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Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 19, 2023
Published: Nov. 19, 2023
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LTIR Enabled: Yes
Season Days: 192
Days Remaining: 151
Season Remaining: 79%
Projected Cap Hit Prior To Days Remaining Tooltip : $96,038,572
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Nov. 19, 2023 at 8:33 p.m.
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Quoting: boltsfan71
your offer is a joke, konecny will never be traded for that


Guess what your offer is joke konecny would never get traded three 1sts I’m not gunna lie this made my day
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Nov. 19, 2023 at 8:33 p.m.
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Guess what your offer is joke konecny would never get traded three 1sts I’m not gunna lie this made my day


with that offer you made yes you would have to offer 3 firsts, now run along little casual
Nov. 19, 2023 at 8:34 p.m.
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he's hit 60+ twice so at this point I dont think you even know who konecny is


Oh my bad lol 60 points twice jeez that’s incredible maybe it’s four 1sts lol PLD had some point seasons and is a Center can’t believe the jets didn’t get 5 1sts for him lmao come on you casual asf you from Tampa
Nov. 19, 2023 at 8:35 p.m.
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Oh my bad lol 60 points twice jeez that’s incredible maybe it’s four 1sts lol PLD had some point seasons and is a Center can’t believe the jets didn’t get 5 1sts for him lmao come on you casual asf you from Tampa


I love how mad you are that im exposing you, learn puck casual and thanks for the laugh
Nov. 19, 2023 at 8:37 p.m.
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I love how mad you are that im exposing you, learn puck casual and thanks for the laugh

If you only knew already posted this on Twitter showing how casual Tampa fans are man said 3 1sts plus because he had two 60 point seasons lol I’m not even close to mad I’m literally dying of laughter
Nov. 19, 2023 at 8:38 p.m.
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If you only knew already posted this on Twitter showing how casual Tampa fans are man said 3 1sts plus because he had two 60 point seasons lol I’m not even close to mad I’m literally dying of laughter


I can tell how mad you are and its pretty funny
Nov. 19, 2023 at 8:40 p.m.
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Listen if anyone thinks three 1st rounders plus for konecny is smoking the best pot and I want it

@boltsfan71 wasn’t implying Konecny himself is worth 3x 1sts, he’s saying you need to add 2x more 1sts, because:

A) Dumping Klingberg won’t be free (some ppl believe that’ll cost a 1st alone, I think it costs a 2nd or 2x 3rds min.)

B) Next you gotta pay for retention, which should be a 3rd/Robertson (not everybody values Robertson like Leafs Fans)

C) Konecny’s probably worth a 1st + 2x 2nds/1st by himself. Don’t quote me on that though cause I don’t care for Konecny that much, so don’t fellow him, I just know he’s playing well and super valuable right now

And don’t get me wrong, I’m not against pot heads, because technically I am one, but I’m not the annoying prototypical dope head who’s dumb & annoying, which is what I think of when ppl add lol or funny faces to their posts 😂
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Nov. 19, 2023 at 8:41 p.m.
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Quoting: KingofRnR
boltsfan71 wasn’t implying Konecny himself is worth 3x 1sts, he’s saying you need to add 2x more 1sts, because:

A) Dumping Klingberg won’t be free (some ppl believe that’ll cost a 1st alone, I think it costs a 2nd or 2x 3rds min.)

B) Next you gotta pay for retention, which should be a 3rd/Robertson (not everybody values Robertson like Leafs Fans)

C) Konecny’s probably worth a 1st + 2x 2nds/1st by himself. Don’t quote me on that though cause I don’t care for Konecny that much, so don’t fellow him, I just know he’s playing well and super valuable right now

And don’t get me wrong, I’m not against pot heads, because technically I am one, but I’m not the annoying prototypical dope head who’s dumb & annoying, which is what I think of when ppl add lol or funny faces to their posts 😂


it definitely says something when everyone disagrees with him in his own comments, but hey he's clearly new to the sport
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Nov. 19, 2023 at 8:42 p.m.
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I can tell how mad you are and its pretty funny

