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Published: Dec. 29, 2023 at 1:02 p.m.
Salary Cap: $83,500,000
Season Days: 111/192 (58%)
Central Registry Determination: This trade has met the central registry's trade checklist

Logo of the Calgary FlamesCalgary Flames

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Huberdeau, JonathanCalgary FlamesNHL-$10,500,000011---3541115--
Markström, JacobCalgary FlamesNHL-$6,000,000011-------2.710.904
Ruzicka, AdamCalgary FlamesNHL9%$693,875011---29369--
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Palat, OndrejNew Jersey DevilsNHL-$6,000,000011---335914--
Meier, TimoNew Jersey DevilsNHL-$8,800,000011---269615--
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$4,349,1672245643710
Change$2,393,875-1-1-1000
Final$6,743,042 (↑)21 (↓)44 (↓)63 (↓)37107-25

Logo of the New Jersey DevilsNew Jersey Devils

Coincident TransactionInitial StatusNew StatusCap Hit ChangeRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Daws, NicoNHLMinor-$491,888-1-----------
OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Palat, OndrejNew Jersey DevilsNHL-$3,468,750011---335914--
Meier, TimoNew Jersey DevilsNHL-$5,087,500011---269615--
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Huberdeau, JonathanCalgary FlamesNHL-$6,070,313011---3541115--
Markström, JacobCalgary FlamesNHL-$3,468,750011-------2.710.904
Ruzicka, AdamCalgary FlamesNHL9%$401,146011---29369--
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$894,3412244663511
Change-$892,071011000
Final$2,270 (↓)2245 (↑)67 (↑)3511-72-5
Dec. 29, 2023 at 1:36 p.m.
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Calgary counters with Meier for Huberdeau straight up. Maybe we add something extra but it won't be Markstrom or Ruzicka and there won't be any retention. We'll take a cap balancing add from NJ too but make it a pending UFA not a 32 year old making 6 mil per until 2027.
Dec. 29, 2023 at 2:01 p.m.
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Calgary counters with Meier for Huberdeau straight up. Maybe we add something extra but it won't be Markstrom or Ruzicka and there won't be any retention. We'll take a cap balancing add from NJ too but make it a pending UFA not a 32 year old making 6 mil per until 2027.


You would never make a trade in your lifetime as a gm.i get that this is fantasty,but you live in a fantasty world,with your flame pajamas on.of course cgy does this,they do anything to get rid of huberdeau.
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Dec. 29, 2023 at 3:54 p.m.
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Calgary counters with Meier for Huberdeau straight up. Maybe we add something extra but it won't be Markstrom or Ruzicka and there won't be any retention. We'll take a cap balancing add from NJ too but make it a pending UFA not a 32 year old making 6 mil per until 2027.


Meier has played this year hurt with no PP1 time and on the 3rd line and is still doing much better than Huberdeau while being several years younger and making 2m less
Dec. 30, 2023 at 6:54 a.m.
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The randotradometer pop another one out?
Dec. 30, 2023 at 8:23 p.m.
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The randotradometer pop another one out?


this one has a lot better chance of happening than samsonov for marky.at least jersey has some cap space.
Dec. 31, 2023 at 6:32 a.m.
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this one has a lot better chance of happening than samsonov for marky.at least jersey has some cap space.


Well since you're not accounting for Klingberg's LTIR status, then we can not account for Hamilton's LTIR status; ergo, NJ has no cap space
Dec. 31, 2023 at 11:56 a.m.
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Edited Dec. 31, 2023 at 12:10 p.m.
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Well since you're not accounting for Klingberg's LTIR status, then we can not account for Hamilton's LTIR status; ergo, NJ has no cap space


