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Cap Dump 3 for 1

Created by: MoxNix
Published: Oct. 30, 2023 at 4:06 p.m.
Salary Cap: $83,500,000
Season Days: 171/192 (89%)
Central Registry Determination: This trade has been rejected because one of the teams exceeds the 23 player roster limit

Logo of the Calgary FlamesCalgary Flames

Trade occurred while using LTIR
LTIR Relief: $3,800,000
LTIR Used Prior to Trade: $3,328,333
Coincident TransactionInitial StatusNew StatusCap Hit ChangeRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Kylington, OliverLTIRIR$00-----------
Rooney, KevinLTIRMinor-$1,150,0000-----------
OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Huberdeau, JonathanCalgary FlamesNHL-$10,500,000011---9235--
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Armia, JoelMontreal CanadiensNHL-$3,400,000011---1101--
Anderson, JoshMontreal CanadiensNHL-$5,500,000011---8011--
Dvorak, ChristianMontreal CanadiensLTIR-$4,450,000011---0000--
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial-$2,178,333234564369
Change$2,750,000122000
Final$571,667 (↑)24 (↑)47 (↑)66 (↑)369-1-2-3

Logo of the Montreal CanadiensMontreal Canadiens

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Armia, JoelMontreal CanadiensNHL-$3,400,000011---1101--
Anderson, JoshMontreal CanadiensNHL-$5,500,000011---8011--
Dvorak, ChristianMontreal CanadiensLTIR-$4,450,000011---0000--
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Huberdeau, JonathanCalgary FlamesNHL-$10,500,000011---9235--
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$8,721,6672346734916
Change-$1,600,000-1-2-2000
Final$7,121,667 (↓)22 (↓)44 (↓)71 (↓)4916123
Oct. 30, 2023 at 5:13 p.m.
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At least add a prospect
Oct. 30, 2023 at 7:08 p.m.
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At least add a prospect


We could do that but it wouldn't be a top prospect.
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Oct. 30, 2023 at 8:04 p.m.
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Anderson would need to be replaced by Gallagher to make us consuder a bit
Oct. 30, 2023 at 8:16 p.m.
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You’re mind is so warped that you think Huberdeau is now a negative asset, and to this extent? Teams will pay to acquire him once they’re able to afford it when the cap goes up. He’s a 90-100 point player. He just happens to be in a bad situation with one of the most dysfunctional teams in the league.
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Oct. 30, 2023 at 8:44 p.m.
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You’re mind is so warped that you think Huberdeau is now a negative asset, and to this extent? Teams will pay to acquire him once they’re able to afford it when the cap goes up. He’s a 90-100 point player. He just happens to be in a bad situation with one of the most dysfunctional teams in the league.


Ok what's your offer then?

This gets us out of Huberdeau's contract and gets us players who while overpaid will be useful for the early stages of a rebuild and have contracts that will expire before the new stadium in Calgary opens. I agree it's a dysfunctional team put together by an incompetent GM (Treliving) however many of the individual players will be fine on a properly constructed team. They just need to be separated from each other and spread out around the league.
Oct. 30, 2023 at 8:58 p.m.
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Ok what's your offer then?

This gets us out of Huberdeau's contract and gets us players who while overpaid will be useful for the early stages of a rebuild and have contracts that will expire before the new stadium in Calgary opens. I agree it's a dysfunctional team put together by an incompetent GM (Treliving) however many of the individual players will be fine on a properly constructed team. They just need to be separated from each other and spread out around the league.


You wait until next offseason when the cap goes up considerably and teams have some money. Then you take back a unwanted contract along with some futures. I don’t think this is the right deal for Montreal but if they were going to make this deal I’d say, Armia, take your 1st in 2025 back and a B prospect like Norlinder who we have no room for even though he should’ve made the team because he was amazing in preseason.

I’m not saying he’s going to be worth what he would’ve been a year and a half ago due to his poor play and Calgary’s leverage in the situation, but what you’ve suggested is extreme. He’s still going to be worth something. The second he gets in a better situation he’ll be a ppg player or better and he probably has 5 more seasons like that in him.

A year and a half ago he was what, a top 5 winger in the league? What’s changed? Only his situation.
Oct. 30, 2023 at 9:19 p.m.
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You wait until next offseason when the cap goes up considerably and teams have some money. Then you take back a unwanted contract along with some futures. I don’t think this is the right deal for Montreal but if they were going to make this deal I’d say, Armia, take your 1st in 2025 back and a B prospect like Norlinder who we have no room for even though he should’ve made the team because he was amazing in preseason.

I’m not saying he’s going to be worth what he would’ve been a year and a half ago due to his poor play and Calgary’s leverage in the situation, but what you’ve suggested is extreme. He’s still going to be worth something. The second he gets in a better situation he’ll be a ppg player or better and he probably has 5 more seasons like that in him.

A year and a half ago he was what, a top 5 winger in the league? What’s changed? Only his situation.


Of course I'd take that but he needs to at least start showing flashes of the player he used to be to get that kind of return.

My proposal isn't selling as low as you seem to think it is either. They'd actually be useful for 2-3 years on a rebuilding team. Their cap hits won't be an issue in fact they'll make it easy to remain over the floor while bringing in young players. Anderson and Dvorak are both gritty players, Dvorak can play center while Anderson has good speed plus he's a pretty tough guy and a good fighter who can protect the younger/smaller players too. Armia isn't known as a gritty player but he's big enough he shouldn't be easy to push around either. Counting this year Anderson has 4 years left on his contract while Dvorak and Armia have 2 years to go.
Oct. 30, 2023 at 9:24 p.m.
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Of course I'd take that but he needs to at least start showing flashes of the player he used to be to get that kind of return.

My proposal isn't selling as low as you seem to think it is either. They'd actually be useful for 2-3 years on a rebuilding team. Their cap hits won't be an issue in fact they'll make it easy to remain over the floor while bringing in young players. Anderson and Dvorak are both gritty players, Dvorak can play center while Anderson has good speed is a pretty tough guy and a good fighter who can protect the younger/smaller players too. Armia isn't as gritty as those 2 but he's big enough he shouldn't be too easy to push around either. Counting this year Anderson has 4 years left on his contract while Dvorak and Armia have 2 years to go.


If I were Montreal I couldn’t turn this proposal down. You’re essentially giving Huberdeau away for free. He’ll come in and put up 90 points and fix the power play immediately in my opinion.

He realized he messed up when the season started is my guess. Half the team wants out, cancerous environment I bet. Probably doesn’t even want to show up to the rink. Nobody plays well in those circumstances and he also is thinking he has to play out the remainder of his career on a rebuilding team. That’s gotta be tough.
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