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would love to make something like this work-what do you think calgary fans

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Team: 2023-24 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 21, 2023
Published: Oct. 27, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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  1. Tanev, Christopher ($2,000,000 retained)
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  1. Kastelic, Mark
  2. Kubalik, Dominik
  3. 2025 2nd round pick (OTT)
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21$83,500,000$72,251,547$0$1,850,000$11,248,453
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$8,205,714$8,205,714
LW
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$8,350,000$8,350,000
C
UFA - 8
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
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UFA - 2
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$894,167$894,167
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RFA - 2
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$7,950,000$7,950,000
C
UFA - 7
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$4,975,000$4,975,000
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UFA - 4
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$2,950,000$2,950,000
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UFA - 3
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$863,333$863,333
C, LW
RFA - 2
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
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NTC
UFA - 1
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$870,000$870,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
C
UFA - 1
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$762,500$762,500
LW
RFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$1,850,000$2M)
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UFA - 1
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-$875,000-$875,000
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UFA - 1
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
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UFA - 5
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UFA - 2
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 2
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 2
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$916,667$916,667
LD
RFA - 2
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$813,333$813,333
RD
RFA - 1
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$805,000$805,000
RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
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RFA - 1
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
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UFA - 5
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Oct. 27, 2023 at 11:29 p.m.
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Edited Oct. 27, 2023 at 11:37 p.m.
Change the 2nd to a 1st and add JBD as a replacement RD and maybe we’d consider it 🤔

Actually, we would probably take Pinto’s Signing Rights instead of the 1st. Yes, even though he’s suspended
Oct. 27, 2023 at 11:30 p.m.
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Kastelic is a pretty replaceable player and Kubalik does nothing for Calgary. If the Flames sell Tanev will probably have decently high demand, especially if retained. I imagine the minimum price is 2 2nds and maybe even a mid-late 1st
Oct. 27, 2023 at 11:31 p.m.
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This shouldn't be enough for Calgary, but if it somehow was I would do it
Oct. 28, 2023 at 3:33 a.m.
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Quoting: KingofRnR
Change the 2nd to a 1st and add JBD as a replacement RD and maybe we’d consider it 🤔

Actually, we would probably take Pinto’s Signing Rights instead of the 1st. Yes, even though he’s suspended


No interest in Kastelic or Kubalik but we could be talked into taking Kubalik to balance the cap.

And yes Pinto's rights would work well for us. It'd be extra cap space until the extension runs out and a low prorated cap hit after he's re-signed.
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Oct. 28, 2023 at 6:23 a.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Kastelic is a pretty replaceable player and Kubalik does nothing for Calgary. If the Flames sell Tanev will probably have decently high demand, especially if retained. I imagine the minimum price is 2 2nds and maybe even a mid-late 1st

Two 2nds is probably a little rich, maybe a 2nd and a prospect
Quoting: KingofRnR
Change the 2nd to a 1st and add JBD as a replacement RD and maybe we’d consider it 🤔

Actually, we would probably take Pinto’s Signing Rights instead of the 1st. Yes, even though he’s suspended


Quoting: MoxNix
No interest in Kastelic or Kubalik but we could be talked into taking Kubalik to balance the cap.

And yes Pinto's rights would work well for us. It'd be extra cap space until the extension runs out and a low prorated cap hit after he's re-signed.


LOL trading a 1st or Pinto plus for a 33 year old defenceman on a 1 year deal definitely makes a lot of sense....... No thanks from OTT
Oct. 28, 2023 at 6:26 a.m.
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LOL trading a 1st or Pinto plus for a 33 year old defenceman on a 1 year deal definitely makes a lot of sense....... No thanks from OTT


Weird how you bring up his age and term as if they don't completely contradict eachother.

It's also clear you have no idea who Chris Tanev is
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Oct. 28, 2023 at 6:33 a.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Weird how you bring up his age and term as if they don't completely contradict eachother.

It's also clear you have no idea who Chris Tanev is


How do they contradict each other? Smart GMs would never, ever, consider trading a mid 1st or a 23 year old two way C for someone who is only getting worse and most definitely won't be around long term.

