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Huberdeau and Laine

Created by: MoxNix
Published: Nov. 27, 2023 at 11:11 a.m.
Salary Cap: $83,500,000
Season Days: 143/192 (74%)
Central Registry Determination: This trade has met the central registry's trade checklist

Logo of the Calgary FlamesCalgary Flames

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Huberdeau, JonathanCalgary FlamesNHL-$10,500,000011---214913--
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Laine, PatrikColumbus Blue JacketsNHL10%$7,830,000011---12314--
Bean, JakeColumbus Blue JacketsNHL-$2,333,333011---21123--
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$2,286,667214564369
Change$336,667111000
Final$2,623,334 (↑)22 (↑)46 (↑)65 (↑)3690-6-6

Logo of the Columbus Blue JacketsColumbus Blue Jackets

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Laine, PatrikColumbus Blue JacketsNHL10%$5,831,718011---12314--
Bean, JakeColumbus Blue JacketsNHL-$1,737,847011---21123--
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Huberdeau, JonathanCalgary FlamesNHL-$7,820,312011---214913--
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$3,810,4222346653612
Change-$250,747-1-1-1000
Final$3,559,675 (↓)22 (↓)45 (↓)64 (↓)3612066
Nov. 27, 2023 at 11:20 a.m.
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I think CLB takes this deal if the retention is on Bean instead of Laine. They're not going to take 10.5 and retain 10% on Laine for 2 more years after this.
Nov. 27, 2023 at 11:41 a.m.
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Jackets have no reason to trade for Huber, so hard pass
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Nov. 27, 2023 at 11:43 a.m.
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No chance CBJ retains of they are giving up that much or takes Huberdeau without retention. That's a pretty awful contract to take on without retention.

CBJ needs to concentrate on rebuilding with youth not adding another bad contract to Gaudreau.
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Nov. 27, 2023 at 11:30 p.m.
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Quoting: Windjammer
No chance CBJ retains of they are giving up that much or takes Huberdeau without retention. That's a pretty awful contract to take on without retention.

CBJ needs to concentrate on rebuilding with youth not adding another bad contract to Gaudreau.


Just have to say, nobody in their right mind would retain anything on that cap hit unless they are tear-down rebuilding and will have $10-20m in cap space at most times, and even then, it would only be around $1m max that I would do, just because it is that long a contract, and it would have to be a really sweet deal to make it worth holding even any dead cap at all 7 years later. Also, if someone is trading for Huberdeau, it isn't as a favor to Calgary, but because they think he'll be worth it.

That said, I think you're right, the Jackets should not want anything to do with him. Stay younger, and build it right. If they build it right and actually start becoming a winning team, that's when they'll fill the building and gain some emotional support from fans. Even in Calgary, during the "young guns era" of the late 90's, the building wasn't full, and you could find a ticket to any game you wanted. Suddenly after 2004, it was a run of sell-outs.

I'd hate to see the Jackets rush too quickly, muck it up, and end up having to start all over again in 5 years. Just do it right, even if it takes a bit longer. As Gordon Ramsay would say, a customer would rather wait for good food than get bad food quickly (paraphrase).
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Nov. 28, 2023 at 12:01 a.m.
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Just have to say, nobody in their right mind would retain anything on that cap hit unless they are tear-down rebuilding and will have $10-20m in cap space at most times, and even then, it would only be around $1m max that I would do, just because it is that long a contract, and it would have to be a really sweet deal to make it worth holding even any dead cap at all 7 years later. Also, if someone is trading for Huberdeau, it isn't as a favor to Calgary, but because they think he'll be worth it.

That said, I think you're right, the Jackets should not want anything to do with him. Stay younger, and build it right. If they build it right and actually start becoming a winning team, that's when they'll fill the building and gain some emotional support from fans. Even in Calgary, during the "young guns era" of the late 90's, the building wasn't full, and you could find a ticket to any game you wanted. Suddenly after 2004, it was a run of sell-outs.

I'd hate to see the Jackets rush too quickly, muck it up, and end up having to start all over again in 5 years. Just do it right, even if it takes a bit longer. As Gordon Ramsay would say, a customer would rather wait for good food than get bad food quickly (paraphrase).


I agree. I'm more just saying that retention would be required (although I agree that Calgary wouldn't retain that long) for JH to have such a positive return. Or, Calgary would have to take back equal or close to equal underperforming contracts in term and dollars.
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Nov. 28, 2023 at 12:33 a.m.
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I agree. I'm more just saying that retention would be required (although I agree that Calgary wouldn't retain that long) for JH to have such a positive return. Or, Calgary would have to take back equal or close to equal underperforming contracts in term and dollars.


Perhaps so.. which is why I would wait on Huberdeau. If he still can't pull it together by next season, then at least he's one year less. If he does, get a better return.
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