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Marner To Chicago

Created by: KingExLeafs
Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 27, 2023
Published: Nov. 27, 2023
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Marner and Bedard could light the league on fire in this decade.
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Jones, Seth
  2. Katchouk, Boris
  3. Perry, Corey ($2,000,000 retained)
  4. Raddysh, Taylor
  5. 2024 1st round pick (TBL)
  6. 2025 1st round pick (TOR)
2.
TOR
  1. Zadorov, Nikita ($1,800,000 retained)
CGY
  1. Robertson, Nicholas
  2. 2024 3rd round pick (NYI)
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$83,500,000$76,960,949$0$325,000$6,539,051
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$925,000$925,000
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
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$758,333$758,333
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
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$775,000$775,000
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$2,400,000$2,400,000
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-$1,225,000-$1,225,000 (Performance Bonus$325,000$325K)
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$766,667$766,667
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$1,950,000$1,950,000
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
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$3,550,000$3,550,000
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UFA - 1
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$800,000$800,000
LD
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
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$4,687,500$4,687,500
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$4,150,000$4,150,000
RD
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UFA - 1
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
RD
RFA - 1

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Nov. 27, 2023 at 7:49 p.m.
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MARNER WILL NOT BE TRADED AND PLUS HE WOULDN'T WAIVE HIS NO MOVEMENT CLAUSE TO PLAY IN CHICAGO
Nov. 27, 2023 at 8:07 p.m.
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Hawks aren’t giving up first rounders. Don’t worry, Bedard will still light up the league sans Marner.
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Nov. 27, 2023 at 8:10 p.m.
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We would just sign Willy in the summer if we wanted a leafs winger. Or better yet wait a year for Draisaitl
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Nov. 27, 2023 at 8:12 p.m.
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We would just sign Willy in the summer if we wanted a leafs winger. Or better yet wait a year for Draisaitl


Nylander is staying a Leaf. And Draisaitl will probably sign for a contender.
Nov. 27, 2023 at 8:25 p.m.
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Nylander is staying a Leaf. And Draisaitl will probably sign for a contender.


Keep in mind the Hawks will probably be one or damn close to it in the 2025-2026 season in the year he would be singing for
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Nov. 27, 2023 at 8:30 p.m.
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Keep in mind the Hawks will probably be one or damn close to it in the 2025-2026 season in the year he would be singing for


It is easy to tear down. It's hard to build a true contender. Getting Bedard was the easy part. I think the Hawks will be a playoff team by year 3 in Bedard's reign. But Draisaitl will have better options. As for Nylander, it'll be about the money. The Hawks will be one of the suitors.
Nov. 27, 2023 at 10:12 p.m.
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That an incredibly weak offer for Big-Z my friend

Need to add a 2nd far least for sure and I don’t see CGY having any interest in Robertson either
Nov. 27, 2023 at 10:45 p.m.
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That an incredibly weak offer for Big-Z my friend

Need to add a 2nd far least for sure and I don’t see CGY having any interest in Robertson either


Robertson is equivalent of a 2nd. And I presume Calgary would want to get younger and add supplementary scoring in their line up. Nicky Bobby checks both boxes. He's a better version of Coronato.
Nov. 27, 2023 at 10:48 p.m.
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Robertson is equivalent of a 2nd. And I presume Calgary would want to get younger and add supplementary scoring in their line up. Nicky Bobby checks both boxes. He's a better version of Coronato.

No, Robertson’s not worth any more than a 4th/5th Round Pick at Best MAYBE and he’s certainly not comparable to Coronato

Flames would not value Robertson at all actually, they already have Zary, Pospisil, Dube, Ruzicka, Pelletier and Honzek, so IOW there’s zero need, interest or want for overrated AHL’er Nick Robertson who’s Tiny and not wanted in CGY

Just because a guy was Drafted in the 2nd Eound doesn’t mean he keeps that value forever either
Nov. 27, 2023 at 10:56 p.m.
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No, Robertson’s not worth any more than a 4th/5th Round Pick at Best MAYBE and he’s certainly not comparable to Coronato

Flames would not value Robertson at all actually, they already have Zary, Pospisil, Dube, Ruzicka, Pelletier and Honzek, so IOW there’s zero need, interest or want for overrated AHL’er Nick Robertson who’s Tiny and not wanted in CGY

Just because a guy was Drafted in the 2nd Eound doesn’t mean he keeps that value forever either


With that type of mentality Flames fans will be very unhappy with any Zadorov return.
Nov. 27, 2023 at 10:58 p.m.
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With that type of mentality Flames fans will be very unhappy with any Zadorov return.

lol. Do you know how many Teams want Zadorov!?

