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Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 19, 2023
Published: Nov. 19, 2023
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LTIR Enabled: Yes
Season Days: 192
Days Remaining: 151
Season Remaining: 79%
Projected Cap Hit Prior To Days Remaining Tooltip : $96,038,572
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$11,000,000$8,651,042
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$6,962,366$5,475,611
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$2,250,000$1,769,531
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$2,000,000$1,572,917
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Nov. 19, 2023 at 9:31 p.m.
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Quoting: Oilers_29
I don’t disagree with him lmao I think ur the flat out dumb one and only comment on oilers and leafs posts cause nobody cares about the irrelevant lightning so you have nothing else better to do but troll


aww someone's mad I exposed them too that you went searching through my profile
Nov. 19, 2023 at 9:32 p.m.
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Quoting: KingofRnR
You’re not offering anything close to what Chychrun got here Bud

Not all 1st Round Picks are equal Dude

ARI received a 12th Overall Pick + 2nd + 2nd (that became another 1st if certain conditions were met, but that didn’t happen). Hanifin should fetch what Chychrun brought, especially because he’ll likely be Traded with Term


There's no comparison to make here. Chyrchrun was the better player already at 24 and had 3 years remaining at 4.6 mil. Hanifin is a UFA this summer, which means he's not being traded with term at all, he's a rental...

Van acquired Hronek and a 4th for a 1st and a 2nd. Hronek is younger, had much better production last year that he's continued with the canucks and is an RFA at the end of his contract. So the absolute ceiling for what you should expect for Hanifin is a 1st and a 2nd.
Nov. 19, 2023 at 9:33 p.m.
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aww someone's mad I exposed them too that you went searching through my profile


You called me delusional cause I think draisaitl is worth more than 1st and 3rd but alright man AHAHA

I think I exposed how you only post on oilers and leafs posts to troll cause nobody cares to post about the lightning cause they are irrelevant
Nov. 19, 2023 at 9:34 p.m.
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Quoting: Oilers_29
You called me delusional cause I think draisaitl is worth more than 1st and 3rd but alright man AHAHA

I think I exposed how you only post on oilers and leafs posts to troll cause nobody cares to post about the lightning cause they are irrelevant


dont be mad at me that my team won and yours didn't, maybe you two can learn puck together and one day you'll maybe be on my level
Nov. 19, 2023 at 9:37 p.m.
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Quoting: boltsfan71
dont be mad at me that my team won and yours didn't, maybe you two can learn puck together and one day you'll maybe be on my level

Buddy ur literally a perfect example of an imbecile and what r u talking about my level u sound like a very entitled person
Nov. 19, 2023 at 9:38 p.m.
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Buddy ur literally a perfect example of an imbecile and what r u talking about my level u sound like a very entitled person


listen you already labeled yourself as a troll stalker and on top of that you're just a casual, you dont know hockey like I do, sorry
Nov. 19, 2023 at 9:39 p.m.
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Quoting: KingofRnR
The best thing TOR can hope for is for Klingberg to end up on LTIR and stay there for the rest of the season

While what you’re trying to say there isn’t necessarily wrong there’s some context you need to be aware of:

1) the closer we get to the Trade Deadline, the more Cap Space Teams will have and there’ll be more Teams willing to Retain or Take Cap Dump Dumps
2) the out of Pocket Expense to the Owners will be minimum, because the Player they Retain on or Accept Dumped on them will have been paid like 80% of their Salary at that point and any Bonuses as well, so the out of pocket expense isn’t as large as say paying from now on and again, there’s far fewer Teams willing to retain right now = today, so the compensation required is significantly higher, same goes for the off-season in comparison to the trade Deadline
3) aside from Cap Space and Money Out of Pocket, what’s even more important and valuable to Teams are Retention Slots. You’re only allowed to retain on 3 Players Max and PHI is already retaining on Kevin Hayes this season , the next and one after that, leaving just 2. If they were to retain on Konecny, that’s take up 1 this season and another next, leaving them with just 1 retention slot this year and next. They don’t want to do that, given they’re a rebuilding Team. They want to maximize their retention slots. They’re VERY valuable to a rebuilding Team

So ultimately, it depends on when this trade happens, how many teams they have to compete with willing to retain for compensation and whether using a retention spot makes sense and is worth the compensation

