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Team: 2023-24 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 6, 2023
Published: Nov. 6, 2023
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  1. Blackwood, Mackenzie
  2. Smith, Givani
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Sharks suck real bad, might as well get more picks and having Campbell for 4 years won't hurt them long term, place holder until someone else becomes a clear starter.
Holloway gives them another Forward prospect, I think they have a decent D prospect pool
SJS
  1. Campbell, Jack
  2. Holloway, Dylan
  3. 2024 1st round pick (EDM)
  4. 2024 2nd round pick (EDM)
  5. 2026 2nd round pick (EDM)
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I'd say Holloway despite how he's been playing has about the value of Smith + Blackwood, maybe a more\less
Then it becomes dumping Campbell for a 1st and two 2nd rounders, about what LA paid to move Petersen
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Nov. 6, 2023 at 7:37 a.m.
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Soups contract is worse, I dont think you could move it
Nov. 6, 2023 at 7:41 a.m.
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Quoting: sharcuda22
Soups contract is worse, I dont think you could move it


If it was 2 1st round picks no 2nd's would that change the conversation or do you think his contract is that hopeless?
LA moved Petersen but, he had 2yrs left vs Campbell's 4yrs
Nov. 6, 2023 at 7:46 a.m.
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If it was 2 1st round picks no 2nd's would that change the conversation or do you think his contract is that hopeless?
LA moved Petersen but, he had 2yrs left vs Campbell's 4yrs


I think the cap going up helps but thats a 20 million dollar cap dump on an old and bad goalie. I think its hopeless for at least two years
Nov. 6, 2023 at 7:48 a.m.
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I think the cap going up helps but thats a 20 million dollar cap dump on an old and bad goalie. I think its hopeless for at least two years


Fair enough
Nov. 6, 2023 at 8:04 a.m.
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Poor San Jose will have 12-15 goals against a game now
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Nov. 6, 2023 at 8:12 a.m.
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The Oilers are better off just buying out Campbell, especially when there's no guarantee that Blackwood perform well in Edmonton. They are better off trying to put those assets into improving the defense rather than dumping Campbell. If they can add a goaltender on an expiring contract this year, that would probably be the move.
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Nov. 6, 2023 at 8:21 a.m.
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I don't see SJ taking on Campbell in any way shape or form. Grier has been making every move to fit a timeline of being a competitive team in 2-3 years while having most of our cap troubles eased in 2. This negates that plan by adding a 5 mil hump of uselessness. Holloway and the picks don't improve it much.

Grier is hoping to land a big fish in UFA in a couple years to bolster Will Smith, Celebrini/Eiserman/Levshunov, Musty and Bystedt. This complicates that plan. Don't see it happening.
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Nov. 6, 2023 at 9:55 a.m.
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Could happen but as Oleg said.
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I don't see SJ taking on Campbell in any way shape or form. Grier has been making every move to fit a timeline of being a competitive team in 2-3 years while having most of our cap troubles eased in 2. Don't see it happening.
The value seems fair though
Nov. 6, 2023 at 12:21 p.m.
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The Oilers are better off just buying out Campbell, especially when there's no guarantee that Blackwood perform well in Edmonton. They are better off trying to put those assets into improving the defense rather than dumping Campbell. If they can add a goaltender on an expiring contract this year, that would probably be the move.


You risk things continuing being bad and losing any chance of retooling for this year, that leaves you with 1yr to convince Draisaitl to stay and 2yrs with McDavid who might want out to get a better oppurtunity to win somewhere else. Boston, Minnesota, Buffalo etc are teams that in 1 to 2yrs time will have more well rounded rosters and cap space for one or both of those guys
Nov. 6, 2023 at 12:36 p.m.
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Quoting: Oleg
I don't see SJ taking on Campbell in any way shape or form. Grier has been making every move to fit a timeline of being a competitive team in 2-3 years while having most of our cap troubles eased in 2. This negates that plan by adding a 5 mil hump of uselessness. Holloway and the picks don't improve it much.

Grier is hoping to land a big fish in UFA in a couple years to bolster Will Smith, Celebrini/Eiserman/Levshunov, Musty and Bystedt. This complicates that plan. Don't see it happening.


