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Created by: Whatever1
Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 15, 2023
Published: Dec. 15, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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TOR
  1. Monahan, Sean ($900,000 retained)
  2. Savard, David
MTL
  1. Hirvonen, Roni
  2. 2024 1st round pick (TOR)
  3. 2024 3rd round pick (NYI)
  4. 2024 5th round pick (VAN)
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$83,500,000$83,000,950$0$15,000$499,050
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the St. Louis Blues
$5,800,000$5,800,000
LW, RW, C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,085,000$1,085,000 (Performance Bonus$15,000$15K)
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$3,000,000$3,000,000
C, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$796,667$796,667
LW, RW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,400,000$2,400,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the St. Louis Blues
$775,000$775,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$7,500,000$7,500,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo of the St. Louis Blues
$6,500,000$6,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 7
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$766,667$766,667
G
RFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$3,550,000$3,550,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,400,000$1,400,000
RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$4,687,500$4,687,500
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$4,150,000$4,150,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,350,000$1,350,000
RW
UFA - 3

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Dec. 15, 2023 at 3:55 p.m.
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Great idea if your goal is to make TO worse
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Dec. 15, 2023 at 3:57 p.m.
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Leafs pass on both of these obviously
Dec. 15, 2023 at 4:10 p.m.
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Selling Marner really cheap here.
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Dec. 15, 2023 at 4:12 p.m.
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Other than the fact that the absolute last thing MTL is another smaller than league average, left shot prospect.. value could be considered close.
Dec. 15, 2023 at 4:22 p.m.
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Marner is not going to sign an extension with the blues so this trade makes no sense. We are going to be rebuilding so there's no reason to trade for Marner
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Dec. 15, 2023 at 4:28 p.m.
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Selling Marner really cheap here.


tears of joy

Just saw your latest AGM, don't think you're qualified to discuss values.
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Dec. 16, 2023 at 12:33 a.m.
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Quoting: mokumboi
tears of joy

Just saw your latest AGM, don't think you're qualified to discuss values.


Glass house, buddy! glass house.
Dec. 16, 2023 at 5:58 a.m.
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Glass house, buddy! glass house.


Muh huh. And which NHL23 trades have I put up exactly?
Dec. 18, 2023 at 10:44 a.m.
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Muh huh. And which NHL23 trades have I put up exactly?


https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/4135104
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/4054962
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3969913
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/4024958
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/4063151

We all put up bad trades from time to time, especially when reaching out to teams with "feelers" - I don't expect a Star fan to know every prospect's value from MTL's perspective. Sometime, I base the value on another AGM which got a good/bad reaction.

I use the feedback, even negative, to adjust and learn from other fan bases. I don't mind being shutdown, I just ask that you provide a reason for it. I often agree.

On the Laine trade, i saw a Columbus fan selling him for a first in a prior AGM.
Dec. 18, 2023 at 11:22 a.m.
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mokumboi
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https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/4135104
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/4054962
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3969913
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/4024958
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/4063151

We all put up bad trades from time to time, especially when reaching out to teams with "feelers" - I don't expect a Star fan to know every prospect's value from MTL's perspective. Sometime, I base the value on another AGM which got a good/bad reaction.

I use the feedback, even negative, to adjust and learn from other fan bases. I don't mind being shutdown, I just ask that you provide a reason for it. I often agree.

On the Laine trade, i saw a Columbus fan selling him for a first in a prior AGM.


Ehh... the first one I opened had a trade I lifted directly from a Wild fan. The second one had exactly zero trades on it. The third one I opened had one trade that says it was lifted straight from a Columbus fan AGM together with a Krug trade to Philly for at best a C prospect. So yeah, not really sure where you're going with these. Not seeing any NHL23 level abominations.
Dec. 18, 2023 at 11:36 a.m.
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Ehh... the first one I opened had a trade I lifted directly from a Wild fan. The second one had exactly zero trades on it. The third one I opened had one trade that says it was lifted straight from a Columbus fan AGM together with a Krug trade to Philly for at best a C prospect. So yeah, not really sure where you're going with these. Not seeing any NHL23 level abominations.


See - I have a diverging opinion, I think the trade proposed are awful. Lets move on.

Ex:

Hållander, Filip [RFA Rights]

for:

Brown, Logan
Krug, Torey
Dec. 18, 2023 at 12:33 p.m.
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See - I have a diverging opinion, I think the trade proposed are awful. Lets move on.

Ex:

Hållander, Filip [RFA Rights]

for:

Brown, Logan
Krug, Torey


Heh... also directly lifted from a Pens fan.
Dec. 18, 2023 at 12:41 p.m.
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Heh... also directly lifted from a Pens fan.


well, still decided to post it.

Anyway, I hope you get my point that I'm not thriving for perfection on every trade. It's a trial and error process sometimes. And often, opinion vary inside de fan base.
 
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