SalarySwishSalarySwish
Forums/Armchair-GM

Drastic times

Created by: GuentzelvaniaUSA
Team: 2023-24 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 9, 2023
Published: Dec. 9, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
PIT
  1. Kane, Evander
  2. 2025 3rd round pick (EDM)
2.
PIT
  1. 2024 1st round pick (LAK)
3.
MTL
  1. 2025 3rd round pick (PIT)
4.
SEA
  1. 2024 2nd round pick (PIT)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
Logo of the LAK
Logo of the PIT
Logo of the PIT
Logo of the PIT
Logo of the NYR
2025
Logo of the PIT
Logo of the EDM
Logo of the PIT
Logo of the PIT
Logo of the PIT
Logo of the PIT
2026
Logo of the PIT
Logo of the PIT
Logo of the PIT
Logo of the SJS
Logo of the PIT
Logo of the PIT
Logo of the PIT
Logo of the PIT
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,500,000$82,089,342$0$15,000$1,410,658
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$5,125,000$5,125,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$8,700,000$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$925,000$925,000
LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$6,100,000$6,100,000
C
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$5,125,000$5,125,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Seattle Kraken
$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$2,450,000$2,450,000
C
UFA - 2
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$2,000,000$2,000,000
C, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$900,000$900,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,985,000$1,985,000 (Performance Bonus$15,000$15K)
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$775,000$775,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$3,125,000$3,125,000
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$4,025,175$4,025,175
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$10,000,000$10,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$5,375,000$5,375,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$4,500,000$4,500,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 6
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$6,100,000$6,100,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$1,500,000$1,500,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$775,000$775,000
LD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$800,000$800,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$825,000$825,000
LD
RFA - 1
Taxi Squad
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$775,000$775,000 ($0$0$0$0)
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$850,000$850,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$775,000$775,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$775,000$775,000 ($0$0$0$0)
RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$775,000$775,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$775,000$775,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$775,000$775,000 ($0$0$0$0)
RW, LW
UFA - 1

Embed Code

  • To display this team on another website or blog, add this iFrame to the appropriate page
  • Customize the height attribute in the iFrame code below to fit your website appropriately. Minimum recommended: 400px.

Text-Embed

Click to Highlight
Dec. 9, 2023 at 10:29 p.m.
#1
Once a Kings Fan Too
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jun. 2018
Posts: 41,636
Likes: 26,361
Edmonton wouldn't want the remainder of Guentzel's season in exchange for two seasons plus of Evander Kane, who has an absolute NMC anyway, never mind the difference in cap hits or the draft pick on the wrong side (which wouldn't be a third, either).

Why would the forward-rich, top-5-in-the-league-offensively Kings want Rickard Rakell for free?
Dec. 9, 2023 at 10:34 p.m.
#2
Thread Starter
Pengweenies
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jun. 2015
Posts: 1,980
Likes: 293
Quoting: OldNYIfan
Edmonton wouldn't want the remainder of Guentzel's season in exchange for two seasons plus of Evander Kane, who has an absolute NMC anyway, never mind the difference in cap hits or the draft pick on the wrong side (which wouldn't be a third, either).

Why would the forward-rich, top-5-in-the-league-offensively Kings want Rickard Rakell for free?


Guentzel is a 40 goal scorer. I’d presume Edmonton would extend him. That’s on them if they don’t want a 40 goal scorer next to McDavid for the next half decade. Honestly, Pittsburgh is losing way way more in that trade, I just would be willing to do it for the change in style. I’m not gunna sit here and argue if you actually think evander Kane has more value than Jake freaking Guentzel

Why would a potential cup contender not want to add at the deadline a 25-30 goal scorer 💀????
Dec. 9, 2023 at 10:38 p.m.
#3
FKA Bigtittielarper
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jun. 2020
Posts: 7,778
Likes: 2,239
LA declines every day of the week lol
Fran615 and OldNYIfan liked this.
Dec. 9, 2023 at 11:00 p.m.
#4
Avatar of the user
Joined: Apr. 2018
Posts: 1,360
Likes: 573
Quoting: SomeonesOffended
LA declines every day of the week lol


The L.A. trade man lol... 1st pick going the wrong way... and even then
SomeonesOffended and OldNYIfan liked this.
Dec. 9, 2023 at 11:04 p.m.
#5
Avatar of the user
Joined: Aug. 2022
Posts: 1,028
Likes: 331
Edmonton says no instantly.

Guentzel scores more than him but is paid more, so just comparing production it’s a wash when cap hits are considered. Considering overall game, Kane is worth more than Guentzal. Kane will fight anyone in this League, hits like a truck, draws penalties, stands up for teammates, on top of clutch production in playoffs.

