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If Chytil is shut down for the year

Created by: Rags21
Team: 2023-24 New York Rangers
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 17, 2023
Published: Nov. 17, 2023
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Description
Obvious this is worst case scenario, but it would force Drury to go for a 3C at the deadline

Let me know if the values are way off
Trades
1.
NYR
  1. Henrique, Adam ($1,000,000 retained)
ANA
  1. 2024 2nd round pick (NYR)
  2. 2024 5th round pick (NYR)
Additional Details:
Conditional 2nd. Turns into 1st if NYR make ECF
2.
NYR
  1. Monahan, Sean
Additional Details:
A bit risky given his health recently
MTL
    Conditional 2nd. Turns into 1st if NYR make ECF
    3.
    NYR
    1. Johnson, Tyler ($2,500,000 retained)
    2. Raddysh, Taylor
    CHI
      Conditional 2nd. Turns into 1st if NYR make ECF
      4.
      NYR
      1. Wennberg, Alexander ($1,000,000 retained)
      SEA
        Conditional 2nd. Turns into 1st if NYR make ECF
        5.
        NYR
        1. Lindholm, Elias ($1,000,000 retained)
        CGY
          Conditional 2nd. Turns into 1st if NYR make ECF. (Wishful thinking)
          6.
          NSH
            Conditional 2nd. Turns into 1st if NYR make ECF
            Buyouts
            DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
            2024
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            2025
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            2026
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            29$83,500,000$91,686,999$610,892$897,500-$8,186,999
            Left WingCentreRight Wing
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            $6,500,000$6,500,000
            LW
            NMC
            UFA - 4
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            $8,500,000$8,500,000
            C
            NMC
            UFA - 7
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            $2,100,000$2,100,000
            RW
            RFA - 1
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            $11,642,857$11,642,857
            LW
            NMC
            UFA - 3
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            $5,625,000$5,625,000
            C, RW
            NMC
            UFA - 6
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            $2,325,000$2,325,000
            LW, RW
            RFA - 2
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            $828,333$828,333 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
            LW
            RFA - 2
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            $456,250$456,250
            LW, C
            M-NTC
            UFA - 1
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            $800,000$800,000 (Performance Bonus$300,000$300K)
            RW
            NTC
            UFA - 1
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            $3,641,667$3,641,667
            C, LW
            M-NTC
            UFA - 4
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            $800,000$800,000
            C, LW
            UFA - 1
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            $800,000$800,000
            RW, LW
            UFA - 2
            Logo of the Nashville Predators
            $1,700,000$1,700,000
            LW, C
            UFA - 1
            Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
            $1,985,000$1,985,000 (Performance Bonus$15,000$15K)
            C, LW, RW
            UFA - 1
            Logo of the New York Rangers
            $787,500$787,500
            RW
            UFA - 1
            Logo of the Seattle Kraken
            $1,250,000$1,250,000
            C
            M-NTC
            UFA - 1
            Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
            $2,500,000$2,500,000
            RW, C, LW
            M-NTC
            UFA - 1
            Logo of the Calgary Flames
            $3,850,000$3,850,000
            C, RW
            UFA - 1
            Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
            $758,333$758,333
            RW
            RFA - 1
            Logo of the Nashville Predators
            $800,000$800,000
            C
            UFA - 1
            Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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            $3,000,000$3,000,000
            LD
            RFA - 1
            Logo of the New York Rangers
            $9,500,000$9,500,000
            RD
            UFA - 6
            Logo of the New York Rangers
            $5,666,667$5,666,667
            G
            M-NTC
            UFA - 2
            Logo of the New York Rangers
            $3,872,000$3,872,000
            LD
            RFA - 2
            Logo of the New York Rangers
            $8,000,000$8,000,000
            RD
            NMC
            UFA - 3
            Logo of the New York Rangers
            $825,000$825,000 (Performance Bonus$100,000$100K)
            G
            M-NTC
            UFA - 1
            Logo of the New York Rangers
            $825,000$825,000
            LD
            UFA - 1
            Logo of the New York Rangers
            $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
            RD
            RFA - 1
            ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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            $812,500$812,500
            LD
            RFA - 2
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            $4,437,500$4,437,500
            C, LW
            UFA - 4

