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Dec. 15, 2023 at 7:15 p.m.
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Trade confirmed: Colorado Avalanche - Seattle Kraken
Trade Details
Colorado Avalanche Acquire:
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
2024 5th round pick (SEA - #137)
Sum: $0$0$0
Change: -$1,500,000
Change: -$1,500,000
Change: -$1,500,000
Seattle Kraken Acquire:
Logo of the Seattle Kraken
Tomas Tatar · $1,500,000$1,500,000$1,500,000
Sum: $1,500,000$1,500,000$1,500,000
Change: +$1,500,000
Change: +$1,500,000
Change: +$1,500,000
Dec. 15, 2023 at 7:15 p.m.
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Colorado picks up a free pick for somebody who was on the FA Market for 2 months.
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Dec. 15, 2023 at 7:22 p.m.
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Of course, a team with a ridiculous team name pays to pick up Tatar. At least it's on brand.
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Dec. 15, 2023 at 7:26 p.m.
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SEA adds yet another top 9 winger to its roster, weird

But maybe he's worth a try due to the injuries to Schwartz and Burakovsky
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Dec. 15, 2023 at 7:29 p.m.
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Hope Tatar can get his game back! He’s looked out of place in Colorado.

Makes me wonder how soon Colorado will make another move.
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Dec. 15, 2023 at 7:35 p.m.
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Seems pretty fair, though I like this from COLs side since they essentially signed a UFA and flipped him for a pick
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Dec. 15, 2023 at 8:00 p.m.
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A 5th round draft pick only has a 1 in 3 chance of playing a single game in the NHL and less than half that chance to play more than 200. Tatar will almost certainly play more games for Seattle this season than the draft pick will play for Colorado. Seattle wins.
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Dec. 15, 2023 at 8:04 p.m.
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That's about what I'd pay for Tatar at this stage in his career.

FWIW, it's also what Beauvillier and Lafferty were traded for recently.

Fair deal.
Dec. 15, 2023 at 8:12 p.m.
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Tbh, I felt Tatar was trending upwards and now I'm really sad that he got traded. But hey, it didn't work out. Wishing Tatar the best in Seattle
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Dec. 15, 2023 at 8:58 p.m.
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Seems like a fair trade from my perspective. Colorado gets an asset for a player who wasn't fitting in their system for whatever reason. Seattle needs a scoring boost with much of the depth scoring that helped them roll four lines last season MIA and guys like Burakovsky and Schwartz injured. Tatar throughout his career has primarily served as a scoring threat, so hopefully he can provide that for the Kraken and help them move up the standings. If Seattle winds up selling at the deadline anyway, they could probably recoup the pick they traded for him.
Dec. 15, 2023 at 9:06 p.m.
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he seems to be the poster boy for hot/cold play.... its a big win if he gets hot in Seattle.
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Dec. 15, 2023 at 9:13 p.m.
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Tatar played real well in NJ last year (his first year was so-so). In 2021-22, NJD relied more on speed in North-South game. In 2022-23, Brunette’s system added more East-West in possession, which better-suited Tatar’s game. I had thought he would have done well in Colorado, but not sure how they used him.

He is a good middle-six winger for possession style system or someone looking for improvement in 5v5 controlled entries. Hope Seattle works out for him.
Dec. 15, 2023 at 9:21 p.m.
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You know nothing JS
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Seattle could use the offense even if they are out off the playoffs picture.

Colorado is saving pennies to adress their depth problem eventually. I'm sure they would had included Drouin for free.
Dec. 15, 2023 at 9:41 p.m.
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Quoting: CSStrowbridge
A 5th round draft pick only has a 1 in 3 chance of playing a single game in the NHL and less than half that chance to play more than 200. Tatar will almost certainly play more games for Seattle this season than the draft pick will play for Colorado. Seattle wins.


you know you can trade picks for players right. for a guy as good as tatar. (this is a good exemple) flawed analys! picks are more than draft position!
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Dec. 15, 2023 at 10:11 p.m.
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It's a "free asset" for the Avs who need draft picks and not a big lose on the current roster. Not so much to use it but for future moves and/or salary cap retention in trades.