I’m not high on McCabe, personally I think he’s a very good shot blocker and he has some physicality, but otherwise he sucks. The only reason CHI got a 1st for him, is because of the amount and year’s they’re retaining in him. I think McCabe is a 5/6/7 D-Man. In fact, I’d have Zadorov at 2LD over McCabe in TOR all day long

I did forget about hayes but the one player I believe they will use another slot will be konecny he probably the most valuable piece if they actually rebuild he will be retained on no matter where he goes so that’s really not an issue at the end of the day nobody knows what a player will go for it’s all about who wants him and what someone is willing to pay that’s why we come on here and mess around I know that bolts guy probably your buddy and I don’t come on here crazy amounts but that guy was definitely trolling I know you think it’s me but definitely not
Nov. 19, 2023 at 9:41 p.m.
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Quoting: boltsfan71
listen you already labeled yourself as a troll stalker and on top of that you're just a casual, you dont know hockey like I do, sorry


Buddy I’m from Ontario AHAHA u wish u knew hockey like me
Nov. 19, 2023 at 9:42 p.m.
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Buddy I’m from Ontario AHAHA u wish u knew hockey like me


you're a troll that everyone laughs at, and now ive angered you just like your buttbuddy, learn puck and you'll be like me someday maybe
Nov. 19, 2023 at 9:42 p.m.
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Buddy I’m from Ontario AHAHA u wish u knew hockey like me


laughing because you got exposed, you're just like the rest casual
Nov. 19, 2023 at 9:52 p.m.
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Quoting: Affectionate_Side_64
There's no comparison to make here. Chyrchrun was the better player already at 24 and had 3 years remaining at 4.6 mil. Hanifin is a UFA this summer, which means he's not being traded with term at all, he's a rental...

Van acquired Hronek and a 4th for a 1st and a 2nd. Hronek is younger, had much better production last year that he's continued with the canucks and is an RFA inat the end of his contract. So the absolute ceiling for what you should expect for Hanifin is a 1st and a 2nd.

Maybe, I guess we’ll see, but ARI didn’t get what they wanted for Chychrun, likely because of his injury history, something Hanifin doesn’t have and don’t forget, ARI could have ended up with 1st+1st+2nd. The 1st was conditional and became a 2nd

Rumors have it and I can almost guarantee Hanifin will be a Traded with an Extension in place. His comparable is Hampus Lindholm = 1st + 1st/2nd + 2nd, same as Chychrun

Yzerman’s a very good GM, but he should have gotten way more for Hronek. That said, the pick they accepted at the time was supposed to be a 13th Overall based on where NYI were in the standings

IOW - You don’t always win or get full trade value, so if we only get a 1st + 2nd for Hanifin, it’d better be a damned good 1st & 2nd/Prospect
Nov. 19, 2023 at 9:57 p.m.
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Quoting: KingofRnR
Maybe, I guess we’ll see, but ARI didn’t get what they wanted for Chychrun, likely because of his injury history, something Hanifin doesn’t have and don’t forget, ARI could have ended up with 1st+1st+2nd. The 1st was conditional and became a 2nd

Rumors have it and I can almost guarantee Hanifin will be a Traded with an Extension in place. His comparable is Hampus Lindholm = 1st + 1st/2nd + 2nd, same as Chychrun

Yzerman’s a very good GM, but he should have gotten way more for Hronek. That said, the pick they accepted at the time was supposed to be a 13th Overall based on where NYI were in the standings

IOW - You don’t always win or get full trade value, so if we only get a 1st + 2nd for Hanifin, it’d better be a damned good 1st & 2nd/Prospect


If there's an extension in place that's different for sure. One thing is certain though, his value is nowhere near what Chychrun's was, so that's a poor comparable.
Nov. 19, 2023 at 10:00 p.m.
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Konecny has been the best position player so far this year for the Flyers. He has one more year left of term and his contract is pretty team-friendly in the sense that his on-ice performance is probably worth more than what he is currently making. Very doubtful the Flyers trade him in general, but if they do, it will be for someone who has more potential than Nicholas Robertson. Klingberg is fine to include to balance out the cap, but he doesn't have any re-sell value. Steeves wouldn't crack the top-10 in players 23 & under on the Flyers so he doesn't really move the needle. The 1st is nice and would ideally be part of any package for TK, but they would need some higher upside prospects coming back in return.
Nov. 19, 2023 at 10:02 p.m.
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I did forget about hayes but the one player I believe they will use another slot will be konecny he probably the most valuable piece if they actually rebuild he will be retained on no matter where he goes so that’s really not an issue at the end of the day nobody knows what a player will go for it’s all about who wants him and what someone is willing to pay that’s why we come on here and mess around I know that bolts guy probably your buddy and I don’t come on here crazy amounts but that guy was definitely trolling I know you think it’s me but definitely not

