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Stars Experiment

Created by: Dr_Invictus
Team: 2023-24 Dallas Stars
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 16, 2023
Published: Nov. 16, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Accurate/Prorated
LTIR Enabled: No
Season Days: 192
Days Remaining: 154
Season Remaining: 80%
Projected Cap Hit Prior To Days Remaining Tooltip : $83,042,829
Description
Interested to see which fan base objects more: Oilers or Stars? You have to admit that top line is deadly.

The Flames trade was to bolster the D core with Heiskanen's departure.
Trades
1.
DAL
  1. Bourgault, Xavier
  2. Draisaitl, Leon
Additional Details:
Only an 80k difference in cap...shocking
2.
DAL
  1. Hanifin, Noah ($2,400,000 retained)
  2. Zadorov, Nikita
Additional Details:
Hanifin helps (somewhat) replace the void left by Heiskanen and Zadorov helps bolster their RD for a cup run
CGY
  1. Bourque, Mavrik
  2. Dellandrea, Ty
  3. Hakanpää, Jani
  4. Kyrou, Christian
  5. Marchment, Mason
  6. 2024 1st round pick (DAL)
  7. 2026 2nd round pick (DAL)
Additional Details:
Calgary takes on Marchment and Hakanpaa to satisfy the cap requirements here. Effectively, the deal broken down as:
Bourque, Dellandrea, and a 1st for Hanifin.
Kyrou and a second for Zadorov, and the retention.
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,500,000$83,279,444$372,829$3,820,000$220,556
Prorated Cap Hit

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$8,500,000$6,817,708
C, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Dallas Stars
$8,450,000$6,777,604
C
UFA - 8
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$7,750,000$6,216,146
LW, RW
RFA - 3
Logo of the Dallas Stars
$9,500,000$7,619,792
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Dallas Stars
$9,850,000$7,900,521
C, RW
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Dallas Stars
$3,500,000$2,807,292 (Performance Bonus$2,000,000$2M)
RW
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Dallas Stars
$850,000$681,771
C, LW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Dallas Stars
$814,167$653,030 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
C
RFA - 3
Logo of the Dallas Stars
$3,000,000$2,406,250
RW, C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Dallas Stars
$2,250,000$1,804,688
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Dallas Stars
$3,250,000$2,606,771
C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$925,000$741,927 (Performance Bonus$250,000$250K)
RW
RFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$2,550,000$2,045,313
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Dallas Stars
$925,000$741,927 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Dallas Stars
$4,000,000$3,208,333
G
RFA - 2
Logo of the Dallas Stars
$5,800,000$4,652,083
LD
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$3,750,000$3,007,813
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Dallas Stars
$1,000,000$802,083
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Dallas Stars
$863,333$692,465 (Performance Bonus$637,500$638K)
LD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Dallas Stars
$787,500$631,641
LD/RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Dallas Stars
$1,000,000$802,083
RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Dallas Stars
$3,650,000$2,927,604
LD
NMC
UFA - 2

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Nov. 16, 2023 at 3:16 p.m.
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No chance edmonton does that Dallas would have to add if you wanna acquire the 2nd best player in the world
Nov. 16, 2023 at 3:21 p.m.
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No chance Edmonton does that Dallas would have to add if you wanna acquire the 2nd best player in the world


I dunnno, this seems pretty fair. Wyatt Johnston is (or will be) a Top line center on most teams, and Heiskanen is one of the best D men in the league. It gives Edmonton cost certainty and they don't need to worry about resigning Draisaitl.

I agree though, he is the 2nd best player
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Nov. 16, 2023 at 3:34 p.m.
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Not directed at you specifically, but I find that Miro's value is so underated around these parts.
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Nov. 16, 2023 at 4:08 p.m.
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ooooo I kinda like this one but,

Stars probably reject based on fit, no team has ever traded their no.1 d-man and then turned right around to go on to win a cup.

Edmonton probably rejects too based on value but it's a lot closer than most fans think, they might actually accept it in all honesty it would be 50/50
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Nov. 16, 2023 at 4:17 p.m.
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I want Gourde back
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Don't think Dallas would or should do this. Usually it's not the smartest to trade your top defenseman and continue to try and win. Plus Heiskanen has a great contract and they may only get Draisaitl for 18 months
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Nov. 16, 2023 at 4:18 p.m.
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I want Gourde back
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Also that seems like a real big overpay for Hanifin
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Nov. 16, 2023 at 5:15 p.m.
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Not directed at you specifically, but I find that Miro's value is so underated around these parts.