Then consider that Kane is signed for 2 more years and Guentzal is a rental. Edmonton wouldn’t spend any money extending Guentzal nor would Guentzal even sign in Edmonton.
OldNYIfan liked this.
Dec. 9, 2023 at 11:15 p.m.
#6
pens1991
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jul. 2022
Posts: 2,996
Likes: 1,104
Pens decline the EDM deal, if they're selling Jake they can get better assets for the future.

IDK what you're think with the LA deal. 1 they simply don't need Rakell. 2. Rakell is not worth a 1st lol

no on tanev and Monahan is whatever.
OldNYIfan liked this.
Dec. 10, 2023 at 12:25 a.m.
#7
Once a Kings Fan Too
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jun. 2018
Posts: 41,636
Likes: 26,361
Quoting: GuentzelvaniaUSA
Guentzel is a 40 goal scorer. I’d presume Edmonton would extend him. That’s on them if they don’t want a 40 goal scorer next to McDavid for the next half decade. Honestly, Pittsburgh is losing way way more in that trade, I just would be willing to do it for the change in style. I’m not gunna sit here and argue if you actually think evander Kane has more value than Jake freaking Guentzel

Why would a potential cup contender not want to add at the deadline a 25-30 goal scorer 💀????

Yes, I and everyone with an IQ measurable in three digits thinks that Evander Kane with term has more value than Jake Guentzel as a UFA. @SwarmChair explained why Kane is worth more than Guentzel, even without the difference in term because anyone with a pulse knows that Guentzel wouldn't re-up in Edmonton.

Rickard Rakell is no longer a 25-30 goal scorer, which is why you're trading him. Even you understand that. He has a $5 million cap hit and even without the long-term injury which is keeping him off the ice now and for the foreseeable future, LA has Viktor Arvidsson coming back in 2024 and with Adrian Kempe, Trevor Moore and Kevin Fiala, the Kings have 4 guys who would play RW ahead of him. You'll be lucky to get anything close to what you paid for him even if there's a market for a guy whose contract expires when he'll be 35.
SwarmChair liked this.
Dec. 10, 2023 at 12:28 a.m.
#8
DNP1932
Avatar of the user
Joined: Nov. 2023
Posts: 224
Likes: 88
I’d like to see the pens get Monahan, but feel like he’d immediately slot into the 3c role, bumping Eller down to 4c with Acciari and Nieto on his wings which could be a good 4th line that will be very stingy. the other deals not so sure definitely not the Kane deal, I’m not a Kane fan but he’s never been a ppg player and he’s getting older. If you’re trading Guentzel I’d want picks and/or prospects definitely not someone older than him. As for the Tanev and Rakell we don’t have the space for tanev and I’d prefer they wait until rakell comes back before they do anything with him, the injury could’ve been the reason his production was non existent.
Dec. 10, 2023 at 12:32 a.m.
#9
Avatar of the user
Joined: Aug. 2022
Posts: 1,028
Likes: 331
Guentzal is such a tough player to value due to the Crosby effect. Any team acquiring him will be wondering how his production looks like not next to one of the best playmakers of this generation.

Even though Oilers wouldn’t do the trade, I really wonder what the return would be.
OldNYIfan liked this.
Dec. 10, 2023 at 2:59 p.m.
#10
Thread Starter
Pengweenies
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jun. 2015
Posts: 1,980
Likes: 293
Quoting: SwarmChair
Guentzal is such a tough player to value due to the Crosby effect. Any team acquiring him will be wondering how his production looks like not next to one of the best playmakers of this generation.

Even though Oilers wouldn’t do the trade, I really wonder what the return would be.


You literally don’t even know how to spell Guentzel
Dec. 10, 2023 at 3:10 p.m.
#11
Avatar of the user
Joined: Aug. 2022
Posts: 1,028
Likes: 331
Quoting: GuentzelvaniaUSA
You literally don’t even know how to spell Guentzel


Why bother. Don’t even want Jack Guntzel
Dec. 11, 2023 at 9:36 a.m.
#12
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2022
Posts: 3,451
Likes: 1,042
Quoting: SwarmChair
Guentzal is such a tough player to value due to the Crosby effect. Any team acquiring him will be wondering how his production looks like not next to one of the best playmakers of this generation.

Even though Oilers wouldn’t do the trade, I really wonder what the return would be.


For what it's worth, Guentzel has 16 goals and 24 points in 38 games without Crosby. Not saying EDM takes the trade - honestly the Pens would never do it anyway - but Guenztel is undoubtedly a good player with or without Crosby. Plus if he went to EDM he'd be playing with McDavid or Draisaitl, not like he'd be playing with some bums lol
 
Reply
To create a post please Login or Register
Question:
Options:
Add Option
Submit Poll