We all have our moments, but I like @boltsfan71. He seems similar to me and gets annoyed by ppl who use the word delusional, lol’s or funny faces 😂

I get annoyed when ppl are so closed minded and stubborn that they don’t want to have civil conversation and/or ignore or completely misrepresent what I’m saying

I like that you’re not a liberal, so I continued to invest time & energy in our conversation, which seems to be going fine now 🤞

Quoting: Oilers_29
Buddy I’m from Ontario AHAHA u wish u knew hockey like me

Let me guess, you’re from or close to the centre of the Universe = Toronto, because that would explain a lot and I could tell by the way you had to let him know how much more you know about hockey than him, which is yet another soy boy comment, used solely by small little men with insecurity issues who feel they need to put themselves up on a pedestal for some reason as if it make them look bigger or something when it does the exact opposite

You two obviously have history, but if I had to pick between the two of you being out of line of line or trolling here right now, that’d be you man. You came out of nowhere to attack him. Clearly you’re holding on to some frustrations and anger and there’s just no value or benefit to doing that. It makes you look like an angry little fool tbh
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Nov. 19, 2023 at 10:03 p.m.
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Quoting: KingofRnR
We all have our moments, but I like boltsfan71. He seems similar to me and gets annoyed by ppl who use the word delusional, lol’s or funny faces 😂

I get annoyed when ppl are so closed minded and stubborn that they don’t want to have civil conversation and/or ignore or completely misrepresent what I’m saying

I like that you’re not a liberal, so I continued to invest time & energy in our conversation, which seems to be going fine now 🤞


Let me guess, you’re from or close to the centre of the Universe = Toronto, because that would explain a lot and I could tell by the way you had to let him know how much more you know about hockey than him, which is yet another soy boy comment, used solely by small little men with insecurity issues who feel they need to put themselves up on a pedestal for some reason as if it make them look bigger or something when it does the exact opposite

You two obviously have history, but if I had to pick between the two of you being out of line of line or trolling here right now, that’d be you man. You came out of nowhere to attack him. Clearly you’re holding on to some frustrations and anger and there’s just no value or benefit to doing that. It makes you look like an angry little fool tbh


we're actually pretty similar, we both agree that most leafs and oilers fans are trolls who get mad when they get proven wrong
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Nov. 19, 2023 at 10:05 p.m.
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Konecny has been the best position player so far this year for the Flyers. He has one more year left of term and his contract is pretty team-friendly in the sense that his on-ice performance is probably worth more than what he is currently making. Very doubtful the Flyers trade him in general, but if they do, it will be for someone who has more potential than Nicholas Robertson. Klingberg is fine to include to balance out the cap, but he doesn't have any re-sell value. Steeves wouldn't crack the top-10 in players 23 & under on the Flyers so he doesn't really move the needle. The 1st is nice and would ideally be part of any package for TK, but they would need some higher upside prospects coming back in return.


dont speak any facts with that troll, he'll get mad
Nov. 19, 2023 at 10:07 p.m.
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Quoting: Affectionate_Side_64
If there's an extension in place that's different for sure. One thing is certain though, his value is nowhere near what Chychrun's was, so that's a poor comparable.

I disagree, simply because of his injury history. He has bad knees man. He had already been through 2 knee surgeries at the time he was Traded

It’s worked out marvellously in OTT’s favour so far, but he could go down again at any time.

H.Lindholm => Hanifin = Injury Prone Chychrun. It’s close though and comes down to the main needs of that Team and how the GM values them.