With Tufte, Kiviranta, and Meyers able to fill in at forward when needed until the TDL I think we'll probably accrue the cap space (using ACSL).
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Dec. 15, 2023 at 10:31 p.m.
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Quoting: Andy_Dick
Of course, a team with a ridiculous team name pays to pick up Tatar. At least it's on brand.


You want some Tatar sauce with that?
Anyway. Dude is overrated. 5th rounder is more than fair.
Dec. 15, 2023 at 11:28 p.m.
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SEA has so many forwards though this feels odd
Dec. 16, 2023 at 4:24 a.m.
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Quoting: HockeyScotty
I think we'll probably accrue the cap space (using ACSL).


Avs is using LTIR money the whole season, not possible to accrue cap space.
Dec. 16, 2023 at 7:12 a.m.
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Tatar wins. Colorado pays a price in unnecessary draft pick. Seattle has nothing to loose.
Dec. 16, 2023 at 7:23 a.m.
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Seems like a fair trade from my perspective. Colorado gets an asset for a player who wasn't fitting in their system for whatever reason. Seattle needs a scoring boost with much of the depth scoring that helped them roll four lines last season and with guys like Burakovsky and Schwartz injured. Tatar throughout his career has primarily served as a scoring threat, so hopefully he can provide that for the Kraken and help them move up the standings. If Seattle winds up selling at the deadline anyway, they could probably recoup the pick they traded for him.


Yamo is producing on the top PP in Seattle so it's certainly possible! Yamo was as much a ghost in Edmonton at the end of his time there as Tatar in Colorado.

Quoting: drambui
you know you can trade picks for players right. for a guy as good as tatar. (this is a good exemple) flawed analys! picks are more than draft position!


Which is why the Oilers should be looking to move their depth for picks (Foegele) and acquire rentals in turn for the top 6 (Barabanov). And, let guys like Holloway and Hamblin have a role in the bottom 6.
Dec. 16, 2023 at 9:43 a.m.
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The Seattle “We’ll take anything for scoring” Kraken
Dec. 16, 2023 at 9:51 a.m.
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Quoting: Deadsy
Avs is using LTIR money the whole season, not possible to accrue cap space.


Lookup ACSL, they can; especially moving out Tatar's $1.5 hit
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Dec. 16, 2023 at 4:21 p.m.
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Quoting: HockeyScotty
Lookup ACSL, they can; especially moving out Tatar's $1.5 hit


CapFriendly says no, for the moment at least. Currently no teams are accruing cap space.

From what I understand Avs would need to remove about another million from the current roster to be able to accrue cap space. With the first LTIR being Landy's 7 million it's not likely Avs will accrue any cap space this season. Or I could be completely off.
Dec. 16, 2023 at 5:09 p.m.
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Thought Tuna would fit like a glove in Colorado. Unfortunately he didn't pan out there, but Seattle really feels like a team that can get the most out of him. I think this is relatively fair granted the circumstances, but Seattle gets some good value here
Dec. 16, 2023 at 11:02 p.m.
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Quoting: Deadsy
CapFriendly says no, for the moment at least. Currently no teams are accruing cap space.

From what I understand Avs would need to remove about another million from the current roster to be able to accrue cap space. With the first LTIR being Landy's 7 million it's not likely Avs will accrue any cap space this season. Or I could be completely off.


ACSL is really difficult to calculate from the outside with Landeskog being on LTIR from the start of the season and Francouz/Lehkonen going on later. We would need more than just a daily cap calculator; we'd need more details from the NHL. In theory they could be doing it. So if the Tatar move isn't offset by another immediately then this is a "tell" that they might be accruing for the TDL.
 
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