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            Nov. 17, 2023 at 11:39 a.m.
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            Values are off. Lindholm gets a 1st+, and Trotz might be asking pretty high for Novak considering his contract and production
            Nov. 17, 2023 at 11:41 a.m.
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            MTL decline for that return. If we don’t get the wanted price for Monahan, he signs a 3-5 year deal with us, simple as that
            Nov. 17, 2023 at 11:48 a.m.
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            Quoting: Ennis
            Values are off. Lindholm gets a 1st+, and Trotz might be asking pretty high for Novak considering his contract and production


            Some of the trades are more unlikely or wishful thinking
            Nov. 17, 2023 at 11:49 a.m.
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            Quoting: Caufield
            MTL decline for that return. If we don’t get the wanted price for Monahan, he signs a 3-5 year deal with us, simple as that


            I mean i don’t know what you expect for a guy who’s doing well now but has a history of injuries lol. Ain’t gonna get two 1st because I know how delusional Habs fans are
            Nov. 17, 2023 at 11:54 a.m.
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            Right around the range we're asking for Henrique (if the picks going to be conditional though, we can ramp the retention up to 50%.

            We can do it once Lundestrom is back.
            Nov. 17, 2023 at 11:57 a.m.
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            The quality of those players vary, so some are definitely way off.

            -Lindholm is definitely worth more as a rental, you probably have to look at something like the Horvat trade as a starting point.
            -Novak is definitely worth more at his age and how he's performed in the NHL. Not as much as Lindholm because of track record, but definitely a 1st+.
            -If Monahan is healthy at the deadline, he's definitely worth more. If he's not healthy, the Rangers wouldn't want him.
            -Henrique is close given the NTC protection, but I tend to think he'd be worth a bit more too (or rather the Ducks could get more by retaining more).
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            Nov. 17, 2023 at 12:09 p.m.
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            Quoting: Rags21
            I mean i don’t know what you expect for a guy who’s doing well now but has a history of injuries lol. Ain’t gonna get two 1st because I know how delusional Habs fans are


            I get he is risky for injuries, but when he's not, he's a very good 2C, and I really think MTL wants to keep him.
            Nov. 17, 2023 at 12:26 p.m.
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            Quoting: GiggywithGibby
            Right around the range we're asking for Henrique (if the picks going to be conditional though, we can ramp the retention up to 50%.

            We can do it once Lundestrom is back.


            Could be needed if they want to add other depth pieces as well
            Nov. 17, 2023 at 12:35 p.m.
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            Quoting: Rags21
            I mean i don’t know what you expect for a guy who’s doing well now but has a history of injuries lol. Ain’t gonna get two 1st because I know how delusional Habs fans are


            For reference, it was primarily his hips. He needed surgery and got one done at a time. That lengthened the duration and caused complications as the hips were then unbalanced. He does appear to be fully recovered from that now, and it was his main issue.
            Last year was a fluke foot injury that he tried to play through which again made it more complicated and lengthened the recovery process.
            I'm less concerned with him suffering significant injuries moving forward, but understand some reticence and even pick conditions as insurance.
            Other way around though and only based on his ability to play. A 1st as long as he is healthy, not a 2nd unless the team reaches X round.
            Nov. 17, 2023 at 12:37 p.m.
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            Quoting: GiggywithGibby
            Right around the range we're asking for Henrique (if the picks going to be conditional though, we can ramp the retention up to 50%.

            We can do it once Lundestrom is back.


            I’d do it now if they offered it honestly

            I really like how BOG is playing, I’d throw him at 3C
            Nov. 17, 2023 at 12:42 p.m.
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            Quoting: ricochetii
            For reference, it was primarily his hips. He needed surgery and got one done at a time. That lengthened the duration and caused complications as the hips were then unbalanced. He does appear to be fully recovered from that now, and it was his main issue.
            Last year was a fluke foot injury that he tried to play through which again made it more complicated and lengthened the recovery process.
            I'm less concerned with him suffering significant injuries moving forward, but understand some reticence and even pick conditions as insurance.
            Other way around though and only based on his ability to play. A 1st as long as he is healthy, not a 2nd unless the team reaches X round.