Zadorov’s Trade comps are MTL’s Chiarot and CLB’s Savard and Gavrikov. He’s a 4.5-5.25mil/yr Defensemen. He’s Better than McCabe, so no, we won’t be disappointed kiddo
Nov. 27, 2023 at 11:02 p.m.
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Chicago laughs and hangs up; Marner is a free agent in another year, he's not netting this back from any team, and Chicago has no interest in paying a dime for a guy headed to free agency.
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Nov. 27, 2023 at 11:15 p.m.
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Chicago laughs and hangs up; Marner is a free agent in another year, he's not netting this back from any team, and Chicago has no interest in paying a dime for a guy headed to free agency.


Think of it as test driving a Ferrari. What if Marner doesn't work out in Chicago? I'm sure Columbus wishes they had Gaudreau for one year before committing long term to him at big money.
Nov. 27, 2023 at 11:18 p.m.
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lol. Do you know how many Teams want Zadorov!?

Zadorov’s Trade comps are MTL’s Chiarot and CLB’s Savard and Gavrikov. He’s a 4.5-5.25mil/yr Defensemen. He’s Better than McCabe, so no, we won’t be disappointed kiddo


Savard and Gavrikov are shutdown defencemen. That's why they cost more. Zadorov is not that. He's more of a gambler out there, hitting anything that moves and scoring goals. He's better than McCabe, sure, but no team is giving a 1st or even a 2nd for his services.
Nov. 27, 2023 at 11:29 p.m.
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Savard and Gavrikov are shutdown defencemen. That's why they cost more. Zadorov is not that. He's more of a gambler out there, hitting anything that moves and scoring goals. He's better than McCabe, sure, but no team is giving a 1st or even a 2nd for his services.

I noticed you left Chiarot out of that one... Savard doesn’t shut anything down, look at his +/- when he’s on the ice at Even Strength

Zadorov is Younger and Better than Chiarot & Savard were when they were Traded and even if Gavrikov is better defensively, the amount of Size, Physicality, Enforcement and Scoring Zadorov brings to the table is MORE than enough to offset and put his value over Gavrikov’s too

If you don’t like him, quite Trading for him and putting him in your Top-4 already 🤦‍♂️
Nov. 27, 2023 at 11:35 p.m.
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I noticed you left Chiarot out of that one... Savard doesn’t shut anything down, look at his +/- when he’s on the ice at Even Strength

Zadorov is Younger and Better than Chiarot & Savard were when they were Traded and even if Gavrikov is better defensively, the amount of Size, Physicality, Enforcement and Scoring Zadorov brings to the table is MORE than enough to offset and put his value over Gavrikov’s too

If you don’t like him, quite Trading for him and putting him in your Top-4 already 🤦‍♂️


He’ll be a great addition to the Leafs. And I'm confident Treliving will trade for him a second time.

By the way, the last time he traded for him it only cost the Flames a 3rd round pick.

I think Treliving will be nice to his former assistant and add a 5th this time around.
Nov. 27, 2023 at 11:46 p.m.
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He’ll be a great addition to the Leafs. And I'm confident Treliving will trade for him a second time.

By the way, the last time he traded for him it only cost the Flames a 3rd round pick.

I think Treliving will be nice to his former assistant and add a 5th this time around.

What we acquired Zadorov for is irrelevant for a few reasons, but the main one being he’s a substantially better player now. Look at his on ice stats from before and after joining the Flames Zadorov Natural Stat Trick

Pro Tip here, so pay attention. Player Trade Values are low in the off-season given the amount of Free Agents available, it increases during the season and reaches its highest at the Trade Deadline

Next pay attention to what the market is. How many other 6’6 250lbs 2nd Pairing D-Men are available for Trade Right now and how many Teams are interested in him!?

We have 1 Zadorov and as least 16 Playoff Teams will be competing for his services come the Deadline. What do you think gonna happen!? Hint: Bidding War

Listen, you want him for a reason and pretty much every team in the NHL wants and could use a guy like Zadorov. Unlike Left Shot Forwards, who are as Ike a dozen, Huge Skilled Defensemen are very very rare by comparison
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Nov. 27, 2023 at 11:57 p.m.
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What we acquired Zadorov for is irrelevant for a few reasons, but the main one being he’s a substantially better player now. Look at his on ice stats from before and after joining the Flames Zadorov Natural Stat Trick

Pro Tip here, so pay attention. Player Trade Values are low in the off-season given the amount of Free Agents available, it increases during the season and reaches its highest at the Trade Deadline

Next pay attention to what the market is. How many other 6’6 250lbs 2nd Pairing D-Men are available for Trade Right now and how many Teams are interested in him!?

