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Who Says no

Created by: PapaHabitant
Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 22, 2023
Published: Nov. 22, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Thought Process for value and reasoning is
Bouchard = Taking Campbell without retention & Getting Kovacevic

1st/Holloway/Bourgault + 2nd = Monty with 3yr extension at 3mil AAV

Armia is evening the money out for this years hab team maybe traded between arizona first to keep 50% first for a 4/5th round pick

The trade leaves EDM with close to 5 mil in cap space do add another middle 6 forward for depth (maybe a josh anderson lol jk but maybe Monahan frfr)
Trades
EDM
  1. Armia, Joel
  2. Kovacevic, Johnathan
  3. Montembeault, Samuel
Additional Details:
reasoning in description
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$83,500,000$79,776,249$1,170,000$4,210,000$3,723,751

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$2,900,000$2,900,000
C, LW
RFA - 4
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$7,875,000$7,875,000
C
UFA - 7
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
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$7,850,000$7,850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 8
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$1,985,000$1,985,000 (Performance Bonus$15,000$15K)
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
RW, LW
RFA - 2
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$4,450,000$4,450,000
C
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UFA - 2
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
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UFA - 4
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$812,500$812,500
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UFA - 2
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
C
UFA - 2
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$775,000$775,000
RW, LW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,875,000$4,875,000
LD
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UFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$275,000$275K)
RD
RFA - 1
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$1,925,000$1,925,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$3,900,000$3,900,000
RD
RFA - 2
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$890,000$890,000
G
RFA - 2
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$828,333$828,333
LD/RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$950,000$950,000
RD
RFA - 1
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 3
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$762,500$762,500
RD
UFA - 1
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$3,362,500$3,362,500
C, RW
RFA - 3

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Nov. 22, 2023 at 5:03 p.m.
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Going off what you said in the description, Montembeault is not worth a 1st + 3rd, and you also didn’t factor in that Armia is a cap dump either
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Nov. 22, 2023 at 5:05 p.m.
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3 goalies getting ‘paid’ nearly 20 million dollars is just insane
Nov. 22, 2023 at 5:05 p.m.
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I say no, and I hope the oilers would too. We should not use Bouchard to dump Campbell. That only makes our team worse, and Kovecevic doesn’t replace Bouchard in the top 4. Montembeault has never shown that he is a legitimate starter. All his career he’s been pretty meh, so no, he doesn’t grab you basically 3 firsts, and a second even with an extension! I would want an actual starter, and I also wouldn’t give more than a 3rd for Montembeault, MAYBE a second with an extension.
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Nov. 22, 2023 at 5:05 p.m.
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Oilers easily say no
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Nov. 22, 2023 at 5:06 p.m.
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Quoting: mv21227
Going off what you said in the description, Montembeault is not worth a 1st + 3rd, and you also didn’t factor in that Armia is a cap dump either


I think he is with a 3rd extension at a relatively low AAV
Nov. 22, 2023 at 5:19 p.m.
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Awful trade for Edmonton. Campbell's buyout cap hit next year is 1.1M trading him while taking back another albatross in Armia is counterproductive.

Montembeault doesn't even come remotely close to that value
Nov. 22, 2023 at 11:56 p.m.
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I would have to assume Edmonton says no in this scenario…
 
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