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Created by: Kinger25
Team: 2023-24 Calgary Flames
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 16, 2023
Published: Nov. 16, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
CGY
  1. Abruzzese, Nick
  2. Klingberg, John
  3. Niemelä, Topi
  4. 2024 1st round pick (TOR)
  5. 2024 3rd round pick (NYI)
  6. 2024 5th round pick (VAN)
  7. 2026 3rd round pick (TOR)
TOR
  1. Tanev, Christopher ($2,250,000 retained)
  2. Zadorov, Nikita
Additional Details:
They get a 3rd team to retain on zadorov
2.
CGY
  1. DeBrusk, Jake
  2. 2025 1st round pick (BOS)
BOS
  1. Lindholm, Elias
  2. 2024 3rd round pick (CGY)
  3. 2024 3rd round pick (NYI)
3.
CGY
  1. Smith, Brendan
  2. 2024 1st round pick (NJD)
  3. 2025 2nd round pick (NJD)
NJD
  1. Hanifin, Noah ($2,475,000 retained)
  2. 2024 4th round pick (CGY)
4.
CGY
  1. 2025 3rd round pick (PIT)
  2. 2026 3rd round pick (SJS)
Additional Details:
Any team that needs a goalie
PIT
  1. Vladar, Daniel ($1,100,000 retained)
  2. 2024 5th round pick (VAN)
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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Logo of the CGY
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2025
Logo of the FLA
Logo of the BOS
Logo of the CGY
Logo of the NJD
Logo of the CGY
Logo of the PIT
Logo of the CGY
Logo of the CGY
Logo of the CGY
2026
Logo of the CGY
Logo of the CGY
Logo of the CGY
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the SJS
Logo of the CGY
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,500,000$77,926,666$0$227,500$5,573,334
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$10,500,000$10,500,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 8
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$7,000,000$7,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$5,800,000$5,800,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$3,100,000$3,100,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$5,350,000$5,350,000
C
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$4,000,000$4,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LW, C
RFA - 2
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$2,300,000$2,300,000
LW, RW, C
RFA - 1
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$4,900,000$4,900,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$762,500$762,500
LW, C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$775,000$775,000
LW, C
RFA - 2
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$825,000$825,000
RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$775,000$775,000
RW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$762,500$762,500
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$6,250,000$6,250,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 8
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$4,550,000$4,550,000
RD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$6,000,000$6,000,000
G
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$1,100,000$1,100,000
LD/RD, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$4,150,000$4,150,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$813,333$813,333 (Performance Bonus$15,000$15K)
G
RFA - 1
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$762,500$762,500
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$762,500$762,500
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$2,500,000$2,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$1,300,000$1,300,000
C
UFA - 1
Taxi Squad
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$856,667$856,667 ($0$0$0$0)
RD
RFA - 2

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Nov. 16, 2023 at 2:04 p.m.
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That first goes to the Sharks if they make ECF so your clearly banking on them to no make it.
Nov. 16, 2023 at 5:16 p.m.
#27
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Quoting: Haymaker26
Ignoring the giant "Stop sending Vladar to Pittsburgh" argument, I don't think Calgary can get 2 3rds back for him, even with retention.
Per Evolving-Hockey, his -4.59 GSAx so far this season is 6th worst in the league and his .858 SV% is 4th worst, and his stats last season weren't much better.
Considering his poor results in Calgary and Wolf either NHL ready or very close to it, I don't think Vladar has much value right now.


I am in agreement here and I have no horse in this race but Vladar is the type of player who is a throw-in to make the numbers work. The best offer for him last year would probably have been what a conditional 5th that could maybe turn into a 4th? With his play right now and teams throughout the league with cap crunches, he is maybe worth a 6th or 7th.
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Nov. 16, 2023 at 10:16 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
I am not telling you to dismiss stats at all. I am fully aware what they look like I am just confident from seeing him play that there is more to the story. At least there was last season.

I don't think God is a fair example at all, there is no footage of God so there isn't an option to analyze proof or not. With Vladar's goaltending there is an option to view and analyze his past games. I am not the one who wants to argue this. You are welcome to your own opinion here.

You say you have viewed his play but are we talking about any relevant amount of sample size or just tuning in here and there?

Don’t waste your time Ledge, I did this already with him and it’s him who has a made pre-determination that Vladar sucks and is closed minded to anything of the contrary

He’s comparing a Goalie to a Forward when it comes to expected Development based on Age. I made a Trade sending Vladar to PIT when Nedj and Jarry were both out, thinking they might not want to rely on Hellberg, but he’s been fine and it was a lateral move. injured Nedj for Vladar + 4th/5th Pick I think, which would have provided them a Healthy Goalie and CGY with an Opening for Wolf and the necessary Cap Space to carry all 3 if we wanted

@Mr_Gardoki. You nor any Pen’s Fans have nothing to whine and/or complain about until you get 300+ Posts a day for Tanev & Zadorov to fill their Team’s 1RD and 2LD positions, only to be told CGY needs a rebuild and that Tanev & Zadorov are either old & washed or nothing more than 3rd Pairing/7th Dmen AT BEST.

