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Cheaper zadorov

Created by: Bennecon
Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 24, 2023
Published: Nov. 24, 2023
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He actually played pretty good in Toronto and played good with Rielly.
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  1. Lyubushkin, Ilya ($1,375,000 retained)
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  1. Hirvonen, Roni
  2. 2025 3rd round pick (TOR)
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2024
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23$83,500,000$79,753,117$0$0$3,746,883
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$4,150,000$4,150,000
RD
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Taxi Squad
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$775,000$775,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LD
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Nov. 24, 2023 at 10:14 p.m.
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I love it sign me up but no way he bumps Brodie or Lily when he returns well maybe Lily but who knows
Nov. 24, 2023 at 10:17 p.m.
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Quoting: Kinger25
I love it sign me up but no way he bumps Brodie or Lily when he returns well maybe Lily but who knows


I could see him play some time with Rielly cause it seems to work but Brodie moves up to fill the difference in ice time cause Lybushkin won’t be playing 20 to 22 minutes a night
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Nov. 24, 2023 at 10:20 p.m.
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Edited Nov. 24, 2023 at 10:33 p.m.
I wouldn't pay the extra fee for %50 retain.

Save that bribe for a better TDL player if needed.
Nov. 24, 2023 at 10:23 p.m.
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You’re not wrong, Buush is definitely a Cheaper & Lesser option for sure; kinda like McCabe who isn’t very good either

Neither bring it, nor will they contribute offensively or fight like Zadorov, but yes, definitely go the cheaper & lesser route, like Treliving typically does anyways
Nov. 24, 2023 at 10:31 p.m.
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Quoting: KingofRnR
You’re not wrong, Buush is definitely a Cheaper & Lesser option for sure; kinda like McCabe who isn’t very good either

Neither bring it, nor will they contribute offensively or fight like Zadorov, but yes, definitely go the cheaper & lesser route, like Treliving typically does anyways


Quoting: draft_em_sign_em_trade_em
I wouldn't pay the extra fee for %50 retain.

Same that bribe for a better TDL player if needed.


Quoting: Kinger25
I love it sign me up but no way he bumps Brodie or Lily when he returns well maybe Lily but who knows


We tried Bush already. He's not that good and he didn't fit well under Keefe. Big pass.
Nov. 24, 2023 at 10:34 p.m.
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Quoting: dougford
We tried Bush already. He's not that good and he didn't fit well under Keefe. Big pass.

What better can you get though given these guys’s budgets and tight wallets
Nov. 24, 2023 at 10:36 p.m.
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Quoting: KingofRnR
What better can you get though given these guys’s budgets and tight wallets


I'd be all in on Big Z but he'll cost us a decent amount
Nov. 24, 2023 at 10:39 p.m.
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Hirvonen + 3rd for him yea no lul

Give you a 3rd but thats it. As last TDL thats what a guy like this went for
Nov. 24, 2023 at 10:40 p.m.
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Quoting: draft_em_sign_em_trade_em
I wouldn't pay the extra fee for %50 retain.

Save that bribe for a better TDL player if needed.


To me it should be a 3rd and 5th to get him 50% ret not a 2nd round prospect in Hirvonen

Interesting option though just idk if hes the guy.
Nov. 24, 2023 at 10:46 p.m.
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Just give Calgary the 3rd and Hirvonen for Z...
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Nov. 24, 2023 at 10:46 p.m.
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Quoting: dougford
I'd be all in on Big Z but he'll cost us a decent amount

I’m glad you’re aware of that. Too many Looney Leafs going around here wanting him for their pocket change and soon to be castoffs & waiver wire losses
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Nov. 24, 2023 at 10:47 p.m.
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
Just give Calgary the 3rd and Hirvonen for Z...

That’s Not Happening lol

More like Holtz + Smith for Zadorov 50% Retained
Nov. 24, 2023 at 10:48 p.m.
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
Just give Calgary the 3rd and Hirvonen for Z...


