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Team: 2023-24 Vancouver Canucks
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 2, 2024
Published: Jan. 2, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
VAN
  1. Chychrun, Jakob
  2. Pinto, Shane [RFA Rights]
  3. Tkachuk, Brady
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Cost Certainty for the Canucks
OTT
  1. Höglander, Nils
  2. Hronek, Filip
  3. Pettersson, Elias
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Acquire a franchise C to pair with Stutzle as likely the most formidable 1-2 punch outside of McDavid/Draisaitl
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$83,500,000$79,736,131$850,000$0$3,763,869
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
C, LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 7
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$6,650,000$6,650,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$4,950,000$4,950,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
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$1,900,000$1,900,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$1,150,000$1,150,000
RW, C, LW
UFA - 1
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$825,000$825,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$1,600,000$1,600,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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$775,000$775,000
LW
UFA - 2
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$883,750$883,750
C
RFA - 1
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$8,205,714$8,205,714
LW
UFA - 5
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$7,850,000$7,850,000
LD
UFA - 4
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
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UFA - 1
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
UFA - 3
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$3,750,000$3,750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$1,800,000$1,800,000
G
UFA - 1
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$4,600,000$4,600,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$775,000$775,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 3
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$775,000$775,000
LD
UFA - 2

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Jan. 2 at 7:54 p.m.
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Ottawa says no.
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Jan. 2 at 7:59 p.m.
#2
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Easy no for both sides.
Why would both teams do this?
It's bizarre.
Jan. 2 at 8:04 p.m.
#3
Sennecke is a gem
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No for both, but hot take: This is worse for OTT
Jan. 2 at 8:05 p.m.
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I mean... Petey is obviously the best player here. But for my money, Chychrun is far better than Hronek. Hronek has been great this season, but Chychrun will be Chychrun without any help, I don't think Hronek is this year's player without Quinn Hughes. And to me, Pinto is the much better player than Hoglander. For my money I'm taking the Ottawa side of the deal for sure.
Jan. 2 at 8:08 p.m.
#5
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Both sides decline.

Pettersson is worth more than that. Subtract Tkachuk and add Stutzle and it's probably closer.
Jan. 2 at 8:09 p.m.
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Hughes/Hronek has been working and this time next year, you’ll have 8 years of certainty with EP.
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Jan. 2 at 8:09 p.m.
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Quoting: Caufield
No for both, but hot take: This is worse for OTT


Idk if it's that hot a take.

Obviously Petey is WAY goddamn better than Tkachuk, but I think the gap between Chychrun + Pinto vs Hronek + Hoglander is really big too.
Jan. 2 at 8:10 p.m.
#8
VAN
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Gross

Van doesn't want whiny baby Brady. Especially not for Petey 😂
Jan. 2 at 8:18 p.m.
#9
ej15 BYATCH
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lots of people including myself
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Jan. 2 at 8:19 p.m.
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Quoting: Claesson4Norris
Idk if it's that hot a take.

Obviously Petey is WAY goddamn better than Tkachuk, but I think the gap between Chychrun + Pinto vs Hronek + Hoglander is really big too.


Not to mention EP will cost how much on his next contract? So Ottawa will have to ship out another core member to make cap room.

Ottawa already have plenty of skill. They have no issues scoring goals. They need more physical and defense first players
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Jan. 2 at 8:26 p.m.
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PDG over PDO
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Vancouver easily
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Jan. 2 at 8:38 p.m.
#12
I want Gourde back
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Vancouver for sure says no. Pettersson is just too good. Ottawa probably declines as well. They lose too much value other than Pettersson
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Jan. 2 at 8:44 p.m.
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Quoting: Caufield
No for both, but hot take: This is worse for OTT


This is FAR worse for Vancouver than Ottawa. Franchise #1 centres don’t come along very often, especially high level offensive ones that can play defence well too. You can’t replace that. Ottawa would have multiple #1 centres with this deal that can elevate their wingers to a Tkachuk level.

Massive loss for Vancouver.
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Jan. 2 at 8:44 p.m.
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Canucks pass very easily

Pettersson >>>> Tkachuk
Hronek < Chychrun (although Hronek being a RHD closes the value gap a bit)
Hoglander << Pinto

The gap between Chychrun/Pinto and Hronek/Hoglander isn’t enough for the Canucks to do this
Jan. 2 at 8:58 p.m.
#15
GM Tom Dundon
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Neutral observer - Vancouver should keep their players and sign both EP and FH.
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Jan. 2 at 9:31 p.m.
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Makes zero sense. So I say no.
Jan. 2 at 9:46 p.m.
#17
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Quoting: Caufield
No for both, but hot take: This is worse for OTT


Pettey is the best player in this deal but ottawa loses heavy and adds more cap
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Jan. 2 at 10:25 p.m.
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Canucks turn that down hard, giving up a Top 5 center in the league a 1st pair RD and a winger with high potential for a 1st line LW, #1 LD and a prospect. HARD PASS for Vancouver. Ottawa would do this in a heartbeat.
 
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