
Oct. 20, 2023 at 10:54 p.m.
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Ottawa doesn't give up the best asset AND best player in the deal

Decline x 10

Quoting: tkecanuck341
Ottawa is a bubble team this season. That 1st could very well be a lottery pick.

I know it's early but you should watch them play

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Ottawa wants cap space when Zub is back…also it’s not a first it’s the diff between a high first and a mid third prolly

Problem is it doesn't account that Joseph >>>>>>> Stanley

The 1st to "dump" Joseph boat has SUNK a few weeks ago, it was one team aiming high but missed. Ottawa will not pay anything to move him and probably not move him at all.
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Oct. 20, 2023 at 11:09 p.m.
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Quoting: Leafsfan98
That Leafs trade makes no sense for TO...


No sense? Hmm…

Demelo slides in with Reilly (check out how he plays with Morrisey), don’t the Leafs want someone that pairs properly with him? You know an actual top pairing D?

Domi not looking so good is he? Maybe Tre does him a solid and gets a more suitable winger in Nino? Domi goes from one home to another.
Oct. 20, 2023 at 11:11 p.m.
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Ottawa is a bubble team this season. That 1st could very well be a lottery pick. $1.8M in cap relief isn't going to return that pick.


Wow I figure Ottawa knows they are in like Flynn? But ok it’s protected
Oct. 20, 2023 at 11:17 p.m.
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Quoting: Xspyrit
Ottawa doesn't give up the best asset AND best player in the deal

Decline x 10


I know it's early but you should watch them play


Problem is it doesn't account that Joseph >>>>>>> Stanley

The 1st to "dump" Joseph boat has SUNK a few weeks ago, it was one team aiming high but missed. Ottawa will not pay anything to move him and probably not move him at all.


I do agree with you that Ottawa looks set for the playoffs hence I just assumed they would want to make some cap space, sign Pinto…figured they would like Stanley and his size in what looks like a tough division…and some one needs to clear the Leafs from the net area (that’s a joke of course)

Also they get a 3rd back and what’s a 20-30th pick vs a 50-60 pick for all that?

If you take ego out of the trade doesn’t this set Ottawa up well? If not what’s your counter proposal?
Oct. 20, 2023 at 11:23 p.m.
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Edited Oct. 20, 2023 at 11:35 p.m.
Maybe....but Lijegren would need to prove he has any value first. If not, none of the dominos would fall
Oct. 20, 2023 at 11:35 p.m.
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Quoting: Xspyrit
I know it's early but you should watch them play.


Only one of Buffalo, Detroit, or Ottawa is going to make it this year. It could very well be Ottawa, but it also very well might not be.
Oct. 21, 2023 at 7:45 a.m.
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I do agree with you that Ottawa looks set for the playoffs hence I just assumed they would want to make some cap space, sign Pinto…figured they would like Stanley and his size in what looks like a tough division…and some one needs to clear the Leafs from the net area (that’s a joke of course)

Also they get a 3rd back and what’s a 20-30th pick vs a 50-60 pick for all that?

If you take ego out of the trade doesn’t this set Ottawa up well? If not what’s your counter proposal?


Joseph has looked exactly like he did when he came over from Tampa and just like he was expected to last year. I have a hard time seeing him get moved at all let alone with any kind of sweetener.

Kubalik for a mid round pick is likely the answer to the cap question for the Sens.

Quoting: tkecanuck341
Only one of Buffalo, Detroit, or Ottawa is going to make it this year. It could very well be Ottawa, but it also very well might not be.


Detroit’s looked good but Buffalo has not, likely a year and a stable goalie away from the playoffs. I’ll take Ottawa over Detroit this year but I understand it looking like a toss up right now. Still early.
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Oct. 21, 2023 at 8:37 a.m.
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No sense? Hmm…

Demelo slides in with Reilly (check out how he plays with Morrisey), don’t the Leafs want someone that pairs properly with him? You know an actual top pairing D?

Domi not looking so good is he? Maybe Tre does him a solid and gets a more suitable winger in Nino? Domi goes from one home to another.


