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Shane Pinto

Created by: GMDannyB
Team: 2023-24 Philadelphia Flyers
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 21, 2023
Published: Oct. 21, 2023
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Garrioch seemed to insinuate during the intermission of the Sens game that we will have clarity on Pinto soon and it doesn’t sound like an extension is imminent.

Flyers fans what are your thoughts on this trade if they decide to part with Pinto?
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  1. Pinto, Shane [RFA Rights]
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I honestly think Frost is more valuable than Pinto and production wise Frost has better stats at similar ages but I think this trade fits both teams I think Frost is done in Philly and it’s clear Torts isn’t a fan of him so maybe we lose some leverage on that so I wouldn’t mind pay a 3rd to make up that difference even if I think Frost is worth more.
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Oct. 21, 2023 at 3:32 p.m.
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Oct. 21, 2023 at 3:36 p.m.
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We would have to take a contract back to make this work, but the base of the trade seems fine to me.
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Oct. 21, 2023 at 3:37 p.m.
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My guess is, if he's traded, it would be for picks only. Frost is a great player but we would have the same problem we do now with the cap.
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Oct. 21, 2023 at 3:40 p.m.
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Moss_Bucket Lights Renegade_H thoughts?


Wouldn’t mind this from the Flyers side of things
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Oct. 21, 2023 at 3:42 p.m.
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My guess is, if he's traded, it would be for picks only. Frost is a great player but we would have the same problem we do now with the cap.


Yeah I’d see something like a 2nd for him and maybe a late round pick
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Oct. 21, 2023 at 3:46 p.m.
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Yeah I’d see something like a 2nd for him and maybe a late round pick


Ironic cause most Sens fans I have seen want more than a 1st 2nd and 3rd that other teams have been putting on here lol
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Wouldn’t mind this from the Flyers side of things


Totally agree
Oct. 21, 2023 at 3:47 p.m.
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Quoting: BillytheKid3
My guess is, if he's traded, it would be for picks only. Frost is a great player but we would have the same problem we do now with the cap.


I like talking to you cause you seem like one of the more sane Sens fans on here but everything I have heard is that Sens would want a player that can immediately step in. I also don’t think picks would work because Flyers probably aren’t giving up 1sts and 2nds rn
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Oct. 21, 2023 at 3:48 p.m.
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We would have to take a contract back to make this work, but the base of the trade seems fine to me.


Couldn’t remember how to spell ur name to tag you lol but yeah they also could just move Kubalik or Brannstrom to make the cap works themselves. I don’t see us being able to take back either guy because we are already pretty filled
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Oct. 21, 2023 at 3:55 p.m.
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I like talking to you cause you seem like one of the more sane Sens fans on here but everything I have heard is that Sens would want a player that can immediately step in. I also don’t think picks would work because Flyers probably aren’t giving up 1sts and 2nds rn


Any chance you guys are interested in trading for Dorion? ... lol

We'll add a first rounder.
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Oct. 21, 2023 at 3:57 p.m.
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Quoting: BillytheKid3
Any chance you guys are interested in trading for Dorion? ... lol

We'll add a first rounder.


We finally got rid of Chuck who was even worse so I think we are going to have to pass on Dorion
Oct. 21, 2023 at 4:03 p.m.
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We finally got rid of Chuck who was even worse so I think we are going to have to pass on Dorion


Shame, the thrill of finding out you've traded the farm system to rent Duchene for a year and a half is unmatched... I promise.
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Oct. 21, 2023 at 4:15 p.m.
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Shame, the thrill of finding out you've traded the farm system to rent Duchene for a year and a half is unmatched... I promise.


😂😂
Oct. 21, 2023 at 4:41 p.m.
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Quoting: GMDannyB
Couldn’t remember how to spell ur name to tag you lol but yeah they also could just move Kubalik or Brannstrom to make the cap works themselves. I don’t see us being able to take back either guy because we are already pretty filled


Brännström could get a spot on our defense, but Kubalik would have to be flipped to another team.