We have 1 Zadorov and as least 16 Playoff Teams will be competing for his services come the Deadline. What do you think gonna happen!? Hint: Bidding War

Listen, you want him for a reason and pretty much every team in the NHL wants and could use a guy like Zadorov. Unlike Left Shot Forwards, who are as Ike a dozen, Huge Skilled Defensemen are very very rare by comparison


Dime a dozen? So are UFA 5th-6th defencemen.

Teams trade their 1sts and top assets for bonafide top 4 guys who chew up minutes. Also right shot D cost a lot more.

Again, Zadorov would be a great add. I see him as an upgrade on McCabe, but let's keep things in perspective. He's still a bottom pairing LD UFA at the end of the day.
Nov. 28, 2023 at 12:09 a.m.
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Dime a dozen? So are UFA 5th-6th defencemen.

Teams trade their 1sts and top assets for bonafide top 4 guys who chew up minutes. Also right shot D cost a lot more.

Again, Zadorov would be a great add. I see him as an upgrade on McCabe, but let's keep things in perspective. He's still a bottom pairing LD UFA at the end of the day.

You know that Zadorov’s Agent thinks he’s the Best Flames Defensemen right now and that he deserves more minutes, right!? That’s the entire reason he put out that stupid tweet suggesting Zadorov should join a new team

This is your post man, did you forget you put Zadorov at 2LD in your Top-4 or are you really just that unaware and clueless all the time!? Are you expecting him to play the same minutes at 2LD in TOR as he plays in CGY!?

Oh I get it, you’re just playing dumb and going with the “he’s a 5th Defensemen” to try and devalue and justify your low ball offer, but in reality you know he’s a Top-4, so insert him there in your lineup…

Admit you are either confused or don’t have a clue how to value Zadorov, because either way, you have nothing to support your argument or valuation of Zadorov and everything you brought up by saying he’s a Bottom-Pairing D-Man was DESTROYED (like your credibility here by the way) when you put him your lineup in the Top-4 at 2LD…
Nov. 28, 2023 at 12:22 a.m.
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You know that Zadorov’s Agent thinks he’s the Best Flames Defensemen right now and that he deserves more minutes, right!? That’s the entire reason he put out that stupid tweet suggesting Zadorov should join a new team

This is your post man, did you forget you put Zadorov at 2LD in your Top-4 or are you really just that unaware and clueless all the time!? Are you expecting him to play the same minutes at 2LD in TOR as he plays in CGY!?

Oh I get it, you’re just playing dumb and going with the “he’s a 5th Defensemen” to try and devalue and justify your low ball offer, but in reality you know he’s a Top-4, so insert him there in your lineup…

Admit you are either confused or don’t have a clue how to value Zadorov, because either way, you have nothing to support your argument or valuation of Zadorov and everything you brought up by saying he’s a Bottom-Pairing D-Man was DESTROYED (like your credibility here by the way) when you put him your lineup in the Top-4 at 2LD…


He's an upgrade on McCabe and Gio so he will slide in behind Rielly if he's acquired. But ideally Treliving gets a couple of bonafide top 4 guys which will slide Zadorov down to the third pair, where his game is more suited for success.
Nov. 28, 2023 at 12:25 a.m.
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He's an upgrade on McCabe and Gio so he will slide in behind Rielly if he's acquired. But ideally Treliving gets a couple of bonafide top 4 guys which will slide Zadorov down to the third pair, where his game is more suited for success.

Leafs don’t have and/or won’t give up any Valuable Trade Pieces, so Good Luck With That 👍
Nov. 28, 2023 at 12:55 a.m.
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1 year of marner isn't worth half that package.
Nov. 28, 2023 at 7:21 a.m.
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Think of it as test driving a Ferrari. What if Marner doesn't work out in Chicago? I'm sure Columbus wishes they had Gaudreau for one year before committing long term to him at big money.


You think a team pays that much to "test drive" a pending UFA for one year? That trade would be the worst possible use of assets. Gaudreau will be fine. Jarmo Kekalainen is just a child with no real plan or vision, just throwing crap at the wall and hoping it sticks. I probably wouldn't even trade Jones for Marner 1 for 1. Not because I think Marner is bad or lacks value, but because he is a pending UFA that, if CHI has interest in him, we could just wait a year, see if he makes it to free agency, and not give up anything for.
 
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