Quoting: NucksnOilers
Oh trust me Campbell is terrible but Elvis has been very iffy and is being paid 5.4 million long term. Over the last three seasons he's averaged a below.900 SV%.
It's a broberg for Boqvist swap to give both fresh starts and then the 1st,2nd and Campbell for Elvis.
What would Elvis be worth on his own?
Also how much would the retention be lowered? It's like 1.5 million for 2 seasons. How much would a difference of 500k really be.
Heh.
1 - So you've used save percentage as the measure. Okay, now factor in the difference in teams they've played for. Quite a gulf there. Elvis was not good last season (who was on that team?), but every other season he's been from serviceable to decent to good. The bad thing about Elvis is he's overpaid, so I would go so far as to agree he had zero value. In other words, that don't dent the dump that Campbell is in my most generous book.
Also, you've deferred the first. A 25 1st is not worth as much as a 25 1st, especially when the 25 1st has every reasonable chance of being much lower in the round than the 24 1st might be.
2 - You know very well it's 2 3/4 seasons x 1.75, not 2x1.5. So that's almost 5M in retention, eating up a slot across three seasons. The Blues are not one of these teams who have bottomed out and are sitting on loads of cap space. They're up against now. They'll be up against next season's and so forth. Add it all up, and I'll be generous, we can just say 5M and change of retention value. That runs ya a good 2nd rounder typically.
Then you get Hayes, with his size and half point per game and now he even comes with dominance in the faceoff circle, for less than 2M per season. What a fine service that is. What's he worth at under 2M to a team that aims to contend, scrapes the cap ceiling and always rues forward depth issues? Gotta be in the range of a 2nd, yeah?
And then we also take Janmark's remainder of 1M. I like the guy, but the team does not need him. It's another favor.
Okay, well if that's all close enough to correct, this would be an overpay by the Blues. What's more, that cap scrape I noted previously, that's a thing for the Blues. Therefore, I ask for less retention, as one would do in a negotiation. Simple.
Quoting: NucksnOilers
The blues are a team avoiding a youth movement whether they're competitive or not. Guys like Hayes, Parayko and Buch really have no use for them at this point. Would't they rather move on from those guys and build around Thomas,Kyrou and Neighbours instead of trying to compete for a WC2 spot?
Hahahaha what??? Bruh... just the thought of lumping Buch and Parayko in with Hayes is... WOOF. Secondly, you have a deep misunderstanding of all that goes on over there.