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Team: 2023-24 Colorado Avalanche
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 6, 2024
Published: Jan. 7, 2024
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  1. Swayman, Jeremy
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    Jan. 7 at 4:16 p.m.
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    Forget it. Boston is not trading him and AVs don’t have the pieces they’d want if they were.

    Ullmark would be the guy to target. Don’t see how the 2 teams could find a move to make cap work. Avs would probably have to do a separate deal to make it work.
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    Jan. 7 at 4:21 p.m.
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    Quoting: Gofnut999
    Forget it. Boston is not trading him and AVs don’t have the pieces they’d want if they were.

    Ullmark would be the guy to target. Don’t see how the 2 teams could find a move to make cap work. Avs would probably have to do a separate deal to make it work.


    Why exactly not... your team is massively overachieving because of goaltending. The retirement of Bergeron and Krejčí firmly shut your window shut. You guys don't have the organizational depth to keep contending... sure you have some pieces but not enough depth to really compete especially down the middle. You guys should get some draft picks and start the process of rebuilding
    Jan. 7 at 4:31 p.m.
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    Canes pass. That offer doesn’t get a conversation for Necas started.
    Jan. 7 at 4:33 p.m.
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    Quoting: seanrushton
    Why exactly not... your team is massively overachieving because of goaltending. The retirement of Bergeron and Krejčí firmly shut your window shut. You guys don't have the organizational depth to keep contending... sure you have some pieces but not enough depth to really compete especially down the middle. You guys should get some draft picks and start the process of rebuilding


    You could says avs are overachieving because of one line.
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    Jan. 7 at 4:36 p.m.
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    Quoting: Cub19
    You could says avs are overachieving because of one line.


    The Avs have a very good well-rounded roster... It's just the first line pulling their weight a lot more this season. Don't get me wrong the Avs probably aren't cup contenders (that depth is not great) but they aren't just relying on goaltending to bail out a lot of issues
    Jan. 7 at 4:37 p.m.
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    Quoting: seanrushton
    Why exactly not... your team is massively overachieving because of goaltending. The retirement of Bergeron and Krejčí firmly shut your window shut. You guys don't have the organizational depth to keep contending... sure you have some pieces but not enough depth to really compete especially down the middle. You guys should get some draft picks and start the process of rebuilding


    Theres been cup finalists with far worse rosters just because you're tired of seeing the Bruins in the playoffs doesn't mean the team has to rebuild
    The future is not nearly as bleak as other fanbases want it to be we've had three stud rookies breakout this season and with tens of millions in cap space next year I think the team will be just fine
    And of course Pasta and McAvoy are locked up long term too
    Jan. 7 at 4:44 p.m.
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    Quoting: seanrushton
    The Avs have a very good well-rounded roster... It's just the first line pulling their weight a lot more this season. Don't get me wrong the Avs probably aren't cup contenders (that depth is not great) but they aren't just relying on goaltending to bail out a lot of issues


    Avs lack depth especially at 2nd line center and the injury to Lekhonen don't help as you can see. Avs don't even have a 2nd line at all.
    Jan. 7 at 4:44 p.m.
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    Quoting: Quaider11
    Theres been cup finalists with far worse rosters just because you're tired of seeing the Bruins in the playoffs doesn't mean the team has to rebuild
    The future is not nearly as bleak as other fanbases want it to be we've had three stud rookies breakout this season and with tens of millions in cap space next year I think the team will be just fine
    And of course Pasta and McAvoy are locked up long term too


    They put three rookies into lineup…but I don’t think I would call them studs yet.
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    Jan. 7 at 4:47 p.m.
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    Quoting: Quaider11
    Theres been cup finalists with far worse rosters just because you're tired of seeing the Bruins in the playoffs doesn't mean the team has to rebuild
    The future is not nearly as bleak as other fanbases want it to be we've had three stud rookies breakout this season and with tens of millions in cap space next year I think the team will be just fine
    Not to mention Pasta and McAvoy are locked up long term


    You have Morgan Geekie and Pavel Zacha as your 1/2C combo this season. One of the main things teams need to be a contender is to have a high-end to elite 1C to score and all of the cup-contending teams have them (Sebastian Aho in Carolina, Hughes in New Jersey, Matthews in Toronto, and etc.) except for you. You guys don't even have a guy who'd be a top-six center on a playoff contender... Geekie is a bottom line center on most cup contenders and Zacha is maybe a 3c on most cup contenders. There isn't a legitimate 1C on the market this offseason who can fix that absolutely massive hole.

    Pasta and McAvoy are nice pieces but you can't just win a cup with two superstars and a bunch of trash just ask the Oilers.

    The Bruins' advanced analytics are not good this season... sub 50% CF%, SF%, xGF%, HDCF%
    Jan. 7 at 4:50 p.m.
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    Quoting: NHLfan10506
    They put three rookies into lineup…but I don’t think I would call them studs yet.