            Hip surgeries as a hockey player as never good. Rangers need a sure thing especially if chytil trends the wrong way. Rangers would be screwed if they give up a lot for Monahan and then him and chytil are both hurt
            Nov. 17, 2023 at 12:47 p.m.
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            Quoting: GeneralLandro
            I’d do it now if they offered it honestly

            I really like how BOG is playing, I’d throw him at 3C


            Right now only Fox is on LTIR and as long as they don’t call anyone up, they’ll accrue around $2.5m by TDL

            The real question mark is chytil who has had like 3 concussions in like 1.5 years. The trades only make sense if :
            1) the center is a $2.5m which they fit
            2) Chytil on LTIR and maybe comes back at playoffs
            Nov. 17, 2023 at 12:47 p.m.
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            Imo you have a wide range of players here and the same value for all of them
            Nov. 17, 2023 at 12:49 p.m.
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            Quoting: NYRxLundqvist
            Imo you have a wide range of players here and the same value for all of them


            Yea I know haha. The base of the trade would be Conditional 2nd and 4th. Obviously NYR add more based on the player. But they shouldn’t spend a lot just to fill 3C
            Nov. 17, 2023 at 12:51 p.m.
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            Quoting: Rags21
            Yea I know haha. The base of the trade would be Conditional 2nd and 4th. Obviously NYR add more based on the player. But they shouldn’t spend a lot just to fill 3C


            I think someone like henrique is a good option. Someone with a good defensive game
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            Nov. 17, 2023 at 12:58 p.m.
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            Another good option for cheap could be sturm
            Nov. 17, 2023 at 1:01 p.m.
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            Quoting: NYRxLundqvist
            Another good option for cheap could be sturm


            Is he a 3C though? I’d feel like I’d rather him on the 4th line
            Nov. 17, 2023 at 1:01 p.m.
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            Tyler Johnson half retained probably goes for a 2nd or a 3rd, depending on his offensive production. Unless Raddysh falls off a cliff this season, no chance Hawks give up both players for just a 2nd.
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            Nov. 17, 2023 at 1:07 p.m.
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            Quoting: Burnout
            The quality of those players vary, so some are definitely way off.

            -Lindholm is definitely worth more as a rental, you probably have to look at something like the Horvat trade as a starting point.
            -Novak is definitely worth more at his age and how he's performed in the NHL. Not as much as Lindholm because of track record, but definitely a 1st+.
            -If Monahan is healthy at the deadline, he's definitely worth more. If he's not healthy, the Rangers wouldn't want him.
            -Henrique is close given the NTC protection, but I tend to think he'd be worth a bit more too (or rather the Ducks could get more by retaining more).


            Well for all these trades, the base is the conditional 2nd and 4th. Obviously different variables play a role is how much more the NYR add. But in this scenario they’re adding a 3C, so I’d hope they’re not overpaying for a bottom 6 center
            Nov. 17, 2023 at 1:19 p.m.
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            This is "big" condition, going from 2nd (#50-55 range) to 1st #28-32 for winning 2 series half a year away. Can NHL picks even be conditioned ?
            Nov. 17, 2023 at 1:22 p.m.
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            Quoting: Czu8iks
            This is "big" condition, going from 2nd (#50-55 range) to 1st #28-32 for winning 2 series half a year away. Can NHL picks even be conditioned ?


            NYR conditioned the past two of their 2nd round picks at the TDL so I’m pretty sure. Unless NHL recently changed the rules
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            Nov. 17, 2023 at 1:32 p.m.
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            Quoting: Rags21
            Well for all these trades, the base is the conditional 2nd and 4th. Obviously different variables play a role is how much more the NYR add. But in this scenario they’re adding a 3C, so I’d hope they’re not overpaying for a bottom 6 center


            That's fine, but (at least) half of those guys aren't bottom 6 centers. They may even play as a bottom 6 center on the Rangers. If the Rangers want that kind of flexibility then they have to pay for it. Or just trade for a center that can't offer that kind of flexibility.
            Nov. 17, 2023 at 1:35 p.m.
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            This is such an easy pass for Montreal
            Nov. 17, 2023 at 1:41 p.m.
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            Quoting: Rags21
            Right now only Fox is on LTIR and as long as they don’t call anyone up, they’ll accrue around $2.5m by TDL

            The real question mark is chytil who has had like 3 concussions in like 1.5 years. The trades only make sense if :
            1) the center is a $2.5m which they fit
            2) Chytil on LTIR and maybe comes back at playoffs


            Rico at 50% is $2,912,500
            Nov. 17, 2023 at 1:44 p.m.
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            Quoting: Burnout
            That's fine, but (at least) half of those guys aren't bottom 6 centers. They may even play as a bottom 6 center on the Rangers. If the Rangers want that kind of flexibility then they have to pay for it. Or just trade for a center that can't offer that kind of flexibility.


            Monahan, Novak and Henrique are or were 3C with their team. Also need to except powerplay points because whoever is acquired won’t be on the Rangers PP1
             
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