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Created by: Flames1217
Team: 2023-24 Calgary Flames
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 18, 2023
Published: Nov. 18, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
CGY
  1. Lambert, Brad
  2. Schmidt, Nate
  3. 2024 1st round pick (WPG)
  4. 2024 3rd round pick (WPG)
WPG
  1. Lindholm, Elias ($2,425,000 retained)
2.
CGY
  1. Bourque, Mavrik
  2. Faksa, Radek
  3. 2024 1st round pick (DAL)
3.
CGY
  1. Smith, Brendan
  2. 2024 3rd round pick (NJD)
  3. 2024 5th round pick (NJD)
NJD
  1. Zadorov, Nikita ($1,380,000 retained)
4.
CGY
  1. Gibson, Andrew [Reserve List]
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (DET)
5.
CGY
  1. Klimovich, Danila
  2. Myers, Tyler
  3. 2024 1st round pick (VAN)
  4. 2024 4th round pick (VAN)
VAN
  1. Tanev, Christopher ($2,000,000 retained)
Retained Salary Transactions
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2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$83,500,000$83,268,333$0$212,500$231,667
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LW, C
RFA - 2
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 6
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$5,800,000$5,800,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 8
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$5,350,000$5,350,000
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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$4,900,000$4,900,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 4
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$3,100,000$3,100,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$825,000$825,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$762,500$762,500
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$762,500$762,500
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
RW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$6,250,000$6,250,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 8
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$4,550,000$4,550,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
G
NMC
UFA - 3
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$5,950,000$5,950,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$2,200,000$2,200,000
G
UFA - 2
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
LD/RD, LW
UFA - 1
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$762,500$762,500
RD
UFA - 1
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$762,500$762,500
LD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$1,300,000$1,300,000
C
UFA - 1

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Nov. 18, 2023 at 8:00 a.m.
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Could get so much more from Toronto for tanev and zadorov
Nov. 18, 2023 at 8:01 a.m.
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Vancouver isn't giving up a 1st for a soon to be 34yr old ufa who doesn't want to be in CGY
Nov. 18, 2023 at 8:14 a.m.
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Quoting: theleano1
Vancouver isn't giving up a 1st for a soon to be 34yr old ufa who doesn't want to be in CGY


Significant cap savings in deal.
Nov. 18, 2023 at 8:18 a.m.
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I think you greatly over value Dube. He's not worth one let alone both of those pieces. I could see him not even getting his qualifying offer next season.
You have the wrong team for Hanifin.
I doubt Winnipeg would want to trade Lambert right now, even for a retained Lindholm.
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Nov. 18, 2023 at 8:23 a.m.
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Quoting: Flames1217
Significant cap savings in deal.


for around 40ish game sure. not enough to pay a 1st for.
Nov. 18, 2023 at 9:04 a.m.
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Switch Lambert for Lucius and have Lindholm agree to extend, and you’ve got a deal with WPG.. don’t even need the retention
Nov. 18, 2023 at 9:18 a.m.
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Quoting: BatVader
Switch Lambert for Lucius and have Lindholm agree to extend, and you’ve got a deal with WPG.. don’t even need the retention


Lucius wouldn't do it for me due to taking on Schmidt's deal.

Another small add would need to be made.
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Nov. 18, 2023 at 10:10 a.m.
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Not giving up a 2nd or an RHD for Dube.
Nov. 18, 2023 at 10:40 a.m.
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Edited Nov. 18, 2023 at 2:57 p.m.
Quoting: Flames1217
Lucius wouldn't do it for me due to taking on Schmidt's deal.

Another small add would need to be made.


This can definitely be worked out….as long as the requested add is realistic.
As I stated in my earlier post, we don’t need the retention, so take that into consideration as well
Nov. 18, 2023 at 12:03 p.m.
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Quoting: Kinger25
Could get so much more from Toronto for tanev and zadorov


True but the real value for Zads is about that. At TDL its probably a stupid amount more. Would not surprise me to see the Leafs somehow take all 3 from Cal
Nov. 18, 2023 at 12:06 p.m.
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True but the real value for Zads is about that. At TDL its probably a stupid amount more. Would not surprise me to see the Leafs somehow take all 3 from Cal


I think we just want tanev and zadorov that’s all that’s been rumoured
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Nov. 18, 2023 at 1:54 p.m.
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Quoting: Kinger25
Could get so much more from Toronto for tanev and zadorov


Zadorov isnt worth anything more than a 3rd and Devils clear the leafs in propsects so no they cant. You clearly want the leafs to over pay
Nov. 18, 2023 at 1:56 p.m.
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Zadorov isnt worth anything more than a 3rd and Devils clear the leafs in propsects so no they cant. You clearly want the leafs to over pay


I’m totally fine overpaying as long as we get them both and don’t spend 2 1sts that’s totally okay by me
Nov. 18, 2023 at 3:13 p.m.
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Brad Lambert’s a Top Prospect, Lindholm is the real deal, so you started off fine, but Schmidt has negative value and I don’t see any compensation for taking his back and the flames would want him anyways. How bout:

1st + Lambert + Ehlers FOR Lindholm + Dube + Stromgren!?