ok you seem pretty determined,ill make sure not to be honest with you again,i must have hurt your feelings.GO TO CAPFRIENDLY AND READ IT FOR YOURSELF,IT SAYS LEAFS CAP 97 M WITH 14 M ON LTIR,INCLUDING KLINGBERG.DEVILS 82 m WITH ALMOST 900000 OF SPACE BUT HAMILTON AND HIS 9 M ISNT ON LTIR YET,HES STILL ON IR.Zadorov wanted to resign in cgy longterm,the flames didnt want to do that.so Zadorov got his agent to request a trade in toronto,to get the most bang for there buck.and has been reported in calgary,many times by many sources.he preferred toronto.tree wanted him but HAD NO CAP SPACE and needed the flames to retain 50 percent.the flames didnt want to do that,this early in the season,even though toronto had a better offer.the reason they didnt want to do it was because you can only retain on 3 contracts,per cba.and they have 3 ufas to move at the deadline Lindholm,Hanifin and Tanev.to maximize there return they will be retaining.ex Tanev with 50 percent retention for the leafs prospect fraser minten,or Lindholm with 50 percent retention so these teams can do it at the deadline for the avs Byram.Zadorov likes vancouver and if the canucks give him term he will resign.i have not predicted Marky in jersey i just said it makes sense, and its been reported by cgy journalists that the devils have been sniffing around Marky and they have the CAP SPACE, which the leafs dont have.the leafs can fit Tanev in at the deadline with 50 percent retention,but the flames wont be retaining on any contracts that arent ufas,Marky has term.murray edwards is all about money,not cups, and wont be paying for someone to play elsewhere unless its just till the end of the reg season.its hard to move a 6m contract during the season when all the contending teams are up against the cap,although jersey is one team that can.so Marky will probably still be in cgy,but i believe the flames are shifting there path to a full on rebuild or retool,and are realizing moving Marky is a better option than Vladr.im done my part now to try to make you understand all this.but the flames and the leafs arent going to be making a deal with what you proposed of samsonov coming to calgary,they already have 3 goalies with Wolf.i wont be responding to you again,so go ahead and cherry pick any part of this you like,but i promise im done.
Jan. 1 at 11:26 a.m.
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Meier has played this year hurt with no PP1 time and on the 3rd line and is still doing much better than Huberdeau while being several years younger and making 2m less


ya moxnix is a homer and thinks everybody on the flames is way better than they are.to get rid of huberdeau you would have to take a couple of bad contracts back like this with meier and palat, give them a starting goalie Marky and a big forward with some upside Ruzicka.
Jan. 3 at 8:26 p.m.
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Calgary counters with Meier for Huberdeau straight up. Maybe we add something extra but it won't be Markstrom or Ruzicka and there won't be any retention. We'll take a cap balancing add from NJ too but make it a pending UFA not a 32 year old making 6 mil per until 2027.


i get this is fantasty,but if you think anybody is taking huberdeau without giving up considerable assets and taking bad contracts back,you just need to put your flames pajamas back on.
Jan. 4 at 5:57 p.m.
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ya moxnix is a homer and thinks everybody on the flames is way better than they are.to get rid of huberdeau you would have to take a couple of bad contracts back like this with meier and palat, give them a starting goalie Marky and a big forward with some upside Ruzicka.


Devils will keep Meier thank you very much.

Markstrom doesn’t have trade value without retention. Huberdeau is the worst deal in hockey.
Jan. 5 at 7:00 p.m.
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Devils will keep Meier thank you very much.

Markstrom doesn’t have trade value without retention. Huberdeau is the worst deal in hockey.


Markstrom is a legit top 10 starting goalie on a very reasonable deal.i actually dont think you would have to throw Ruzicka into this deal,maybe just greer or duehr.Huberdeau is the worst contract in the nhl,but Timo Meier isnt far behind,and Palat at 6 mil for 3 more yrs,is almost impossible to move as well.the only player with significant value in this deal is Marky,he has been the flames best player this yr and the only reason there even close to a playoff spot.
Jan. 5 at 7:07 p.m.
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Markstrom is a legit top 10 starting goalie on a very reasonable deal.i actually dont think you would have to throw Ruzicka into this deal,maybe just greer or duehr.Huberdeau is the worst contract in the nhl,but Timo Meier isnt far behind,and Palat at 6 mil for 3 more yrs,is almost impossible to move as well.the only player with significant value in this deal is Marky,he has been the flames best player this yr and the only reason there even close to a playoff spot.


Markstrom has a top 10 contract over the next 3 years. Here’s a list of goalies to be top 10 from ages 33-35 in the last 15 years.

Henrik. That’s the list.

I wouldn’t buy a goalie that age.

Timo has been more than worth the money when healthy. Huberdeau just sucks.

Timo is easily the most valuable asset in this deal
Jan. 5 at 7:10 p.m.
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Markstrom has a top 10 contract over the next 3 years. Here’s a list of goalies to be top 10 from ages 33-35 in the last 15 years.

Henrik. That’s the list.

I wouldn’t buy a goalie that age.

Timo has been more than worth the money when healthy. Huberdeau just sucks.

Timo is easily the most valuable asset in this deal


well im guessing you havent been watching many flames games because,Marky has been outstanding and easily there best player.Meier has been brutal.
Jan. 5 at 7:11 p.m.
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well im guessing you havent been watching many flames games because,Marky has been outstanding and easily there best player.Meier has been brutal.