Bro really think about it you saying I’m mad because you said konecny would go for three 1st rounders plus it’s literally a fake trade lol who would get mad like please tell what put that would make me mad now if the leafs actually paid 3 1sts then I’d be mad lol
Nov. 19, 2023 at 8:43 p.m.
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Bro really think about it you saying I’m mad because you said konecny would go for three 1st rounders plus it’s literally a fake trade lol who would get mad like please tell what put that would make me mad now if the leafs actually paid 3 1sts then I’d be mad lol


ok calm down casual, im just here to tell you you're wrong and need to fix your joke of an offer, dont be mad at me that you dont understand trades
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Nov. 19, 2023 at 8:46 p.m.
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Quoting: KingofRnR
boltsfan71 wasn’t implying Konecny himself is worth 3x 1sts, he’s saying you need to add 2x more 1sts, because:

A) Dumping Klingberg won’t be free (some ppl believe that’ll cost a 1st alone, I think it costs a 2nd or 2x 3rds min.)

B) Next you gotta pay for retention, which should be a 3rd/Robertson (not everybody values Robertson like Leafs Fans)

C) Konecny’s probably worth a 1st + 2x 2nds/1st by himself. Don’t quote me on that though cause I don’t care for Konecny that much, so don’t fellow him, I just know he’s playing well and super valuable right now

And don’t get me wrong, I’m not against pot heads, because technically I am one, but I’m not the annoying prototypical dope head who’s dumb & annoying, which is what I think of when ppl add lol or funny faces to their posts 😂

Robertson for team to retain 2 mill for 1 year what? The last two months of the season don’t matter lol
Nov. 19, 2023 at 8:48 p.m.
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Quoting: boltsfan71
it definitely says something when everyone disagrees with him in his own comments, but hey he's clearly new to the sport

Next comes the anger because you didn’t agree with them when you should have, because everyone knows the world revolves around Toronto and the Leafs who are the Greatest 2 things ever Created in Life. That’s always mistake #1 when dealing with Pretentious Torontonians & Leaflets

Then comes the threats to add you to their ignore list, like we would honestly care

Then they Virtue Signal and say you are a bad person because you made fun of them or insulted them when they were the first to call you delusional or insinuate you’re out to lunch

And don’t even ask them to elaborate or break down why they have their opinion, because they’ll simply melt like a Snowflake and disappear under pressure and when the heat gets turned up too much

That, in a nutshell, is what I have to deal with here on a daily basis when it comes to most (not all) TOR Fans
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Nov. 19, 2023 at 8:49 p.m.
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Quoting: KingofRnR
Next comes the anger because you didn’t agree with them when you should, because everyone knows the world revolves around Toronto and the Leafs who are the Greatest 2 things ever Created in Life

Then comes the threats to add you to their ignore list, like we would honestly care

Then they Virtue Signal and say you are a bad person because you made fun of them or insulted them when they were the first to call you delusional or insinuate you’re out to lunch

And don’t even ask them to elaborate or break down why they have their opinion, because they’ll simply melt like a Snowflake and disappear under pressure and when the heat gets turned up too much

That is a nutshell is what I have to deal with here on a daily basis when it comes to most (not all) TOR Fans


yup so true, they cant handle it when people prove them wrong which isn't hard to do for most of them
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Nov. 19, 2023 at 8:50 p.m.
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Robertson for team to retain 2 mill for 1 year what? The last two months of the season don’t matter lol


You REALLY do not understand how trades work or how valuable retention is at the trade deadline... Especially when the cap hasn't gone up much in years.
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Nov. 19, 2023 at 8:52 p.m.
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Quoting: boltsfan71
it definitely says something when everyone disagrees with him in his own comments, but hey he's clearly new to the sport

