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Wifi and Kovacevic and Larsson

Created by: TMLBRIAN
Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 8, 2023
Published: Dec. 8, 2023
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Are both fan bases about to go crazy on me?

Seattle gets the younger D who has a good potential. Leafs get the big, physical, defensive dman they need for this year and next.

Thoughts?
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. 2024 1st round pick (TOR)
2.
TOR
  1. Larsson, Adam ($1,000,000 retained)
SEA
  1. Liljegren, Timothy
  2. 2025 3rd round pick (TOR)
  3. 2026 3rd round pick (TOR)
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,500,000$83,426,450$0$0$73,550
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
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UFA - 1
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$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
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UFA - 2
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 1
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 2
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$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
NMC
UFA - 1
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$796,667$796,667
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
C, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$775,000$775,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$2,400,000$2,400,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$762,500$762,500
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UFA - 1
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$1,350,000$1,350,000
RW
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Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$7,500,000$7,500,000
LD
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UFA - 7
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$766,667$766,667
G
RFA - 2
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$3,550,000$3,550,000
G
UFA - 1
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$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$766,667$766,667
RD
UFA - 2
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$828,333$828,333
LD/RD
RFA - 1
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$4,687,500$4,687,500
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$4,150,000$4,150,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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Dec. 8, 2023 at 7:59 p.m.
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It’s clear to say that Montreal and Seattle will say “no” to these trades.
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Dec. 8, 2023 at 8:04 p.m.
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Yeah I don’t know about these
Dec. 8, 2023 at 8:04 p.m.
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Leafs lose both these trades IMO
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Dec. 8, 2023 at 8:10 p.m.
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Yeah I don’t know about these


Could you imagine if this happened though? Haha
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Dec. 8, 2023 at 8:11 p.m.
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Could you imagine if this happened though? Haha


Could be actually worth it for sure
Dec. 8, 2023 at 8:14 p.m.
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Leafs lose both of these unfortunately, Liljegren could be better than larsson and Xhekaj is horrible, we could spend our assets elsewhere
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Dec. 8, 2023 at 8:16 p.m.
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Quoting: justinhollfan3
Leafs lose both of these unfortunately, Liljegren could be better than larsson and Xhekaj is horrible, we could spend our assets elsewhere


lol
Dec. 8, 2023 at 8:16 p.m.
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Leafs lose both these trades IMO


lol
Dec. 8, 2023 at 8:17 p.m.
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Hard hard no to the habs trade
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Dec. 8, 2023 at 8:19 p.m.
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I don't think the Habs would trade 2 young core dmen for a late 1st. No value in maybe prospects at this stage of the rebuild.
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Dec. 8, 2023 at 8:20 p.m.
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Bith teams decline. The habs one is kinda close (even if highly unlikely) and Seattle laugh and block your number
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Dec. 8, 2023 at 8:20 p.m.
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lol


Whats so funny lol xhekaj isnt good at hockey
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Dec. 8, 2023 at 8:21 p.m.
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Quoting: justinhollfan3
Whats so funny lol xhekaj isnt good at hockey


thanks for your opinion.
Dec. 8, 2023 at 8:24 p.m.
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Bith teams decline. The habs one is kinda close (even if highly unlikely) and Seattle laugh and block your number


I view Lily as a late 1st rounder. So late 1st rounder and 2 x 3rds for Larsson with 25% retention. Of course Seattle would need to really like Lily.
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Dec. 8, 2023 at 8:27 p.m.
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Quoting: SLAFSQUATCH
thanks for your opinion.


I mean you're the one who started the whole thing lol
Dec. 8, 2023 at 8:30 p.m.
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I view Lily as a late 1st rounder. So late 1st rounder and 2 x 3rds for Larsson with 25% retention. Of course Seattle would need to really like Lily.

I value Lily has more of a third rounder. Has he been good this season? Cuz before last season he was awful and not looking to get better. Anyway, a first and 2 third isn’t enough for unretained Larsson.
Dec. 8, 2023 at 8:30 p.m.
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Quoting: justinhollfan3
I mean you're the one who started the whole thing lol


*thumbs up!
Dec. 8, 2023 at 8:33 p.m.
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Quoting: TMLBRIAN
I view Lily as a late 1st rounder. So late 1st rounder and 2 x 3rds for Larsson with 25% retention. Of course Seattle would need to really like Lily.


umm Liljegren has late 3rd maybe 4th round value.
Dec. 8, 2023 at 8:35 p.m.
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I value Lily has more of a third rounder. Has he been good this season? Cuz before last season he was awful and not looking to get better. Anyway, a first and 2 third isn’t enough for unretained Larsson.


Omg I’ve lost all respect for you with that statement sandin when he was sold was worse then Lily is now Lily gets a first all day long could probably take a 5th too for the leafs to actually let him go
Dec. 8, 2023 at 8:35 p.m.
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umm Liljegren has late 3rd maybe 4th round value.



Omg lol
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Dec. 8, 2023 at 8:36 p.m.
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umm Liljegren has late 3rd maybe 4th round value.


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I value Lily has more of a third rounder. Has he been good this season? Cuz before last season he was awful and not looking to get better. Anyway, a first and 2 third isn’t enough for unretained Larsson.


To put it in perspective, most Leaf fans would rather give up our 2024 1st, than give Lily away. Of course there are some who disagree but most of us would prefer keeping Lily over our 1st.
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Omg I’ve lost all respect for you with that statement sandin when he was sold was worse then Lily is now Lily gets a first all day long could probably take a 5th too for the leafs to actually let him go


Sandin had more points, is younger, better defensively. Liljegren doesn’t get a first. Durzi got a second and he is way better. A good comparison would be Siegenthaler who got a third
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Quoting: TMLBRIAN
To put it in perspective, most Leaf fans would rather give up our 2024 1st, than give Lily away. Of course there are some who disagree but most of us would prefer keeping Lily over our 1st.


I understand. He has long lost his first round pedigree. And giving up on him wold be essentially forfeiting a mid 1st. But irrationally maintaining that lost dreamy nostalgic value doesn't equate in trades. But, what do I know. Xhekaj isn't an NHLer lol :P
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Sandin had more points, is younger, better defensively. Liljegren doesn’t get a first. Durzi got a second and he is way better. A good comparison would be Siegenthaler who got a third


Seig is a top teir defensie dman.

Liljegren is a dime a dozen, Just about every team has one.
Dec. 8, 2023 at 8:42 p.m.
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To put it in perspective, most Leaf fans would rather give up our 2024 1st, than give Lily away. Of course there are some who disagree but most of us would prefer keeping Lily over our 1st.


We would rather give a first than Xhekaj. Does that mean he is worth a first? Last year, most of us would have rather give a first than Anderson. Was he worth more?
 
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