San Jose isn't a UFA hot spot, they've acquired every notable player in franchise history through trade or the draft.
Unless I'm forgetting someone obvious, I was born in the 90's so my reference is Marleau, Thornton, Heatley, Burns, Vlasic, Nabokov, Pavelski, Hertl, Karlsson, Nolan, Boyle
Blake and Roenick signed but, they went there to retire in the sunshine
I'd take the picks and find a deal that suits the team's timeline and once Karlsson and Burns' retentions are done you can retain and trade Campbell in 2-3yrs if they can turn it around that fast but I have serious doubts
Nov. 6, 2023 at 1:37 p.m.
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You risk things continuing being bad and losing any chance of retooling for this year, that leaves you with 1yr to convince Draisaitl to stay and 2yrs with McDavid who might want out to get a better oppurtunity to win somewhere else. Boston, Minnesota, Buffalo etc are teams that in 1 to 2yrs time will have more well rounded rosters and cap space for one or both of those guys


The defense needs work which is why I think they should try to make a change there. Blackwood alone is probably not going to turn things around even if he plays well. If he doesn't play well, then well they are stuck with him for next year as well. I'm not saying for them not to try to add a goalie but someone with a one-year term but the primary goal should be working on that D some more. There's also the fact that the amount of assets given up here wouldn't even allow them to make significant trades in the future.
Nov. 6, 2023 at 1:44 p.m.
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Campbell’s deal wouldn’t take that much to move. He’s an easy buyout candidate if they can’t find someone to take him, but if they’re looking for a move it likely costs a 1st, Holloway (or prospect similar), and a 3rd/4th. They’re not gonna overspend to move him at this point.

LA didn’t pay to just move Petersen, they also dumped Walker as part of the deal which is why it cost more.
Nov. 6, 2023 at 10:34 p.m.
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Could happen but as Oleg said. The value seems fair though


No it doesn't. Campbell is one of not the worst contract in the league.
Nov. 6, 2023 at 10:41 p.m.
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San Jose isn't a UFA hot spot, they've acquired every notable player in franchise history through trade or the draft.
Unless I'm forgetting someone obvious, I was born in the 90's so my reference is Marleau, Thornton, Heatley, Burns, Vlasic, Nabokov, Pavelski, Hertl, Karlsson, Nolan, Boyle
Blake and Roenick signed but, they went there to retire in the sunshine
I'd take the picks and find a deal that suits the team's timeline and once Karlsson and Burns' retentions are done you can retain and trade Campbell in 2-3yrs if they can turn it around that fast but I have serious doubts


When they see one of the brighter young players in the league on the team in Will Smith, if they also get Celebrini they will have Smith, Celebrini, Hertl and Bystedt down the middle easily one of the best center cores in the league in a few years UFAs will be drooling over SJ. Very uneducated comment. But that's a common thread here.
Nov. 7, 2023 at 7:08 a.m.
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When they see one of the brighter young players in the league on the team in Will Smith, if they also get Celebrini they will have Smith, Celebrini, Hertl and Bystedt down the middle easily one of the best center cores in the league in a few years UFAs will be drooling over SJ. Very uneducated comment. But that's a common thread here.


Where players flocking to San Jose to play with Thornton, Pavelski and Couture.
Bro why are you throwing out insults when you're the one who is misinformed
Nov. 7, 2023 at 7:11 a.m.
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The defense needs work which is why I think they should try to make a change there. Blackwood alone is probably not going to turn things around even if he plays well. If he doesn't play well, then well they are stuck with him for next year as well. I'm not saying for them not to try to add a goalie but someone with a one-year term but the primary goal should be working on that D some more. There's also the fact that the amount of assets given up here wouldn't even allow them to make significant trades in the future.


It's a move to hopefully get better in the crease with Blackwood, who has 2 less years on his contract but, also to free up 2mil in cap space to make a move later.
Edmonton doesn't have a ton of assets but, that is an unfotunate circumstance created by two GMs who in hindsight where clearly past their primes and probably only should've been Assistant GMs
Nov. 7, 2023 at 7:29 a.m.
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It's a move to hopefully get better in the crease with Blackwood, who has 2 less years on his contract but, also to free up 2mil in cap space to make a move later.
Edmonton doesn't have a ton of assets but, that is an unfotunate circumstance created by two GMs who in hindsight where clearly past their primes and probably only should've been Assistant GMs


Holland isn't the same GM as he used to be but he brought the Oilers a far way along from what they were when Chialleri ran the show. The problem is the Oilers needed a goalie, and FA goalies tend not to work out. If Skinner can get out of his slump this year or next, then they should be fine. There's definitely a problem though with the Oilers' drafting and prospect development considering that they don't have much to show for Holland only trading a single, 1st round pick. The Nurse signing is highly questionable, I don't think there was a real threat of even losing him via FA if they offered him less. Holland should have been the President if anything and have someone else as the GM.
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