Leafs get older... in more cap trouble, giving up more draft picks and the most valuable player in the trade (Lilly)

Leafs can't be over the cap though... And Lilly's been fine beside Rielly

Give Domi a break, it's been 4 games and you're already saying he's not good in Toronto... Give him time to figure out his identity
Oct. 31, 2023 at 9:49 a.m.
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I do agree with you that Ottawa looks set for the playoffs hence I just assumed they would want to make some cap space, sign Pinto…figured they would like Stanley and his size in what looks like a tough division…and some one needs to clear the Leafs from the net area (that’s a joke of course)

Also they get a 3rd back and what’s a 20-30th pick vs a 50-60 pick for all that?

If you take ego out of the trade doesn’t this set Ottawa up well? If not what’s your counter proposal?

Sorry for the late reply, was mad busy last week

Ok so we didn't know about the real Pinto situation so all the "Ottawa is DESPERATE to make some cap space" speculation ended up wrong but nobody really knew so not going to hold it against you.

But even if they were, they would NEVER do anything close to that.

Even if he is big, Stanley is just not good enough and is not that physical.

Also, not going to hold it against you that Joseph would have that type of season. I was one of the very few who saw it coming and repeated it all summer. I took a lot of heat on this forum for that. He now has 7 pts in 8 games, is +5 and has been key as usual defensively and on the PK. I repeated all the way since Tarasenko was signed that the guy to trade was Kubalik, not Joseph

So not only I wouldn't trade Joseph for a 2nd round pick, even if you replace him with Kubalik, it never made any sense to move a 1st round pick to clear cap space. Sens don't have a Zaitsev/Murray contract anymore as they already paid to move them, that huge ransom ask was just a stupid CF narrative all the way and time proved it. Briere crazy asks (a 1st to take Joseph, a 1st+ to trade Laughton lol is just a newbie GM trying to bend other GMs over, he's not scared to try)

So now, Joseph has re-established positive value, Sens are not looking to clear cap space anymore (maybe in January but we'll see) and Stanley is not a need. I would make a trade for a good physical RHD, but not Stanley who is also a LHD (not a need at all)

Also, a 3rd round pick has minimal value compared to a 1st round pick, no matter where these picks end in the round. My counter proposal would have been (before the Pinto suspension) Kubalik for any pick and that's it.

Not sure what you mean by "ego" lol, it was just a terrible trade for Ottawa, even worse than the many blunders Dorion has made.
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Oct. 31, 2023 at 6:48 p.m.
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Sorry for the late reply, was mad busy last week

Ok so we didn't know about the real Pinto situation so all the "Ottawa is DESPERATE to make some cap space" speculation ended up wrong but nobody really knew so not going to hold it against you.

But even if they were, they would NEVER do anything close to that.

Even if he is big, Stanley is just not good enough and is not that physical.

Also, not going to hold it against you that Joseph would have that type of season. I was one of the very few who saw it coming and repeated it all summer. I took a lot of heat on this forum for that. He now has 7 pts in 8 games, is +5 and has been key as usual defensively and on the PK. I repeated all the way since Tarasenko was signed that the guy to trade was Kubalik, not Joseph

So not only I wouldn't trade Joseph for a 2nd round pick, even if you replace him with Kubalik, it never made any sense to move a 1st round pick to clear cap space. Sens don't have a Zaitsev/Murray contract anymore as they already paid to move them, that huge ransom ask was just a stupid CF narrative all the way and time proved it. Briere crazy asks (a 1st to take Joseph, a 1st+ to trade Laughton lol is just a newbie GM trying to bend other GMs over, he's not scared to try)

So now, Joseph has re-established positive value, Sens are not looking to clear cap space anymore (maybe in January but we'll see) and Stanley is not a need. I would make a trade for a good physical RHD, but not Stanley who is also a LHD (not a need at all)

Also, a 3rd round pick has minimal value compared to a 1st round pick, no matter where these picks end in the round. My counter proposal would have been (before the Pinto suspension) Kubalik for any pick and that's it.

Not sure what you mean by "ego" lol, it was just a terrible trade for Ottawa, even worse than the many blunders Dorion has made.


It’s amazing how outdated my post is and many similar others after just a few weeks. Will be interesting to see what Ottawa does, prolly not much and I think that’s fine. Feel for them as I thought they would do well.
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Nov. 1, 2023 at 2:24 p.m.
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It’s amazing how outdated my post is and many similar others after just a few weeks. Will be interesting to see what Ottawa does, prolly not much and I think that’s fine. Feel for them as I thought they would do well.

Well, Dorion is most likely getting fired today so grab some popcorn, it's not over lol
 
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