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Dec. 31, 2023 at 11:44 a.m.
#51
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Quoting: Onlyfairtrades1
I'm sure FACTS will mean nothing to an absurd person like you but here they are:

Not going to compare 2022 stats since Chytil was the 3C and Trocheck the 2C, so lets look at this season all the games they each played 2C with Panarin and Laffy on their wings.

Chytil played 10 games with ZERO goals and 6 assists for 6 points. In those 10 games Laffy had 4 goals and 0 assists and Panarin had 5 goals and 11 assists for 16 points. The line scored 9 goals and had 17 assists for 26 points, for an average of 0.90 goals/game, 1.70 assists/game and 2.60 points/game.

Trocheck played the next 25 games and had 8 goals and 21 assists for 29 points. In those 25 games Laffy had 6 goals and 12 assists for 18 points and Panarin had 18 goals and 16 assists for 34 points. The line scored 32 goals and had 49 assists for 81 points, for an average of 1.28 goals/game, 1.96 assists/game and 3.24 points/game.

Clearly the 2nd line is more productive with Trocheck at center.

Now lets look at Laffy. His average points went up from 0.40 to 0.72/game with Trocheck. Trocheck averaged 1.16 points per game to Chytils 0.60 points per game. Panarin is still producing at a very high level of 1.36 points per game and the line is way more balanced with all 3 guys contributing significantly. The stats tell a clear story that Trocheck produces far more points per game than Chytil and his line mates are better with him as their center.

What about faceoff wins? Trocheck is top 5 in the entire league above 63% while Chytil is terrible at 43%.

What about physical play? Trocheck averages over 1.5 hits/game and will drop the gloves when needed. Chytil barely touches anyone all game and would never drop the gloves.

What about defensive play? Trocheck is better all around defensively.

I notice you always talk about Chytil being only 24. Ok, lets compare his stats right now at 24 to Trochecks at 24. Chytil has played 337 games and scored 64 goals plus 80 assists for 144 points or 0.43/game. At 24 Trocheck had played 310 games and scored 91 goals with 121 assists, for 212 points or 0.68/game.

So the FACTS say that as a 2C on the Rangers, Trocheck easily out produces Chytil, his linemates produce more, and he is much better at face offs and better defensively. They also say that as of the same age (24), Trocheck again was far more productive than Chytil has been to this point.

Those are FACTS, not that they matter in your world, but they confirm that Chytil can't carry Trocheck's jock.


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A FACT is that 10 games, and LESS than 10 full games actually, since Chytil was hurt in the first period of game 10, is simply not a big enough sample size to call a line unproductive. Trocheck has been a great and capable 2C and I've never hated on him or disparaged him like you have hated on and disparaged Chytil. But here's another fact.... being a capable 2C is what's expected of you, if you are A) a veteran player B) on an expensive contract at almost 6m a year and C) locked up long-term until you are 35yo. But none of these things matter in the world of an absurd person like yourself. And this isn't even me mentioning, once again, that Chytil is more important to the Rangers' long term plans than Trocheck is. If Chytil didn't get hurt this year, and already had 15 goals and 15 assists on the season as 2C by this point, people would be talking about trading Trocheck. That's a fact. And I can confirm with first-hand knowledge, that people in the Rangers' organization were considering moving on from Trocheck this PAST summer. It's a good thing that they didn't, otherwise the Rangers would be in trouble right now, but just know that it was in the works and is very much in the realm of possibility before his contract is up.

I actually liked your breakdown of goals, assists, and games. I've done an analysis of my own in the past using the same numbers which prove that Chytil at his young age is more productive than Zibanejad was at Chytil's young age. I guess according to you, this means Zibanejad can't carry Chytil's jock. And Zibanejad is an abysmal player. I'm simply following your logic. But you won't want to talk about that.