Lol you have one guy agreeing with you nobody else has said something like konecny for 3 1sts lmao and it’s CF nobody agrees with anyone right now flames fans are all like you they think zadorov will be getting three 1sts the best part about coming on CF is how everyone is wrong all the time I remember last year Canucks fans were claiming schenn would get a 1st and they got a 3rd chychrun was supposed to be some huge deal and wasn’t I’ve never seen anyone be right on here but this konecny for three 1sts plus takes the cake
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Nov. 19, 2023 at 8:55 p.m.
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Lol you have one guy agreeing with you nobody else has said something like konecny for 3 1sts lmao and it’s CF nobody agrees with anyone right now flames fans are all like you they think zadorov will be getting three 1sts the best part about coming on CF is how everyone is wrong all the time I remember last year Canucks fans were claiming schenn would get a 1st and they got a 3rd chychrun was supposed to be some huge deal and wasn’t I’ve never seen anyone be right on here but this konecny for three 1sts plus takes the cake


and now you're so mad that you're responding to comments not even directly replied to you, wow thats sad that you're this angry and you lack this much knowledge in hockey
Nov. 19, 2023 at 8:55 p.m.
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Next comes the anger because you didn’t agree with them when you should have, because everyone knows the world revolves around Toronto and the Leafs who are the Greatest 2 things ever Created in Life. That’s always mistake #1 when dealing with Pretentious Torontonians & Leaflets

Then comes the threats to add you to their ignore list, like we would honestly care

Then they Virtue Signal and say you are a bad person because you made fun of them or insulted them when they were the first to call you delusional or insinuate you’re out to lunch

And don’t even ask them to elaborate or break down why they have their opinion, because they’ll simply melt like a Snowflake and disappear under pressure and when the heat gets turned up too much

That, in a nutshell, is what I have to deal with here on a daily basis when it comes to most (not all) TOR Fans

I’m not a liberal I don’t cry about anything like that or get mad over something that’s not even real lol i would never call the boltsfan a bad person but I still can’t get over the 3 1sts for konecny I’m trying think when the last any player was traded for three 1st rounders
Nov. 19, 2023 at 8:57 p.m.
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You REALLY do not understand how trades work or how valuable retention is at the trade deadline... Especially when the cap hasn't gone up much in years.


What did the leafs pay to retain McCabe for 3 years? Hmm I know how trades work and it’s not like that lol
Nov. 19, 2023 at 9:03 p.m.
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I’m not a liberal I don’t cry about anything like that or get mad over something that’s not even real lol i would never call the boltsfan a bad person but I still can’t get over the 3 1sts for konecny I’m trying think when the last any player was traded for three 1st rounders

So you’re just gonna ignore my explanation completely!?

Tell me you’re not just Trolling and looking to Agitate!?

Doesn’t matter, I wouldn’t believe you if you said you weren’t, given your communications here with @boltsfan71

Super happy to read you don’t associate yourself with the Party who’s quickly and clearly destroying Canada though, I give you props, credit and respect for that 🫡
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Nov. 19, 2023 at 9:04 p.m.
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What did the leafs pay to retain McCabe for 3 years? Hmm I know how trades work and it’s not like that lol


Leafs paid: a conditional 2025 first-round pick, a 2026 second-round pick, and forwards Joey Anderson and Pavel Gogolev

for: defenceman Jake McCabe, forward Sam Lafferty, a conditional fifth-round pick in 2024, and a conditional fifth-round pick in 2025

That's an awful lot to pay for a 7th D and 13th forward
Nov. 19, 2023 at 9:09 p.m.
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So you’re just gonna ignore my explanation completely!?

Tell me you’re not just Trolling and looking to Agitate!?

Doesn’t matter, I wouldn’t believe you if you said you weren’t, given your communications withboltsgan71.

