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If brad was stupid

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Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 7, 2023
Published: Nov. 7, 2023
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Nov. 7, 2023 at 4:56 p.m.
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Can’t wait for the first flames fan to say no enough lol
Nov. 7, 2023 at 5:09 p.m.
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Can’t wait for the first flames fan to say no enough lol

Not Enough

Knies isn’t worth Lindholm 50% retained and you have to pay a) for retention on Tanev and b) to dump Klingberg
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Nov. 7, 2023 at 5:20 p.m.
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Can’t wait for the first flames fan to say no enough lol


Cant wait for the first leafs fan to show their delusions again and tell me that an unproven rookie forward is worth a top tier centre lmao

Oh my bad you already did by making this horrific offer lol
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Nov. 7, 2023 at 5:23 p.m.
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They won't be able to re-sign Lindholm and might be able to re-sign Tanev. To give up Lilly alone for that makes no sense. Knies is the 6th guy on the roster that is untouchable right now.
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Nov. 7, 2023 at 5:24 p.m.
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Quoting: KingofRnR
Not Enough

Knies isn’t worth Lindholm 50% retained and you have to pay a) for retention on Tanev and b) to dump Klingberg


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Cant wait for the first leafs fan to show their delusions again and tell me that an unproven rookie forward is worth a top tier centre lmao

Oh my bad you already did by making this horrific offer lol


You two don’t have a clue leaf’s would never be stupid enough to offer this
Nov. 7, 2023 at 5:26 p.m.
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You two don’t have a clue leaf’s would never be stupid enough to offer this


I know it isn’t important but you don’t need the apostrophe on leafs.

Please try to explain how this offer is such a slamdunk for the Flames that the LEAFS would be dumb to offer it.

I’m listening
Nov. 7, 2023 at 5:27 p.m.
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I know it isn’t important but you don’t need the apostrophe on leafs.

Please try to explain how this offer is such a slamdunk for the Flames that the LEAFS would be dumb to offer it.

I’m listening


Because both players are vastly younger and Knies will be a stud he’s already doing really well this year actually has a shot at the Calder and lily is better then tanev next year guaranteed it’s definitely a no brainer leafs never offer it though
Nov. 7, 2023 at 5:34 p.m.
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Because both players are vastly younger and Knies will be a stud he’s already doing really well this year actually has a shot at the Calder and lily is better then tanev next year guaranteed it’s definitely a no brainer leafs never offer it though


Yup you are definitely a delusional leafs homer but I will humor you.

Lily is barely an NHL caliber defenceman and you are saying by next year he’s gonna be better than one of the best defensive defencemen in the league, delusional.

Knies is a fine young player but if you think hes worth anything close to a 50% retained Lindholm once again delusional.

Vastly younger doesn’t equal better, especially not for a team that has cup aspirations, either you want to win the cup or you want to play a 25 year long franchise mode, and clearly you want the latter.

The only proof you’ve given me is that your guys “will” be better based on zero evidence, zero proof, and zero metrics to back it up.

Clearly you are just a delusional leafs homer or a troll so please just take your garbage offers and bother a different team with them cause we aren’t selling our guys for that.
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Nov. 7, 2023 at 5:35 p.m.
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Yup you are definitely a delusional leafs homer but I will humor you.

Lily is barely an NHL caliber defenceman and you are saying by next year he’s gonna be better than one of the best defensive defencemen in the league, delusional.

Knies is a fine young player but if you think hes worth anything close to a 50% retained Lindholm once again delusional.

Vastly younger doesn’t equal better, especially not for a team that has cup aspirations, either you want to win the cup or you want to play a 25 year long franchise mode, and clearly you want the latter.

The only proof you’ve given me is that your guys “will” be better based on zero evidence, zero proof, and zero metrics to back it up.

Clearly you are just a delusional leafs homer or a troll so please just take your garbage offers and bother a different team with them cause we aren’t selling our guys for that.


Madness lol you don’t know a good deal if it hit you in the face lol
Nov. 7, 2023 at 5:37 p.m.
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Madness lol you don’t know a good deal if it hit you in the face lol


Yet again you say nothing more than “haha you guys dumb” as a rebuttal, just stop making offers to us seriously go play NHL 24 on easy mode if you want these horrible trades.
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Nov. 7, 2023 at 5:39 p.m.
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Yet again you say nothing more than “haha you guys dumb” as a rebuttal, just stop making offers to us seriously go play NHL 24 on easy mode if you want these horrible trades.


