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Granato magic

Created by: Shibbal18
Team: 2023-24 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 22, 2023
Published: Nov. 22, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$3,000,000
Trades
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  1. Laine, Patrik
  2. 2024 3rd round pick (CBJ)
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2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,500,000$77,385,237$0$4,307,500$6,114,763

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$9,000,000$9,000,000
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NMC
UFA - 4
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$7,142,857$7,142,857
C
UFA - 7
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$8,700,000$8,700,000
C, RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$7,100,000$7,100,000
C, LW
UFA - 7
$3,000,000$3,000,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$855,833$855,833 (Performance Bonus$32,500$32K)
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW, LW
RFA - 2
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$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$650,000$650K)
LW
RFA - 3
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
C
UFA - 1
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
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Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,285,714$4,285,714
LD
UFA - 7
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$837,500$837,500
G
RFA - 1
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$916,667$916,667 (Performance Bonus$1,850,000$2M)
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RD
RFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$925,000$925K)
G
RFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000
LD
RFA - 2
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$2,500,000$2,500,000 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
RW
UFA - 1
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$3,333,333$3,333,333
RD
UFA - 3
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$1,850,000$1,850,000
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RFA - 1

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Nov. 22, 2023 at 1:18 p.m.
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Why give such a big package for someone that was just healthy scratch? CBJ does not have leverage here
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Nov. 22, 2023 at 2:16 p.m.
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Quoting: kclar
Why give such a big package for someone that was just healthy scratch? CBJ does not have leverage here


Yeah id probably swap out Ostland with Wahlberg looking at this, but other than that I don't think it's that big
Nov. 22, 2023 at 2:17 p.m.
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Yeah id probably swap out Ostland with Wahlberg looking at this, but other than that I don't think it's that big


It’s a BIG overpay for someone who isn’t that good to begin with
Why do u even want Laine???
Nov. 22, 2023 at 2:42 p.m.
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Quoting: AntiAnalytics
It’s a BIG overpay for someone who isn’t that good to begin with
Why do u even want Laine???


Granato will bring back that 40 goal player
Nov. 22, 2023 at 2:48 p.m.
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Maybe I'm crazy, but if I'm going to get a forward, I'm either going after a two way center that can win draws, or maybe a hockey player with some nasty to replace our 4th liners. Both Kane and Laine could potentially bring some offense in a very loose granato system. I'm not convinced that system leads to sustained wins. I don't get a vote though, and the owner does like shiny new toys, so it's not unrealistic, I would go another way though.
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Nov. 22, 2023 at 3:15 p.m.
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Shibbal post more, it's a better interweb when you are here. Even when I don't agree with your trades! Happy Thanksgiving.
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Nov. 22, 2023 at 4:32 p.m.
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Quoting: kclar
Why give such a big package for someone that was just healthy scratch? CBJ does not have leverage here


He’s had a rough start to the year, but he’s a big, skilled, talented scorer who can get you 30-35 goal pace consistently who can also line up at center if you’re in a disaster granted, can’t do it that well, and is signed for two more after this year. It’s intriguing.

But I’m not sure that’s what we should go for. I think we need to lean into the defense and acquire someone who is good on draws for the bottom six, acquire a forward with grit who is hard to play against like a Foligno, and look for another quality defenseman if they can upgrade over Jokiharju. Mario Ferraro comes to mind immediately.
Nov. 22, 2023 at 5:32 p.m.
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I think the package may be OK if there is a 2mil to 2.5mil retain on Laine and the pick is top 10 protected
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Nov. 22, 2023 at 5:57 p.m.
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Quoting: AntiAnalytics
It’s a BIG overpay for someone who isn’t that good to begin with
Why do u even want Laine???



Comrie, Krebs and Olof are basically all dumps, Krebs is a 4th Liner who can't win FO and a healthy scratch.
Nov. 22, 2023 at 6:46 p.m.
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Comrie, Krebs and Olof are basically all dumps, Krebs is a 4th Liner who can't win FO and a healthy scratch.


Krebs value is NOT as a “dump”
That’s preposterous
Nov. 22, 2023 at 6:47 p.m.
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Granato will bring back that 40 goal player


Even if that true- and it’s pretty improbable- you pay for what he’s worth NOW, not what he was worth years ago
Nov. 22, 2023 at 7:49 p.m.
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Quoting: AntiAnalytics
Even if that true- and it’s pretty improbable- you pay for what he’s worth NOW, not what he was worth years ago


Same goes for Krebs though. Laine right now is worth a conditional 1st and a prospect id think
Nov. 23, 2023 at 2:01 a.m.
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Same goes for Krebs though. Laine right now is worth a conditional 1st and a prospect id think


Lol
Ok, for argument’s sake….
Let’s just say that all u we’re giving up was Ostlund & a 1st

I still see absolutely no reason why a forward who doesn’t play defense is your target?

And with an $8.7mil Cap hit,
it’s just a dumb gamble that he’ll get back to being a 40 goal scorer

I’m sorry dude, but Laine is just an absolutely horrible idea
 
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