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Created by: BluesReport18
Team: 2024-25 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 29, 2023
Published: Nov. 29, 2023
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It's actually insane how loaded Buffalo is with forward prospects and talent. All they need is for some players to mature a bit and to add defense and an elite goalie. Could Levi be elite in the future, maybe, but in this deal they get a top 3 goalie for 8 years.
Free Agent Signings
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1$800,000
1$800,000
1$900,000
4$2,000,000
6$5,800,000
4$3,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$4,000,000
3$2,000,000
Trades
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  1. Sorokin, Ilya
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If the Islanders rebuild this would be a good trade for Sorokin. Goalie values are hard to predict but in this trade they get a future top line winger/center, a top 4 defender, a future number 1 goalie, and a top 16 pick. That's a pretty crazy return.
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2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$87,500,000$87,024,403$0$1,500,000$475,597
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$9,000,000$9,000,000
LW, RW
NMC
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$7,142,857$7,142,857
C
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
RW, LW
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UFA - 2
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$855,833$855,833
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$7,100,000$7,100,000
C, LW
UFA - 6
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW, LW
RFA - 1
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$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$650,000$650K)
LW
RFA - 2
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$5,800,000$5,800,000
LW, C
RFA
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$918,333$918,333
C, LW
RFA - 2
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$900,000$900,000
C, LW
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
RW, C
UFA
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$800,000$800,000
LW
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Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 8
$4,000,000$4,000,000
RD
UFA
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$8,250,000$8,250,000
G
NMC
UFA - 8
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$925,000$925,000
LD
RFA - 1
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$8,350,000$8,350,000
LD/RD
UFA - 7
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
G
RFA
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$4,285,714$4,285,714
LD
UFA - 6
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$3,333,333$3,333,333
RD
UFA - 2
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$800,000$800,000
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Nov. 29, 2023 at 4:19 p.m.
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So many big contracts given out to depth players makes the sorokin trade hard to stomach. Locked into cap jail
Nov. 29, 2023 at 4:19 p.m.
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That's not enough for arguably the best goalie in the league signed to a very reasonable number for 8 years.
Nov. 29, 2023 at 4:20 p.m.
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When has a goalie ever received that type of return in a trade? You're not getting both Levi and savoie
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Nov. 29, 2023 at 4:20 p.m.
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That's not enough for arguably the best goalie in the league signed to a very reasonable number for 8 years.


Lmao
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Nov. 29, 2023 at 4:21 p.m.
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Lmao


Not even going to entertain discussing anything with you since it's basically trying to talk to a wall.
Nov. 29, 2023 at 5:45 p.m.
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When has a goalie ever received that type of return in a trade? You're not getting both Levi and savoie


Agreed. I think as good as sorokin is, it would show gross incompetence on adams part. To me, it would say that adams chose to sit on his hands with below average goaltending, and when it didn't work, rather than try to acquire a more reasonable goaltender, he chose to insanely overpay for a top 3 goalie. For Christ's sake, it doesn't have to be either below average or crazy expensive all star good. The idea that Buffalo should move about a bunch of high end prospects, because they have them is ridiculous.
Nov. 29, 2023 at 5:50 p.m.
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Quoting: PenGoater99
Not even going to entertain discussing anything with you since it's basically trying to talk to a wall.


Talking to a wall would be more entertaining than reading your comments
Nov. 29, 2023 at 6:34 p.m.
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As long as Lou's there, they're not rebuilding.
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Nov. 29, 2023 at 6:43 p.m.
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Quoting: PenGoater99
That's not enough for arguably the best goalie in the league signed to a very reasonable number for 8 years.


I mean goalies are voodoo and he isn’t having a good season already. That $8m kicks in when he’s 29 so it likely won’t age well (Quick, Bob, etc.)

I really hope the rangers go short term with Igor or sell him for a haul and not follow the islanders
Nov. 29, 2023 at 7:16 p.m.
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I mean goalies are voodoo and he isn’t having a good season already. That $8m kicks in when he’s 29 so it likely won’t age well (Quick, Bob, etc.)

I really hope the rangers go short term with Igor or sell him for a haul and not follow the islanders


yea goalies in general are voodoo, but not the elite of the elite like Sorokin, Shesterkin, Saros, etc etc.

Guy has been at worst a top 3 goalie in the league for the past few years now. He is quite literally the only reason the Islanders aren't a bottom 5 team.
Nov. 29, 2023 at 7:19 p.m.
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Quoting: PenGoater99
yea goalies in general are voodoo, but not the elite of the elite like Sorokin, Shesterkin, Saros, etc etc.