They moved 1sts for DeBrincat and Chychrun but both were long-term plays (at the time of the trade lol). Both were 25, not 33, Tanev might get a 1st+ from a cup contender at the deadline if you're lucky. But definitely not from Ottawa
Oct. 28, 2023 at 8:51 a.m.
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How do they contradict each other? Smart GMs would never, ever, consider trading a mid 1st or a 23 year old two way C for someone who is only getting worse and most definitely won't be around long term.

They moved 1sts for DeBrincat and Chychrun but both were long-term plays (at the time of the trade lol). Both were 25, not 33, Tanev might get a 1st+ from a cup contender at the deadline if you're lucky. But definitely not from Ottawa


What 2 way C? -21 and 3rd worst +/- on his team last year isn't a 2 way C.
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Oct. 28, 2023 at 9:07 a.m.
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Quoting: KingofRnR
Change the 2nd to a 1st and add JBD as a replacement RD and maybe we’d consider it 🤔

Actually, we would probably take Pinto’s Signing Rights instead of the 1st. Yes, even though he’s suspended


Wouldn't even consider moving Pinto and a 1st seems a bit rich. I'd consider a conditional 1st/2nd.
Oct. 28, 2023 at 12:14 p.m.
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Quoting: TkachukNorris79
How do they contradict each other? Smart GMs would never, ever, consider trading a mid 1st or a 23 year old two way C for someone who is only getting worse and most definitely won't be around long term.

They moved 1sts for DeBrincat and Chychrun but both were long-term plays (at the time of the trade lol). Both were 25, not 33, Tanev might get a 1st+ from a cup contender at the deadline if you're lucky. But definitely not from Ottawa


Quoting: TkachukNorris79
How do they contradict each other? Smart GMs would never, ever, consider trading a mid 1st or a 23 year old two way C for someone who is only getting worse and most definitely won't be around long term.

They moved 1sts for DeBrincat and Chychrun but both were long-term plays (at the time of the trade lol). Both were 25, not 33, Tanev might get a 1st+ from a cup contender at the deadline if you're lucky. But definitely not from Ottawa


How is he going to get worse? He's on the final year of his contract and would be a deadline addition. He literally doesn't have a chance to age poorly, thats why it's a contradiction.

I never said anything about it having to be Ottawa that trades for him. But Tanev has been without question the best defensive defenseman in the league over the past 3 years. Hence why I said he will cost a minimum of 2 2nds.

Ottawa moved a top 10 pick for DeBrincat and #12 for Chychrun, stop grouping those picks in with picks from the 22+ range
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Oct. 29, 2023 at 1:22 a.m.
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What 2 way C? -21 and 3rd worst +/- on his team last year isn't a 2 way C.

EV defense 68% percentile in his rookie season, after missing a full year due to injury and being thrown in a tough role with purely offensive forwards. +/- is useless, you have to look at expected goals

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
How is he going to get worse? He's on the final year of his contract and would be a deadline addition. He literally doesn't have a chance to age poorly, thats why it's a contradiction.

I never said anything about it having to be Ottawa that trades for him. But Tanev has been without question the best defensive defenseman in the league over the past 3 years. Hence why I said he will cost a minimum of 2 2nds.

Ottawa moved a top 10 pick for DeBrincat and #12 for Chychrun, stop grouping those picks in with picks from the 22+ range

He wasn't talking about Tanev's contract but more his body...

There is absolutely no chance they would consider moving Pinto for Tanev considering they wouldn't want to move for Chychrun just a few months ago

I'd love to find a way to add Tanev but I don't see how. Ottawa has not made the playoffs yet, it would be counter-productive to trade a young player for an older player, with low term too

Kubalik + Brannstron + 2nd (Flames would keep Brannstrom and sell Kubalik themselves). I love Brannstrom and he's seriously underrated but the need is on RHD. I really want someone to play with Chabot too

Sanderson - Zub
Chabot - Tanev
Chychrun - Hamonic
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