I wish but on here in the made up world they don’t accept that even though that’s likely what he goes for
Nov. 24, 2023 at 10:50 p.m.
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Quoting: Kinger25
I wish but on here in the made up world they don’t accept that even though that’s likely what he goes for


Exactly...
(maybe different prospect...but same price)
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Nov. 24, 2023 at 10:50 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
To me it should be a 3rd and 5th to get him 50% ret not a 2nd round prospect in Hirvonen

Interesting option though just idk if hes the guy.


I am all in on this idea until I see a trade go through in the real world if the leafs do acquire tanev and zadorov as they’ve been rumoured to be in on so I’m sure they’ll grab them up but until then I’m gonna steal this idea
Nov. 24, 2023 at 10:53 p.m.
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Quoting: Kinger25
I wish but on here in the made up world they don’t accept that even though that’s likely what he goes for


Quoting: KingofRnR
I’m glad you’re aware of that. Too many Looney Leafs going around here wanting him for their pocket change and soon to be castoffs & waiver wire losses


I think what other Toronto fans struggle to grasp is that GM's love to salivate over big and physical defenseman.

My friend Kinger seems to be convinced a 3rd is all it'll take to acquire Zadorov, when it'll simply take more than that.
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Nov. 24, 2023 at 10:56 p.m.
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Quoting: dougford
I think what other Toronto fans struggle to grasp is that GM's love to salivate over big and physical defenseman.

My friend Kinger seems to be convinced a 3rd is all it'll take to acquire Zadorov, when it'll simply take more than that.

He values Cheaper and Inferior players thinking they’re still worth their original Draft Positions and thus must be good, when they’re not…

Sad thing is he’s not the only one…
Nov. 24, 2023 at 10:57 p.m.
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Quoting: KingofRnR
He values Cheaper and Inferior players thinking they’re still worth their original Draft Positions and thus must be good, when they’re not…

Sad thing is he’s not the only one…


I saw my fanbase giving Jarnkrok away for free all summer, now he's suddenly worth a 2nd+. Why I'm not really active on here anymore
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Nov. 24, 2023 at 11:23 p.m.
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Quoting: dougford
I think what other Toronto fans struggle to grasp is that GM's love to salivate over big and physical defenseman.

My friend Kinger seems to be convinced a 3rd is all it'll take to acquire Zadorov, when it'll simply take more than that.


He might cost a 2nd+a prospect but I don't see getting any more, as he's the lesser of the 3 CGY defenders (they all bring different things but they are all defensemen who have some size to them) and there are only so many 1sts to go around. The Flames are supposedly looking for someone who can play in the lineup, so it's going to be someone who has some NHL experience or someone destroying the AHL is waiting for their chance from the Leafs it's guys like Holmberg, Steeves, maybe McMann, Abruzzese if he's acquired along with Tanev. I also don't think he's more valuable than McCabe who would have cost a 2nd+prospect without the multi-year 50% retention (retention on Zadorov would only cost a 4th/5th).

If Zadorov had term on his deal then maybe you would see an overpay for him just off his size, but don't be surprised if he does fetch only a 3rd+prospect (overall value being a 3rd+4th or two 3rds). He's more than likely to get too much money in FA than to get a ton of assets as a rental.

Quoting: dougford
I saw my fanbase giving Jarnkrok away for free all summer, now he's suddenly worth a 2nd+. Why I'm not really active on here anymore


People are going to value players differently but also you got to consider the situation in which they were moving the guy. A lot of people were moving Jarnkrok in the offseason for cap space, so he definitely wouldn't have gotten max value (whatever they considered that to be). In the case of Zadorov, if the Leafs are trying to acquire him well before the deadline along with Tanev, then they are probably looking at having to pay more for one if not both guys.
Nov. 24, 2023 at 11:29 p.m.
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I think what other Toronto fans struggle to grasp is that GM's love to salivate over big and physical defenseman.

My friend Kinger seems to be convinced a 3rd is all it'll take to acquire Zadorov, when it'll simply take more than that.


I think in a bidding war he brings back a 2nd and a 3rd or niemela and a 3rd at the most
 
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