Don’t play chel just do me a favour and stop using this site your opinion has no value and you’re clearly wrong
Nov. 7, 2023 at 5:42 p.m.
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Don’t play chel just do me a favour and stop using this site your opinion has no value and you’re clearly wrong


Sure buddy you keep living in the leafs echo chamber where Tyler Bozak is a 1C and Rasmus Sandin is a top 2 dman 😂

Fans like you are the reason Leafs fans have such a bad reputation.
Nov. 7, 2023 at 5:42 p.m.
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Sure buddy you keep living in the leafs echo chamber where Tyler Bozak is a 1C and Rasmus Sandin is a top 2 dman 😂


Sandin is playing top 2 lol you’re so out of touch it’s painful
Nov. 7, 2023 at 5:46 p.m.
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Sandin is playing top 2 lol you’re so out of touch it’s painful


He’s actually on the 2nd pair for Washington who have been terrible so far this season, not to mention his incredible 1 point in 10 games 😂

Whos the one out of touch? Because all that took was a simple google search.
Nov. 7, 2023 at 6:01 p.m.
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Don’t play chel just do me a favour and stop using this site your opinion has no value and you’re clearly wrong

Relax, there’s no need to be hateful or intolerant simply because others don’t share your opinion and view point

You can’t have it both ways. You don’t get to have the cake and eat it too. He’s right and it’s something I’ve said before, do you want to win now, later or never, because that’s what it really comes down too

At some point, a contender says it’s time to push all the chips in here and go for it, so they Trade Young Futures for sure reliability to get them over the hump and hopefully all the way to the promised land, the holy grail, the Stanley Cup

If you want quality players, you’re going to have to offer and give something up. It’s really that simple. Offering a bunch of garbage and quantity isn’t going to work and we keep telling you that the Picks/Players/Prospects being offered are either or no value or interest or will easily get beat by another team
Nov. 7, 2023 at 6:07 p.m.
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Relax, there’s no need to be hateful or intolerant simply because others don’t share your opinion and view point

You can’t have it both ways. You don’t get to have the cake and eat it too. He’s right and it’s something I’ve said before, do you want to win now, later or never, because that’s what it really comes down too

At some point, a contender says it’s time to push all the chips in here and go for it, so they Trade Young Futures for sure reliability to get them over the hump and hopefully all the way to the promised land, the holy grail, the Stanley Cup

If you want quality players, you’re going to have to offer and give something up. It’s really that simple. Offering a bunch of garbage and quantity isn’t going to work and we keep telling you that the Picks/Players/Prospects being offered are either or no value or interest or will easily get beat by another team


Klingberg is the only piece in this trade that’s not a stud
Nov. 7, 2023 at 6:13 p.m.
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Klingberg is the only piece in this trade that’s not a stud

Listen, I know you’re frustrated that we’re challenging you and you’re unhappy we won’t just accept your proposals because you really want our proven, consistent and more reliable players, but we’ll get more & better offers selling them separately and/or to other Teams

We don’t want the additional work, risk and hassle of having to unload your mistakes either
Nov. 7, 2023 at 6:14 p.m.
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Listen, I know you’re frustrated that we’re challenging you and you’re unhappy we won’t just accept your proposals because you really want our proven, consistent and more reliable players, but we’ll get more & better offers selling them separately and/or to other Teams


That deal gets done all day long the only problem is leaf’s never offer it
Nov. 7, 2023 at 6:21 p.m.
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That deal gets done all day long the only problem is leaf’s never offer it

So what happens if/when you’re wrong!? Will you hold yourself accountable and face the music or will you duck & hide and leave the site for awhile!?

I don’t think you really know or understand how dumb Treliving actually is or can be sometimes. Look at what he did to the Flames 🤦‍♂️ He Traded away a nice Future for us and for what!? 1.3 seasons of Toffoli and so we could sign Kadri long-term??? That cost us Two (2x) 1sts + a Quality Prospect + other Picks
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Nov. 7, 2023 at 6:24 p.m.
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So what happens if/when you’re wrong!? Will you hold yourself accountable and face the music or will you duck & hide and leave the site for awhile!?

I don’t think you really know or understand how dumb Treliving actually is or can be sometimes. Look at what he did to the Flames 🤦‍♂️ He Traded away a nice Future for us and for what!? 1.3 seasons of Toffoli and so we could sign Kadri long-term??? That cost us Two (2x) 1sts + a Quality Prospect + other Picks


It’s never gonna happen anyways cause either Toronto or Calgary will say no and that’s fine but there’s no way I can be proven wrong and that’s a great point about brad I guess I just hope he’s learned his lessons
 
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