A Trade proposal of Vladar to PIT pales in comparison
Nov. 16, 2023 at 10:27 p.m.
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Quoting: KingofRnR
Don’t waste your time Ledge, I did this already with him and it’s him who has a made pre-determination that Vladar sucks and is closed minded to anything of the contrary

He’s comparing a Goalie to a Forward when it comes to expected Development based on Age. I made a Trade sending Vladar to PIT when Nedj and Jarry were both out, thinking they might not want to rely on Hellberg, but he’s been fine and it was a lateral move. injured Nedj for Vladar + 4th/5th Pick I think, which would have provided them a Healthy Goalie and CGY with an Opening for Wolf and the necessary Cap Space to carry all 3 if we wanted

Mr_Gardoki. You nor any Pen’s Fans have nothing to whine and/or complain about until you get 300+ Posts a day for Tanev & Zadorov to fill their Team’s 1RD and 2LD positions, only to be told CGY needs a rebuild and that Tanev & Zadorov are either old & washed or nothing more than 3rd Pairing/7th Dmen AT BEST.

A Trade proposal of Vladar to PIT pales in comparison


Look, I have a personal troll!

First off, you know NOTHING, Jon Snow. We dealt with over a year of Morgan Reilly in EVERY SINGLE Leafs AGM telling us we'll trade whoever we have to in order to make it room when we had FIVE LHD's under contract, not to mention trading them every single draft pick we had, then another two years of Leafs trading Kerfoot to us for everything from multiple firsts to giving him away, so don't you DARE tell us we have no idea.

And did you say I compared a goalie to a forward? You're saying Mackenzie Blackwood is a forward? Oh boy. Somebody want to tell him?

I'm happy you found another comrade who denounces all NHL goalie stats for "Trust me bro," but you're both still wrong.
Nov. 16, 2023 at 10:38 p.m.
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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
Look, I have a personal troll!

First off, you know NOTHING, Jon Snow. We dealt with over a year of Morgan Reilly in EVERY SINGLE Leafs AGM telling us we'll trade whoever we have to in order to make it room when we had FIVE LHD's under contract, not to mention trading them every single draft pick we had, then another two years of Leafs trading Kerfoot to us for everything from multiple firsts to giving him away, so don't you DARE tell us we have no idea.

And did you say I compared a goalie to a forward? You're saying Mackenzie Blackwood is a forward? Oh boy. Somebody want to tell him?

I'm happy you found another comrade who denounces all NHL goalie stats for "Trust me bro," but you're both still wrong.

Uh Oh, Somebody’s triggered lol. You even have the FULL CAPS going lol 😂

Yes, I forgot, if anybody doesn’t bow down or agree with you, they’re wrong and you need to tell them so and tell everyone just how much smarter and more knowledgeable about hockey you are, because you review their underlying stats and have the entire game and business side of hockey figured out

What are you doing here bud!? Why not go get paid for writing and sharing your infinite knowledge and wisdom!? Why continue to waste you time here with us idiots!?

Ledge is very knowledgeable and not just about The Flames either, but even he doesn’t know everything or grab his megaphone and LET EVERYONE KNOW

I told you this already, only extremely weak & insecure children feel the need to throw tantrums and let everyone know they’re right and everyone else is wrong. Grow up already lol
Nov. 16, 2023 at 10:52 p.m.
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Quoting: KingofRnR
Uh Oh, Somebody’s triggered lol. You even have the FULL CAPS going lol 😂

Yes, I forgot, if anybody doesn’t bow down or agree with you, they’re wrong and you need to tell them so and tell everyone just how much smarter and more knowledgeable about hockey you are, because you review their underlying stats and have the entire game and business side of hockey figured out

What are you doing here bud!? Why not go get paid for writing and sharing your infinite knowledge and wisdom!? Why continue to waste you time here with us idiots!?

Ledge is very knowledgeable and not just about The Flames either, but even he doesn’t know everything or grab his megaphone and LET EVERYONE KNOW

I told you this already, only extremely weak & insecure children feel the need to throw tantrums and let everyone know they’re right and everyone else is wrong. Grow up already lol


I'm sorry that I rely more on facts than "trust me bro." Weird, I know.

I also have no problem admitting I'm wrong or even simply disagreeing, but when "trust me bro" is the rationale? No, I don't accept that.
Nov. 16, 2023 at 11:03 p.m.
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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
Look, I have a personal troll!

First off, you know NOTHING, Jon Snow. We dealt with over a year of Morgan Reilly in EVERY SINGLE Leafs AGM telling us we'll trade whoever we have to in order to make it room when we had FIVE LHD's under contract, not to mention trading them every single draft pick we had, then another two years of Leafs trading Kerfoot to us for everything from multiple firsts to giving him away, so don't you DARE tell us we have no idea.

And did you say I compared a goalie to a forward? You're saying Mackenzie Blackwood is a forward? Oh boy. Somebody want to tell him?

I'm happy you found another comrade who denounces all NHL goalie stats for "Trust me bro," but you're both still wrong.


I don't get why this is still going on I never wanted to have this argument from the beginning
Nov. 16, 2023 at 11:03 p.m.
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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
I'm sorry that I rely more on facts than "trust me bro." Weird, I know.

I also have no problem admitting I'm wrong or even simply disagreeing, but when "trust me bro" is the rationale? No, I don't accept that.

You need a Time-Out... “Trust Me Bro!” “Accept It Bro” 😎
Nov. 17, 2023 at 1:50 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
I don't get why this is still going on I never wanted to have this argument from the beginning


Your buddy restarted it. He has a jones for me. I left it alone as did you.
Nov. 30, 2023 at 6:47 p.m.
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Well this aged well! lol
 
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