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Rebuilding

Created by: Ross_Johnston
Team: 2023-24 New York Islanders
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 29, 2023
Published: Nov. 29, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
NYI
  1. Kulich, Jiri
  2. Olofsson, Victor
  3. Peterka, John-Jason
  4. 2024 1st round pick (BUF)
  5. 2026 1st round pick (BUF)
2.
NYI
  1. 2025 2nd round pick (VAN)
VAN
  1. Olofsson, Victor ($2,250,000 retained)
3.
NYI
  1. 2024 4th round pick (NYR)
NYR
  1. Clutterbuck, Cal ($850,000 retained)
4.
NYI
  1. 2025 5th round pick (COL)
COL
  1. Martin, Matt ($750,000 retained)
5.
NYI
  1. 2026 2nd round pick (DAL)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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Logo of the VAN
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Logo of the COL
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2026
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Logo of the DAL
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$83,500,000$70,574,999$0$32,500$12,925,001
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$855,833$855,833 (Performance Bonus$32,500$32K)
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$8,500,000$8,500,000
C
NTC
UFA - 8
Logo of the New York Islanders
$5,000,000$5,000,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$918,333$918,333
C, LW
RFA - 3
Logo of the New York Islanders
$6,000,000$6,000,000
C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the New York Islanders
$3,000,000$3,000,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 7
Logo of the New York Islanders
$7,000,000$7,000,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the New York Islanders
$5,000,000$5,000,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the New York Islanders
$863,333$863,333
RW
RFA - 1
Logo of the New York Islanders
$2,500,000$2,500,000
C
UFA - 4
Logo of the New York Islanders
$787,500$787,500
RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LD
RFA - 2
Logo of the New York Islanders
$6,150,000$6,150,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 7
Logo of the New York Islanders
$4,000,000$4,000,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the New York Islanders
$1,000,000$1,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the New York Islanders
$4,000,000$4,000,000
RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the New York Islanders
$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the New York Islanders
$800,000$800,000
LD
RFA - 2
Logo of the New York Islanders
$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 7
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the New York Islanders
$775,000$775,000
RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the New York Islanders
$5,750,000$5,750,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 6
Logo of the New York Islanders
$825,000$825,000
LD
UFA - 1

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Nov. 29, 2023 at 12:22 p.m.
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Rangers don’t want or need clutterbuck
Nov. 29, 2023 at 12:24 p.m.
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Quoting: Rags21
Rangers don’t want or need clutterbuck


cool
Nov. 29, 2023 at 12:35 p.m.
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Sabres have zero need to make this trade but also that's way too much for barzal.
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Nov. 29, 2023 at 12:39 p.m.
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Sabres have zero need to make this trade but also that's way too much for barzal.


is it?
Nov. 29, 2023 at 12:47 p.m.
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Avs are all set at bottom 6.
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Nov. 29, 2023 at 12:51 p.m.
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Quoting: Rags21
Rangers don’t want or need clutterbuck


cool
Nov. 29, 2023 at 12:55 p.m.
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Quoting: Missouri
cool


Pens can have him
Nov. 29, 2023 at 1:18 p.m.
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Quoting: Ross_Johnston
is it?


Sabres almost say no to Barzal for Peterka 1 for 1
Nov. 29, 2023 at 1:58 p.m.
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Quoting: Ross_Johnston
is it?



You can take this with a grain of salt because I'm a NYR fan, but Barzal is being paid like a top center in the league without actually being a top center in the league. By no means am I saying he's not a good player. In the right situation, I belive he could definitely be that 80-90 point player, but the islanders have not provided him with enough of a supporting cast since Tavares left for him to be able to hit that, nor have they given him a coach that's offensively minded (and he also hasn't proved that yet). Any team buying him, would hope that he could hit that next level by providing him with a better cast/coach. I think he would absolutely thrive/feast if he were traded to NYR but that'll just never happen.

Now in regards to the trade proposed, it is a massive overpayment from Buffalo not only because the players they'd be giving up but also because they are set at center with Thompson/Cozens/Middlestadt. They just aren't the right trade partner.

In terms of Barzal's value, you would likely be looking at a return around the same as the PLD trade (young roster player, player to make the cap work, decent prospect and a 2nd) or the Debrincat trade (young roster player, prospect, 1st and 4th), or even similarly to what Isles gave up for Horvat (1st, prospect and roster player).


My hypotheticals:
MTL: Newhook+Barron+ Conditional/Protected 1st
DET: Copp/Compher, Kasper, 1st
CBJ: Johnson, Boqvist+2nd
NYR just for fun: Chytil, Kakko, Goodrow + Jones + 1st (assuming Chytil/Kakko can pass physicals when they return from injuries)
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Nov. 29, 2023 at 2:33 p.m.
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Canucks decline. They just traded Beauvillier because they had too many wingers and too much money locked up in the position, no interest in adding another winger to make the logjam worse again.
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Nov. 29, 2023 at 3:23 p.m.
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Quoting: GM69
You can take this with a grain of salt because I'm a NYR fan, but Barzal is being paid like a top center in the league without actually being a top center in the league. By no means am I saying he's not a good player. In the right situation, I belive he could definitely be that 80-90 point player, but the islanders have not provided him with enough of a supporting cast since Tavares left for him to be able to hit that, nor have they given him a coach that's offensively minded (and he also hasn't proved that yet). Any team buying him, would hope that he could hit that next level by providing him with a better cast/coach. I think he would absolutely thrive/feast if he were traded to NYR but that'll just never happen.

Now in regards to the trade proposed, it is a massive overpayment from Buffalo not only because the players they'd be giving up but also because they are set at center with Thompson/Cozens/Middlestadt. They just aren't the right trade partner.

In terms of Barzal's value, you would likely be looking at a return around the same as the PLD trade (young roster player, player to make the cap work, decent prospect and a 2nd) or the Debrincat trade (young roster player, prospect, 1st and 4th), or even similarly to what Isles gave up for Horvat (1st, prospect and roster player).


My hypotheticals:
MTL: Newhook+Barron+ Conditional/Protected 1st
DET: Copp/Compher, Kasper, 1st
CBJ: Johnson, Boqvist+2nd
NYR just for fun: Chytil, Kakko, Goodrow + Jones + 1st (assuming Chytil/Kakko can pass physicals when they return from injuries)


Very interesting proposals. Thank you for sharing
Nov. 29, 2023 at 5:37 p.m.
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Quoting: Rags21
Pens can have him


We have Carter. Don't need another old fart on the team
Nov. 29, 2023 at 6:40 p.m.
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We have Carter. Don't need another old fart on the team


Rangers have Bonino and extreme anchor goodrow 😂
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Nov. 30, 2023 at 9:23 p.m.
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Rangers have Bonino and extreme anchor goodrow 😂


I’d rather have Bones and Goodrow over Carter. Trade you?? Haha 😛
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