Also one potential issue with Frost/Pinto is that where do they fit in the long-term future if Gauthier plays center when he comes over. Gauthier would be our 1C in the long-term. Also Coots has looked pretty good so far, so He will still be a good player when they exit the rebuild. When they finally breakout of the rebuild Coots and Gauthier are the 1C/2C, which leaves 3C for Frost/Pinto which is where I see Cates being in the future, so there is no good spot for them in the long-term future at center. They would have to move to the wings if they want to have a spot in the long-term future.
Oct. 21, 2023 at 4:51 p.m.
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If Frost is a problem in Philly, he would likely be a problem in Ottawa.

Coach DJ is an Old School hockey coach as well.

And a bad game is no excuse for making a bad trade.

Ottawa declines.
Oct. 21, 2023 at 4:55 p.m.
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If Frost is a problem in Philly, he would likely be a problem in Ottawa.

Coach DJ is an Old School hockey coach as well.

And a bad game is no excuse for making a bad trade.

Ottawa declines.


Yeah yeah u would decline anything short of Bedard, if it’s gotten to the point where Pinto is being traded u would be lucky to get this kind of return.
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Quoting: Roperttos
Brännström could get a spot on our defense, but Kubalik would have to be flipped to another team.

Also one potential issue with Frost/Pinto is that where do they fit in the long-term future if Gauthier plays center when he comes over. Gauthier would be our 1C in the long-term. Also Coots has looked pretty good so far, so He will still be a good player when they exit the rebuild. When they finally breakout of the rebuild Coots and Gauthier are the 1C/2C, which leaves 3C for Frost/Pinto which is where I see Cates being in the future, so there is no good spot for them in the long-term future at center. They would have to move to the wings if they want to have a spot in the long-term future.


Cates was a winger like his entire life. I wouldn’t have a problem moving him back to LW especially since we are light there. I think a line of Cates Pinto Brink/Foerster would be a real solid 3rd line moving forward.
Oct. 21, 2023 at 4:57 p.m.
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Get ready for a barrage of Sens fans demanding three firsts, your best player, and your firstborn.
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Oct. 21, 2023 at 4:58 p.m.
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Yeah yeah u would decline anything short of Bedard, if it’s gotten to the point where Pinto is being traded u would be lucky to get this kind of return.


I just accepted a 1st + a 2nd + a 3rd from Richard88.

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/4652371


Your nose is as long as Pinocchio's right about now lol.
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I just accepted a 1st + a 2nd + a 3rd from Richard88.

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/4652371


Your nose is as long as Pinocchio's right about now lol.


Frost is literally worth a 1st and 2nd so what do you think a Frost and a 3rd is? I listened to all of you complain for the last two months how you want an immediate impact player and now picks is just good enough this is why I couldn’t care less what any of you think cause u move the goalposts every 10 minutes
Oct. 21, 2023 at 5:03 p.m.
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Get ready for a barrage of Sens fans demanding three firsts, your best player, and your firstborn.


Don’t care their opinions are useless to me anyways lol
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Oct. 21, 2023 at 5:04 p.m.
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Cates was a winger like his entire life. I wouldn’t have a problem moving him back to LW especially since we are light there. I think a line of Cates Pinto Brink/Foerster would be a real solid 3rd line moving forward.


Cates could be put back to LW but his defensive game would be best utilizes as a C. If Coots gets dropped to 3C and plays with Cates that line would be an elite shutdown line in the future.
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Cates could be put back to LW but his defensive game would be best utilizes as a C. If Coots gets dropped to 3C and plays with Cates that line would be an elite shutdown line in the future.


Agreed but that won’t be for years at minimum I don’t think
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Oct. 21, 2023 at 5:12 p.m.
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Yeah I’d see something like a 2nd for him and maybe a late round pick


Lol a 2nd? Lmao no chance
Oct. 21, 2023 at 5:13 p.m.
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Quoting: GMDannyB
Frost is literally worth a 1st and 2nd so what do you think a Frost and a 3rd is? I listened to all of you complain for the last two months how you want an immediate impact player and now picks is just good enough this is why I couldn’t care less what any of you think cause u move the goalposts every 10 minutes


Frost is currently a healthy scratch for the Flyers, so he might even clear waivers.

And the picks in the trade with Colorado can be used to acquire an immediate impact player.



And I'm sorry your offer for Pinto fell short once again.

Feel free to try again.
 
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