Super happy to read you don’t associate yourself with the Party who’s quickly and clearly destroying Canada though, I give you props, credit and respect for that 🫡
the reason why is I don’t agree with klingberg thing because ppl forget if the leafs have the best offer for any trade for example and a team has to take back salary to make the trade work they will it’s how hockey always worked I get you gotta pay to retain but but it’s really not that much the leafs barley paid anything for hawks to retain on McCabe for 3 years 1 year of konecny won’t cost that much honestly I think the leafs paid a 5th to minny to retain on oreilly or was it another trade but either way you can’t deny three 1sts even if they took back klingberg is hilarious and no team would pay that
Nov. 19, 2023 at 9:10 p.m.
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Leafs paid: a conditional 2025 first-round pick, a 2026 second-round pick, and forwards Joey Anderson and Pavel Gogolev

for: defenceman Jake McCabe, forward Sam Lafferty, a conditional fifth-round pick in 2024, and a conditional fifth-round pick in 2025

That's an awful lot to pay for a 7th D and 13th forward

Lol of course there bad players now but I thought laffy was so good and leafs were dumb for trading him and that’s basically a 1st and a second and got back two 5ths come on lol
Nov. 19, 2023 at 9:17 p.m.
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So you’re just gonna ignore my explanation completely!?

Tell me you’re not just Trolling and looking to Agitate!?

Doesn’t matter, I wouldn’t believe you if you said you weren’t, given your communications here with boltsfan71

Super happy to read you don’t associate yourself with the Party who’s quickly and clearly destroying Canada though, I give you props, credit and respect for that 🫡


yea they're clearly a troll
Nov. 19, 2023 at 9:27 p.m.
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the reason why is I don’t agree with klingberg thing because ppl forget if the leafs have the best offer for any trade for example and a team has to take back salary to make the trade work they will it’s how hockey always worked I get you gotta pay to retain but but it’s really not that much the leafs barley paid anything for hawks to retain on McCabe for 3 years 1 year of konecny won’t cost that much honestly I think the leafs paid a 5th to minny to retain on oreilly or was it another trade but either way you can’t deny three 1sts even if they took back klingberg is hilarious and no team would pay that

The best thing TOR can hope for is for Klingberg to end up on LTIR and stay there for the rest of the season

While what you’re trying to say isn’t necessarily all wrong, there’s some next level context you need to be aware of:

1) the closer we get to the Trade Deadline, the more Cap Space Teams have and the more Teams willing to Retain or Take Cap Dumps there will be making it cheaper & easier to dump and/or get retention on a player

2) the out of Pocket Expense to the Owners will be minimal at the Trade Deadline, because the Player they Retain on or Accept Dumped on them will have been paid like 80% of their Salary at that point as well as any Bonuses as well, so the out of pocket expense isn’t as large as say paying from now to the end of the season and again, there’s far fewer Teams willing to retain right now = today, so the compensation required is significantly higher, same goes for the off-season in comparison to the Trade Deadline, when most retention and cap dumps only go to the end of the season

3) aside from Cap Space and Money Out of Pocket, what’s even more important and valuable to Teams are Retention Slots. You’re only allowed to retain on 3 Players MAX and PHI is already retaining on Kevin Hayes this season, the next and the one after that, leaving just 2. If they were to retain on Konecny, that’d take up 1 this season and another next, leaving them with just 1 retention slot this year and next. They don’t want to do that, given they’re a rebuilding Team. They want to maximize their retention slots. They’re VERY valuable to a rebuilding Team

So ultimately, it depends on when this trade happens, how many teams they have to compete with that are willing to retain for compensation and whether using a retention spot makes sense and is worth the compensation in return

I’m not high on McCabe, personally I think he’s a very good shot blocker and he has some physicality, but otherwise he sucks. The only reason CHI got a 1st for him, is because of the $$$ amount and years/term they retaining on him. I think McCabe is a 5/6/7 D-Man. In fact, I’d have Zadorov at 2LD over McCabe in TOR all day long
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Nov. 19, 2023 at 9:28 p.m.
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it definitely says something when everyone disagrees with him in his own comments, but hey he's clearly new to the sport


I don’t disagree with him lmao I think ur the flat out dumb one and only comment on oilers and leafs posts cause nobody cares about the irrelevant lightning so you have nothing else better to do but troll
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