Cool. He’s still a 33 year old goalie making 6 mill. A 25 game sample size isn’t gonna make me buy that.

Meier has been brutal when playing through an injury that significantly impacted his skating speed. If that injury lasts 8 years I’ll be worried
Jan. 5 at 7:17 p.m.
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Cool. He’s still a 33 year old goalie making 6 mill. A 25 game sample size isn’t gonna make me buy that.

Meier has been brutal when playing through an injury that significantly impacted his skating speed. If that injury lasts 8 years I’ll be worried


jersey has maybe the worst goaltending in the nhl.Markstrom solves it for 2 yrs,he is showing no signs of his play dropping,hes also one of the most competitive guys i have ever seen.i think this deal makes a lot of sense,and Markstrom to new jersery is really gaining traction,why? Because it makes sense.
Jan. 5 at 7:20 p.m.
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jersey has maybe the worst goaltending in the nhl.Markstrom solves it for 2 yrs,he is showing no signs of his play dropping,hes also one of the most competitive guys i have ever seen.i think this deal makes a lot of sense,and Markstrom to new jersery is really gaining traction,why? Because it makes sense.


Every goalie looks good until they don’t. And every team thinks a goalies good play will last forever, and their bad play is just an aberration.

The numbers say goalies aren’t good from ages 33-35. I’m not willing to pay assets to bet on Markstrom being the exception.

I’ll take his contract, where the downside is having to pay him if he falls off. I’m not paying assets for that privilege.

If Calgary wants assets, they can retain.
Jan. 5 at 7:21 p.m.
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jersey has maybe the worst goaltending in the nhl.Markstrom solves it for 2 yrs,he is showing no signs of his play dropping,hes also one of the most competitive guys i have ever seen.i think this deal makes a lot of sense,and Markstrom to new jersery is really gaining traction,why? Because it makes sense.


This deal makes no sense. It makes the devils significantly worse as a team, and tanks them into the future by taking on by far the worst contract in hockey
Jan. 5 at 7:41 p.m.
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This deal makes no sense. It makes the devils significantly worse as a team, and tanks them into the future by taking on by far the worst contract in hockey


well ill agree on the the Huberdeau part,but if you think anybody would touch Meier or Palat.and this Marky to new jersey chatter is for a reason.
Jan. 5 at 7:42 p.m.
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well ill agree on the the Huberdeau part,but if you think anybody would touch Meier or Palat.and this Marky to new jersey chatter is for a reason.


We don’t want to give up Meier or Palat

We’d take Markstrom for free or pay for him with significant retention.
Jan. 5 at 7:58 p.m.
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We don’t want to give up Meier or Palat

We’d take Markstrom for free or pay for him with significant retention.


theres no retention,he is easily worth 6 mil.Meier and Palat arent earning there money.MARKSTROM IS A LEGIT TOP 10 STARTING GOALIE.
Jan. 5 at 8:01 p.m.
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theres no retention,he is easily worth 6 mil.Meier and Palat arent earning there money.MARKSTROM IS A LEGIT TOP 10 STARTING GOALIE.


Yes. Right now he is worth his contract. But his contract has 2 more years into his mid 30s.
Jan. 5 at 8:06 p.m.
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Yes. Right now he is worth his contract. But his contract has 2 more years into his mid 30s.


The devils need a goalie now.why must Markstrom suddenly go down hill.im not lying hes been the main reason the flames are anywhere near the playoffs.so he is showing no signs of decline.
Jan. 6 at 2:00 p.m.
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The devils need a goalie now.why must Markstrom suddenly go down hill.im not lying hes been the main reason the flames are anywhere near the playoffs.so he is showing no signs of decline.


Because he's old and that's how aging works. Every goalie is going to be good forever right up until they aren't. Goalies especially fall off very suddenly. I don't buy that Jacob Markstrom is the exception to the rule
Jan. 7 at 10:03 p.m.
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Because he's old and that's how aging works. Every goalie is going to be good forever right up until they aren't. Goalies especially fall off very suddenly. I don't buy that Jacob Markstrom is the exception to the rule


then you just havent been watching him this season.
Jan. 7 at 10:10 p.m.
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then you just havent been watching him this season.


Again. If we buy Markstrom we don’t get to back in time and get his play from the past. We’re buying his future, and the numbers suggest that goalies from age 34-36 don’t do well.
 
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