Hampus is the Better Defender, Chychrun’s Better Offensively and Hanifin is just Very Good at Both aspects
Nov. 19, 2023 at 10:11 p.m.
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we're actually pretty similar, we both agree that most leafs and oilers fans are trolls who get mad when they get proven wrong


You proved me wrong how what did I miss did the trade actually happen konecny went for three 1sts I can’t believe it oh wait he didn’t lol
Nov. 19, 2023 at 10:12 p.m.
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You proved me wrong how what did I miss did the trade actually happen konecny went for three 1sts I can’t believe it oh wait he didn’t lol


just keep proving my point, you're making yourself look like a fool and showing how insecure and mad you get
Nov. 19, 2023 at 10:41 p.m.
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just keep proving my point, you're making yourself look like a fool and showing how insecure and mad you get

Gotta give it him, he’s got you chasing him like a squirrel around a tree 🐿️ That’s happened to me too before, so just gotta recognize when to pull the pin and move on to the next one lol

On a side note, not sure if you’ve ever heard of “The Trailer Park Boys”, but it’s a Low Budget Canadian Classic that’s worth watching to get away from this all and have a few laughs

Just say frigg off @thekiller93 and then move on and you should be good 👍
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Nov. 19, 2023 at 10:43 p.m.
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Gotta give it him, he’s got you chasing him like a squirrel around a tree 🐿️ That’s happened to me too before, so just gotta recognize when to pull the pin and move on to the next one lol

On a side note, not sure if you’ve ever heard of “The Trailer Park Boys”, but it’s a Low Budget Canadian Classic that’s worth watching to get away from this all and have a few laughs

Just say frigg off thekiller93 and then move on and you should be good 👍


im just letting him play my game and keep proving my point, it's quite amusing to watch someone get that mad, but yea Ive watched that show it can get just as many laughs as on here
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Nov. 19, 2023 at 11:20 p.m.
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We all have our moments, but I like boltsfan71. He seems similar to me and gets annoyed by ppl who use the word delusional, lol’s or funny faces 😂

I get annoyed when ppl are so closed minded and stubborn that they don’t want to have civil conversation and/or ignore or completely misrepresent what I’m saying

I like that you’re not a liberal, so I continued to invest time & energy in our conversation, which seems to be going fine now 🤞


Let me guess, you’re from or close to the centre of the Universe = Toronto, because that would explain a lot and I could tell by the way you had to let him know how much more you know about hockey than him, which is yet another soy boy comment, used solely by small little men with insecurity issues who feel they need to put themselves up on a pedestal for some reason as if it make them look bigger or something when it does the exact opposite

You two obviously have history, but if I had to pick between the two of you being out of line of line or trolling here right now, that’d be you man. You came out of nowhere to attack him. Clearly you’re holding on to some frustrations and anger and there’s just no value or benefit to doing that. It makes you look like an angry little fool tbh


Talk about coming out of nowhere to attack some it’s almost like u were talking about urself that entire time.

You literally got ur self involved with something that had nothing to do with you ahaha that’s a prime example of a drama queen settle down buddy.

Also I’m pretty sure you were insisting that I was liberal and just so you know that im not an I absolutely despise them.
Nov. 19, 2023 at 11:33 p.m.
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Gotta give it him, he’s got you chasing him like a squirrel around a tree 🐿️ That’s happened to me too before, so just gotta recognize when to pull the pin and move on to the next one lol

On a side note, not sure if you’ve ever heard of “The Trailer Park Boys”, but it’s a Low Budget Canadian Classic that’s worth watching to get away from this all and have a few laughs

Just say frigg off thekiller93 and then move on and you should be good 👍
I’m glad someone got the TPB reference you a good dude I gained a lot of respect for you regardless of what was said here today
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Nov. 19, 2023 at 11:35 p.m.
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Gotta give it him, he’s got you chasing him like a squirrel around a tree 🐿️ That’s happened to me too before, so just gotta recognize when to pull the pin and move on to the next one lol

On a side note, not sure if you’ve ever heard of “The Trailer Park Boys”, but it’s a Low Budget Canadian Classic that’s worth watching to get away from this all and have a few laughs

Just say frigg off thekiller93 and then move on and you should be good 👍


And a side note you and that bolts guy are not alike trust me
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Nov. 20, 2023 at 12:25 a.m.
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Talk about coming out of nowhere to attack some it’s almost like u were talking about urself that entire time.

You literally got ur self involved with something that had nothing to do with you ahaha that’s a prime example of a drama queen settle down buddy.

Also I’m pretty sure you were insisting that I was liberal and just so you know that im not an I absolutely despise them.

You don’t want any of this bro, Trust Me 😎, let’s just leave it at F🦆 the Liberals 🇨🇦 and we’re good k 👍

Otherwise to quote my great friend:

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What Is Anybody Here Gonna Do!? 💪 💪 💪
 
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