Guy has been at worst a top 3 goalie in the league for the past few years now. He is quite literally the only reason the Islanders aren't a bottom 5 team.


Yea but Quick and Bob were top 5 at one point and look how the back end of those contracts looked
Nov. 29, 2023 at 7:40 p.m.
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Sabres get stuck paying Sorokin a big contract. Not something they'd be interested in, especially for someone that will probably hate moving from Long Island to Buffalo
Nov. 29, 2023 at 10:16 p.m.
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Quoting: wojme
When has a goalie ever received that type of return in a trade? You're not getting both Levi and savoie


Typically i agree
BUT
He’s signed to an 8year extension after this season

I don’t think the Isles consider moving him unless it is for a package like this


And i think I’d do it btw….
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Nov. 29, 2023 at 10:17 p.m.
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Quoting: PenGoater99
Not even going to entertain discussing anything with you since it's basically trying to talk to a wall.


Ooooooohhhhh…. sick burn bro!
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Nov. 29, 2023 at 10:19 p.m.
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Agreed. I think as good as sorokin is, it would show gross incompetence on adams part. To me, it would say that adams chose to sit on his hands with below average goaltending, and when it didn't work, rather than try to acquire a more reasonable goaltender, he chose to insanely overpay for a top 3 goalie. For Christ's sake, it doesn't have to be either below average or crazy expensive all star good. The idea that Buffalo should move about a bunch of high end prospects, because they have them is ridiculous.


I hear ya
But that’s likely about what it would take to get Sorokin
And with all the other talent we have,
a move like that could make us legit contenders with another tweak or 2

I think I’d do it
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Nov. 29, 2023 at 10:20 p.m.
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I mean goalies are voodoo and he isn’t having a good season already. That $8m kicks in when he’s 29 so it likely won’t age well (Quick, Bob, etc.)

I really hope the rangers go short term with Igor or sell him for a haul and not follow the islanders


Would u take the above package for him ?
Nov. 29, 2023 at 10:22 p.m.
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As a Sabres fan, i think it’s an interesting idea to at least contemplate
Nov. 29, 2023 at 10:25 p.m.
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Quoting: AntiAnalytics
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As a Sabres fan, i think it’s an interesting idea to at least contemplate


Agreed my thought process was Buffalo has so many prospects and not all of them can make it so they might as well turn those prospects into someone that will get them to the playoffs like Sorokin.
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Nov. 29, 2023 at 10:28 p.m.
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Would u take the above package for him ?


I don’t know maybe. I’d have to see what they need and don’t need after next year when Igor’s deal is up. Levi would definitely be a piece coming over because Allaire would build him up like Lundqvist

The tough part would be keeping Igor in the East and having to play against him haha
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Nov. 30, 2023 at 12:05 p.m.
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Ooooooohhhhh…. sick burn bro!


Thanks. It's nice to know that you're essentially admitting I'm right.
Nov. 30, 2023 at 12:08 p.m.
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Yea but Quick and Bob were top 5 at one point and look how the back end of those contracts looked


Sorokin has been so much better than them than they were at the same points in their careers, if that makes sense.

In other words, Sorokin up until this point in his career, has been far better than Quick and Bobrovsky were at the same point in their respective careers.
Nov. 30, 2023 at 12:11 p.m.
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Thanks. It's nice to know that you're essentially admitting I'm right.


Nah, you’re just absurdly trolling
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Nov. 30, 2023 at 12:18 p.m.
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Sorokin has been so much better than them than they were at the same points in their careers, if that makes sense.

In other words, Sorokin up until this point in his career, has been far better than Quick and Bobrovsky were at the same point in their respective careers.


I mean even so, Sorokin is gonna decline at some point. Same for Vasi and Igor. As a GM, you just don’t want that decline to start in the beginning of an 8 year contract
Nov. 30, 2023 at 12:22 p.m.
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I mean even so, Sorokin is gonna decline at some point. Same for Vasi and Igor. As a GM, you just don’t want that decline to start in the beginning of an 8 year contract


Yea but with his sample of work so far, you can probably bet that it won't happen for at least another 5-6 years. Goalies are random, but the fact that Sorokin has been franchise altering ever since he entered the league, you can bet on him still being elite for at least the next 5-6 years. If you're a GM that needs to make a move to really get your team in contention, this is the type of move you have to make. You trade picks and prospects for the proven player every single time.
Nov. 30, 2023 at 12:24 p.m.
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Talking to a wall would be more entertaining than reading your comments


Yet you still do that, don't you? Nice one you dumb f*ck
 
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