Oh, and I hope you saw PL's quote to the media yesterday about him welcoming Chytil back "with open arms" as soon as he's healthy. AKA he's 2C again. But you will probably ignore that or use mental gymnastics to explain why Chytil is abysmal and can't carry someone's jock some more. Happy New Year and looking forward to your response on January 10th 2024 most likely
Dec. 31, 2023 at 12:16 p.m.
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Quoting: Coachchippy
Back for more, a week later tears of joy tears of joy tears of joy

A FACT is that 10 games, and LESS than 10 full games actually, since Chytil was hurt in the first period of game 10, is simply not a big enough sample size to call a line unproductive. Trocheck has been a great and capable 2C and I've never hated on him or disparaged him like you have hated on and disparaged Chytil. But here's another fact.... being a capable 2C is what's expected of you, if you are A) a veteran player B) on an expensive contract at almost 6m a year and C) locked up long-term until you are 35yo. But none of these things matter in the world of an absurd person like yourself. And this isn't even me mentioning, once again, that Chytil is more important to the Rangers' long term plans than Trocheck is. If Chytil didn't get hurt this year, and already had 15 goals and 15 assists on the season as 2C by this point, people would be talking about trading Trocheck. That's a fact. And I can confirm with first-hand knowledge, that people in the Rangers' organization were considering moving on from Trocheck this PAST summer. It's a good thing that they didn't, otherwise the Rangers would be in trouble right now, but just know that it was in the works and is very much in the realm of possibility before his contract is up.

I actually liked your breakdown of goals, assists, and games. I've done an analysis of my own in the past using the same numbers which prove that Chytil at his young age is more productive than Zibanejad was at Chytil's young age. I guess according to you, this means Zibanejad can't carry Chytil's jock. And Zibanejad is an abysmal player. I'm simply following your logic. But you won't want to talk about that.

Oh, and I hope you saw PL's quote to the media yesterday about him welcoming Chytil back "with open arms" as soon as he's healthy. AKA he's 2C again. But you will probably ignore that or use mental gymnastics to explain why Chytil is abysmal and can't carry someone's jock some more. Happy New Year and looking forward to your response on January 10th 2024 most likely


As usual nonsense from you. Moving the goalposts again, as the argument who who is the better 2C to help the Rangers win a CUP NOW. Facts don't fit your fantasy, so rant like the absurd person you are. You asked for facts, you got tons of facts that prove you wrong, and you still rant. LMFAO. Bye bye Mr. Absurdity.
Dec. 31, 2023 at 12:19 p.m.
#53
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As usual nonsense from you. Moving the goalposts again, as the argument who who is the better 2C to help the Rangers win a CUP NOW. Facts don't fit your fantasy, so rant like the absurd person you are. You asked for facts, you got tons of facts that prove you wrong, and you still rant. LMFAO. Bye bye Mr. Absurdity.


I've said a million times that my only concern is not just winning a Cup "Now". I'm not an ignorant hockey fan so I realize that the future of the Rangers is important too. That's not moving a goalpost if I've maintained this the whole time. And I didn't rant. I just countered your numbers with other points that are also true. Because there's more to the story than just numbers. But since you are an absurd person, you can't look up from the spreadsheet for 30 seconds to acknowledge how there is More To The Story. I haven't been proved wrong once. Chytil is the best centre on the team. Fact.
Dec. 31, 2023 at 12:21 p.m.
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Chytil is the best centre on the team. Fact.[/quote]

Hahahahahahahahahaha. 100% proof of how absurd you are. Thank you Mr Absurdity.
Dec. 31, 2023 at 12:27 p.m.
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Quoting: Onlyfairtrades1
Chytil is the best centre on the team. Fact.


Hahahahahahahahahaha. 100% proof of how absurd you are. Thank you Mr Absurdity.[/quote]

Absurd is accusing someone of moving goalposts when they're simply following your logic.
Dec. 31, 2023 at 12:28 p.m.
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Hahahahahahahahahaha. 100% proof of how absurd you are. Thank you Mr Absurdity.


Absurd is accusing someone of moving goalposts when they're simply following your logic.[/quote]

Most absurd statement made on this forum and that includes all posts from Hab fans! hahahahahahahahha
 
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