I agree. I considered a trade with Lindell, but it was harder to make the cap work in the trade. This was just simple.
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Nov. 16, 2023 at 5:20 p.m.
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Don't think Dallas would or should do this. Usually it's not the smartest to trade your top defenseman and continue to try and win. Plus Heiskanen has a great contract and they may only get Draisaitl for 18 months


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Also that seems like a real big overpay for Hanifin


I think he would happily resign in Dallas. Imagine spending the best years of your life in Edmonton and being filthy rich... Most places would seem a lot better.

The Flames trade was to fill the hole in the d core. I left Stankoven out of the deal intentionally but I think the stars would accept if they made the Edmonton trade. There isn't a ton of D available outside of Calgary, let alone a 26 year old top pairing defenseman. I agree it wouldn't happen if miro didn't leave.
Nov. 17, 2023 at 9:41 a.m.
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I'd rather trade Robertson and Stankoven than Heiskanen and Johnston.

Regardless. No.
Nov. 17, 2023 at 10:24 a.m.
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I'd rather trade Robertson and Stankoven than Heiskanen and Johnston.

Regardless. No.


He's the 2nd best player in the world. Just google the phrase "nhl players with most points last 5 years"

If a trade doesn't make you feel uncomfortable, then it isn't realistic
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Nov. 17, 2023 at 10:51 a.m.
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He's the 2nd best player in the world. Just google the phrase "nhl players with most points last 5 years"

If a trade doesn't make you feel uncomfortable, then it isn't realistic


Miro is probably a Top 5 D in the world. That is, if you are not looking only at goals and points. Miro also, does not have the luxury of playing on his strong side and with a partner of the quality of Toews.

In other words and IMO, this trade proposal favors Edmonton.
Nov. 17, 2023 at 1:50 p.m.
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Quoting: Phleb2
Miro is probably a Top 5 D in the world. That is, if you are not looking only at goals and points. Miro also, does not have the luxury of playing on his strong side and with a partner of the quality of Toews.

In other words and IMO, this trade proposal favors Edmonton.


You'll get no argument from me that Miro is a stellar defenseman. However, it doesn't make the trade unfair. Draisaitl is, after all, the 2nd best player in the world right now, and not past his prime. IF cap wasn't a consideration (or NMC) I would say that a more complex deal to be had.

This was the simplest option though, and the Calgary deal was merely a way to bolster the d core after the trade.
Nov. 17, 2023 at 2:13 p.m.
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Quoting: Dr_Invictus
He's the 2nd best player in the world. Just google the phrase "nhl players with most points last 5 years"

If a trade doesn't make you feel uncomfortable, then it isn't realistic


I like the trade idea, don't think either team would do it but is a really interesting idea.

Mostly commenting to say "If a trade doesn't make you feel uncomfortable, then it isn't realistic" is an amazing saying.
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Nov. 17, 2023 at 3:44 p.m.
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Quoting: PurpleHippo
I like the trade idea, don't think either team would do it but is a really interesting idea.

Mostly commenting to say "If a trade doesn't make you feel uncomfortable, then it isn't realistic" is an amazing saying.


Yeah, I would love to take credit for it, but it was another guy on here that said it to me when we were discussing a trade for Konecny.
Nov. 17, 2023 at 3:47 p.m.
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You'll get no argument from me that Miro is a stellar defenseman. However, it doesn't make the trade unfair. Draisaitl is, after all, the 2nd best player in the world right now, and not past his prime. IF cap wasn't a consideration (or NMC) I would say that a more complex deal to be had.

This was the simplest option though, and the Calgary deal was merely a way to bolster the d core after the trade.


The trade is unfair when you include Johnston for Bourgeault.
Nov. 17, 2023 at 3:55 p.m.
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Quoting: Phleb2
The trade is unfair when you include Johnston for Bourgeault.


Johnston is definitely better than Bourgault. However, Draisaitl is worth more than Heiskanen. I had thought about Bouchard, but that leaves the issue of cap space, which means Dallas has to send something back as well. Lindell's NMC was also a reason for not structuring the deal around him. It would have been easier if he didn't have it.
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Nov. 17, 2023 at 4:40 p.m.
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Johnston is definitely better than Bourgault. However, Draisaitl is worth more than Heiskanen. I had thought about Bouchard, but that leaves the issue of cap space, which means Dallas has to send something back as well. Lindell's NMC was also a reason for not structuring the deal around him. It would have been easier if he didn't have it.


I disagree and I would never pull the trigger on that trade, but it’s not the end of the world.
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