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Acquiring Campbell and Flipping the assets

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Team: 2024-25 Washington Capitals
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 23, 2023
Published: Oct. 23, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$950,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,750,000
2$1,750,000
2$1,750,000
4$4,000,000
5$4,500,000
2$1,000,000
3$3,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$1,500,000
Trades
1.
WSH
  1. Broberg, Philip [RFA Rights]
  2. Campbell, Jack
  3. 2024 1st round pick (EDM)
  4. 2025 1st round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Dowd, Nic ($650,000 retained)
  2. Kuemper, Darcy
2.
WSH
  1. 2024 2nd round pick (SEA)
SEA
  1. Kuznetsov, Evgeny ($1,800,000 retained)
Additional Details:
At the draft. Could be to any team
3.
WSH
  1. Faksa, Radek
  2. 2024 1st round pick (DAL)
4.
WSH
  1. Pinto, Shane [RFA Rights]
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (OTT)
OTT
  1. Alexeyev, Alexander
  2. 2024 1st round pick (DAL)
  3. 2025 1st round pick (EDM)
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$87,500,000$85,289,167$0$807,500$2,210,833
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$9,500,000$9,500,000
LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
C
UFA - 4
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$950,000$950,000
RW
RFA
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
LW, C
RFA
$3,000,000$3,000,000
C
RFA
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW
M-NTC
UFA - 7
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$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$750,000$750K)
LW
RFA - 2
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$9,200,000$9,200,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
RW, C
RFA
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$1,900,000$1,900,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
RW, LW, C
UFA - 5
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$5,750,000$5,750,000
RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LD
RFA
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
G
UFA - 1
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$2,675,000$2,675,000
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
RD
UFA - 2
$1,500,000$1,500,000
G
UFA
Logo of the Washington Capitals
$1,750,000$1,750,000
LD
RFA
Logo of the Washington Capitals
$814,167$814,167 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
$1,000,000$1,000,000
LD
RFA

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Oct. 23, 2023 at 3:06 p.m.
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Kuemper will need to put up better numbers this season to justify the trade for Edmonton,
Oct. 23, 2023 at 3:18 p.m.
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How much of an upgrade is keumper over Campbell? Certainly not a first round pick worth let alone 2 and broberg
Oct. 23, 2023 at 3:24 p.m.
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I actually might do this deal from Edmonton's perspective, even if their fans might underrate the gap between Kuemper and Campbell. There should be a team willing to do that deal for Jensen. The Pinto deal is probably good value wise, I'm just not sure Ottawa feels particularly enticed by it.

Overall, though, on the highly reasonable end of posting here
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Oct. 23, 2023 at 3:27 p.m.
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Quoting: tryger
Kuemper will need to put up better numbers this season to justify the trade for Edmonton,


The only reason his numbers aren't elite is because the caps defense as a whole is very weak. No physicality. I don't expect other fans to watch all the caps games but I wanna say he looks really good in net despite the rough defense.
Oct. 23, 2023 at 3:29 p.m.
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Quoting: stuuuuuuuuuuutzle
I actually might do this deal from Edmonton's perspective, even if their fans might underrate the gap between Kuemper and Campbell. There should be a team willing to do that deal for Jensen. The Pinto deal is probably good value wise, I'm just not sure Ottawa feels particularly enticed by it.

Overall, though, on the highly reasonable end of posting here


I think giving up Jensen and taking on a 3.25m x 2 contract of a bottom 6 forward would warrant the first; at the very least a couple of second rounders. Agreed on Pinto - Ottawa isn't rebuilding so it depends on what they want to do with Pinto. They have expressed an interest in holding onto him, but he's a 2C stuck in a 3C role because Ottawa's center core is elite. If they can afford him, I'd understand them not wanting to move him. Appreciate the constructive feedback.
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Oct. 23, 2023 at 3:32 p.m.
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I think giving up Jensen and taking on a 3.25m x 2 contract of a bottom 6 forward would warrant the first; at the very least a couple of second rounders. Agreed on Pinto - Ottawa isn't rebuilding so it depends on what they want to do with Pinto. They have expressed an interest in holding onto him, but he's a 2C stuck in a 3C role because Ottawa's center core is elite. If they can afford him, I'd understand them not wanting to move him. Appreciate the constructive feedback.