Add a 2nd and retain on Hanifin to match Faksa’s Cap Hit. Lian Bischel or Stankoven would be better than the 1st though and I’d see if we can get Dellandrea instead of the 2nd, even if we have to throw something additional back

You’re way low on Zadorov who’ll bring a 1st + Cap/Roster Player WITH retention or a 2nd + 3rd + Cap/Roster a player without

Dube’s value is closer to what you think Zadorov’s is = 3rd+. He’d really have to up his game and start producing a ton more before he’ll be worth a 2nd again

Fair Value for Tanev, but VAN likely doesn’t want to move Myers now, they’ll want to send Beauvillier or Garland and they’ll also try to come up with something other than giving up a 1st, like maybe 2x 2nds and change instead: Brzustewicz + Raty + I’d like to see one or both Jett Woo and Akito Hirose come back to Calgary as well, even if we need to add a piece in addition to Tanev. This might appeal more to CGY than a TOR 1st too, but it’s pretty much certain that’s already on the table if not.
Nov. 18, 2023 at 3:43 p.m.
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Quoting: theleano1
Vancouver isn't giving up a 1st for a soon to be 34yr old ufa who doesn't want to be in CGY

Who said or where can you point out that Tanev doesn’t want to be in CGY!? Maybe he doesn’t want to return to VAN!? We’re Trading Tanev regardless, but I haven’t heard or seen anything indicating Tanev has said he wants out other than a generic tweet that Zadorov might not be the only one considering a change of scenery, which is very vague and could apply to any Flame Player

Quoting: Lancebmx
I think you greatly over value Dube. I could see him not even getting his qualifying offer next season.
You have the wrong team for Hanifin.
I doubt Winnipeg would want to trade Lambert right now, even for Lindholm

What!? Dube’s worth $2.4mil all day long, what’s your beef with him!?

Lambert’s still just a Prospect, Lindholm’s the real deal and could push them over the top

Quoting: Smitty426
True but the real value for Zads is about that. At TDL its probably a stupid amount more. Would not surprise me to see the Leafs somehow take all 3 from Cal

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Zadorov isnt worth anything more than a 3rd and Devils clear the leafs in propsects so no they cant. You clearly want the leafs to over pay

You guys either a) don’t know or watch Zadorov b) aren’t paying attention too or simply choose to ignore the amount of interest in Zadorov c) don’t realize he’s Better, Faster & Younger than MTL’s Chiarot and CLB’s Savard were Traded for 1sts+ and d) don’t understand supply & demand

You wanna pay a 3rd + 5th, go inquire about Old, Slow, No Offence, Goon’s & Pylon’s like Luke Schenn, Zach Bogosian, Joel Edmundson, Erik/Jack Johnson, Marc Staal, Robert Bortuzzo or inquire about Logan Stanley, Ben Harpur, Jared Tinordi, Phillippe Myers, Dylan McIlrath, Keaton Middleton, Jaykob Megna or Josh Brown, all of whom are nowhere near the level of Big-Z, who btw is in the Top-10 for scoring of all the Big D-Men (6’4+ 205lbw+) and with substantially less TOI at that
Nov. 18, 2023 at 4:05 p.m.
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Bourque is a no go. Hanifin is overrated
Nov. 18, 2023 at 4:17 p.m.
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Who said or where can you point out that Tanev doesn’t want to be in CGY!? Maybe he doesn’t want to return to VAN!? We’re Trading Tanev regardless, but I haven’t heard or seen anything indicating Tanev has said he wants out other than a generic tweet that Zadorov might not be the only one considering a change of scenery, which is very vague and could apply to any Flame Player


What!? Dube’s worth $2.4mil all day long, what’s your beef with him!?

Lambert’s still just a Prospect, Lindholm’s the real deal and could push them over the top



You guys either a) don’t know or watch Zadorov b) aren’t paying attention too or simply choose to ignore the amount of interest in Zadorov c) don’t realize he’s Better, Faster & Younger than MTL’s Chiarot and CLB’s Savard were Traded for 1sts+ and d) don’t understand supply & demand

You wanna pay a 3rd + 5th, go inquire about Old, Slow, No Offence, Goon’s & Pylon’s like Luke Schenn, Zach Bogosian, Joel Edmundson, Erik/Jack Johnson, Marc Staal, Robert Bortuzzo or inquire about Logan Stanley, Ben Harpur, Jared Tinordi, Phillippe Myers, Dylan McIlrath, Keaton Middleton, Jaykob Megna or Josh Brown, all of whom are nowhere near the level of Big-Z, who btw is in the Top-10 for scoring of all the Big D-Men (6’4+ 205lbw+) and with substantially less TOI at that


Would love him here in Jersey, but it's going to be a madhouse of an auction (with Tor having the mpst need). His stats square with that of less than the talk, so that's why we say it. And you're correct I have not seen alot of him to judge but it's not worth Jersey to give up our best prospect (Casey in this instance) for a couple of months of Zads. On board with a fair pkg, buy also a Cal fan started the thread. Guess we will see but I think hes a Leaf and they are more willing to give up more rn
Nov. 18, 2023 at 4:29 p.m.
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Would love him here in Jersey, but it's going to be a madhouse of an auction (with Tor having the mpst need). His stats square with that of less than the talk, so that's why we say it. And you're correct I have not seen alot of him to judge but it's not worth Jersey to give up our best prospect (Casey in this instance) for a couple of months of Zads. On board with a fair pkg, buy also a Cal fan started the thread. Guess we will see but I think hes a Leaf and they are more willing to give up more rn

I’m hoping Zadorov remains a Flame🤞

If not, a 2nd/Salminen + Bahl + 3rd/C.Foote would be fine for Zadorov 50% retained for me. He’s wanting a long-term contract, so just sign him.

And Casey isn’t in this thread 🧵
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Nov. 18, 2023 at 11:54 p.m.
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Quoting: KingofRnR
I’m hoping Zadorov remains a Flame🤞

If not, a 2nd/Salminen + Bahl + 3rd/C.Foote would be fine for Zadorov 50% retained for me. He’s wanting a long-term contract, so just sign him.

And Casey isn’t in this thread 🧵


No Casey's not here but everywhere else
 
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