I'd argue Pinto could be fourth at this stage, because Greig has had a really hot start. I just feel like Ottawa would only trade Pinto for a slam dunk until it becomes obvious how exactly the forward core is going to shake out. Maybe in the summer if Greig keeps it up, they'd consider this. Because the value isn't really the issue.
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Oct. 23, 2023 at 3:32 p.m.
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The only reason his numbers aren't elite is because the caps defense as a whole is very weak. No physicality. I don't expect other fans to watch all the caps games but I wanna say he looks really good in net despite the rough defense.


Kuemper's best numbers in the league was when he played with the Kings, we know how good he is. But he also is 33 with three more seasons after this one and currently has a 0.887 SV%. If you paid 3 1st round pick type assets, you'd not want to pay so much to just go from one problem in net to another.
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Oct. 23, 2023 at 3:36 p.m.
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How much of an upgrade is keumper over Campbell? Certainly not a first round pick worth let alone 2 and broberg


It’s costs all of that just to dump Campbell EDM would be lucky to get this back
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Oct. 23, 2023 at 3:39 p.m.
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Kuemper's best numbers in the league was when he played with the Kings, we know how good he is. But he also is 33 with three more seasons after this one and currently has a 0.887 SV%. If you paid 3 1st round pick type assets, you'd not want to pay so much to just go from one problem in net to another.


I agree, I wouldn't be super upset if you took out Broberg or changed one of the firsts to a second and maybe took the retention off Dowd. That way it's not such a huge price to pay for the bit of uncertainty there is.
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Oct. 23, 2023 at 3:44 p.m.
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I agree, I wouldn't be super upset if you took out Broberg or changed one of the firsts to a second and maybe took the retention off Dowd. That way it's not such a huge price to pay for the bit of uncertainty there is.


That would be fair, but if Kuemper is below .900 at goal, no doubt Holland gets fired. He's already in trouble from the Campbell contract so he can make no more mistakes at goal.

Edmonton needs to pay like 2-3 1st round assets and drop Campbells contract and just sell whatever they can and get Hart. This is their win now window, unfortunately I feel that Keumper is in a very similar place as John Gibson, these are borderline elite goalies whose contracts have enough risk that they hurt their selling value.
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Oct. 23, 2023 at 3:49 p.m.
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Can't see Edmonton doing that after Cambell has yet to play even 40 total regular season games for the team. Maybe at the end of the season if Campbell is atrocious again this season.

Also if Edmonton is giving up 2 first rounders and broberg, then you can bet they'd want cap relief, adding Kuemper doesn't do that
Oct. 23, 2023 at 4:49 p.m.
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That's a lot for Edmonton to give up just to lose in the second round again
Oct. 23, 2023 at 4:55 p.m.
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if they do something similar to the first three deals, the "soft reset" is 1000% over, no need to then flip those assets into Pinto, as much as I like the player
Oct. 23, 2023 at 9:11 p.m.
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I don't know, value isn't bad but if it comes to this (trading Pinto) I'd rather see a prospect + pick

Some other fans made better offers
Oct. 24, 2023 at 9:32 a.m.
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I don't know, value isn't bad but if it comes to this (trading Pinto) I'd rather see a prospect + pick

Some other fans made better offers


It seems like the value is there but the Sens probably want something with a more immediate impact.
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Oct. 24, 2023 at 10:06 a.m.
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It’s costs all of that just to dump Campbell EDM would be lucky to get this back


Yes but keumper isn’t much better if at all than Campbell and has a bigger contract. More likely to be a hockey trade than this
Oct. 24, 2023 at 1:09 p.m.
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It seems like the value is there but the Sens probably want something with a more immediate impact.

Yeah but they can't even afford immediate impact as there is no cap space and the only 2 waivers exempt players are Sanderson and Greig... so unless they move someone, they already have their roster for this season
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