    True the sample size is small but I’m fairly confident that Beecher Lohrei and Poitras will all earn long term spots in the roster
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    Jan. 7 at 4:52 p.m.
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    Quoting: Quaider11
    True the sample size is small but I’m fairly confident that Beecher Lohrei and Poitras will all earn long term spots in the roster


    They are going to be good depth pieces but that's probably about it
    Jan. 7 at 4:53 p.m.
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    Quoting: seanrushton
    You have Morgan Geekie and Pavel Zacha as your 1/2C combo this season. One of the main things teams need to be a contender is to have a high-end to elite 1C to score and all of the cup-contending teams have them (Sebastian Aho in Carolina, Hughes in New Jersey, Matthews in Toronto, and etc.) except for you. You guys don't even have a guy who'd be a top-six center on a playoff contender... Geekie is a bottom line center on most cup contenders and Zacha is maybe a 3c on most cup contenders. There isn't a legitimate 1C on the market this offseason who can fix that absolutely massive hole.

    Pasta and McAvoy are nice pieces but you can't just win a cup with two superstars and a bunch of trash just ask the Oilers.

    The Bruins' advanced analytics are not good this season... sub 50% CF%, SF%, xGF%, HDCF%


    Dude the playoffs are not nearly as predictable as you seem to believe
    All it really takes is a PDO heater and this team could win the cup
    Regardless of how mediocre the underlying metrics are the Bruins are a first place team and they aren’t rebuilding
    Jan. 7 at 4:53 p.m.
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    Quoting: seanrushton
    You have Morgan Geekie and Pavel Zacha as your 1/2C combo this season. One of the main things teams need to be a contender is to have an elite 1C to score and all of the cup-contending teams have them (Sebastian Aho in Carolina, Hughes in New Jersey, Matthews in Toronto, and etc.) except for you. You guys don't even have a guy who'd be a top-six center on a playoff contender... Geekie is a bottom line center on most cup contenders and Zacha is maybe a 3c on most cup contenders. There isn't a legitimate 1C on the market this offseason who can fix that absolutely massive hole.

    Pasta and McAvoy are nice pieces but you can't just win a cup with two superstars and a bunch of trash just ask the Oilers.

    The Bruins' advanced analytics are not good this season... sub 50% CF%, SF%, xGF%, HDCF%


    Zacha is not playing center. Zacha-Geekie-Pasta has been the top line since Xmas break and has taken off.

    But, back to your question, what 1st line NHL center you offering up for Swayman. None right. What high end center prospect that is NHL ready you offering up. Agsin none.

    Not interested in picks or mid level prospects. You don’t have what Boston would want for him. That simple.
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    Jan. 7 at 4:56 p.m.
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    Dude the playoffs are not nearly as predictable as you seem to believe
    All it really takes is a PDO heater and this team could win the cup
    Regardless of how mediocre the underlying metrics are the Bruins are a first place team and they aren’t rebuilding


    "Dude the playoffs are not nearly as predictable as you seem to believe"- Sure they can be a bit unpredictable but you guys don't have the talent to win the cup or go far unless you guys really luck out.
    Jan. 7 at 4:57 p.m.
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    Boston passes, They're going to re-sign Jeremy Swayman, Linus Ullmark will be the one out the door.

    Carolina isn't trading Martin Necas for such a little offer. If he's moved it's for a major package not this poor offer.
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    Jan. 7 at 4:59 p.m.
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    Quoting: Gofnut999
    Zacha is not playing center. Zacha-Geekie-Pasta has been the top line since Xmas break and has taken off.

    But, back to your question, what 1st line NHL center you offering up for Swayman. None right. What high end center prospect that is NHL ready you offering up. Agsin none.

    Not interested in picks or mid level prospects. You don’t have what Boston would want for him. That simple.


    Swayman isn't worth a first-line NHL center or a high-end prospect... goalies are just not worth it except in very rare circumstances
    Zacha-Geekie-Pasta is awful analytically and has only scored one more than they've let in on the ice (35.29 HDCF%, 44.60 xGF%, 44.00 SCF%)
    Jan. 7 at 5:02 p.m.
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    Quoting: seanrushton
    Swayman isn't worth a first-line NHL center or a high-end prospect... goalies are just not worth it except in very rare circumstances
    Zacha-Geekie-Pasta is awful analytically and has only scored one more than they've let in on the ice (35.29 HDCF%, 44.60 xGF%, 44.00 SCF%)

    You’d think the Canes pristine analytics would have gotten them a couple ECF wins
    Jan. 7 at 5:04 p.m.
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    Quoting: seanrushton
    Swayman isn't worth a first-line NHL center or a high-end prospect... goalies are just not worth it except in very rare circumstances
    Zacha-Geekie-Pasta is awful analytically and has only scored one more than they've let in on the ice (35.29 HDCF%, 44.60 xGF%, 44.00 SCF%)


    But that’s the only reason they’d have to trade him. Otherwise they keep him.

    They are not there just to serve your needs. And trading Swayman does not make them better now or later.
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    Jan. 7 at 5:16 p.m.
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    Quoting: Quaider11
    You’d think the Canes pristine analytics would have gotten them a couple ECF wins


    Injuries and Inexperience are more the cause than the analytics... We didn't have our best true goal scorer last year due to a knee injury and were down 3 of our top 6. We're even better on paper than last year and are now rounding into form
    Jan. 7 at 5:26 p.m.
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    Quoting: seanrushton
    Injuries and Inexperience are more the cause than the analytics... We didn't have our best true goal scorer last year due to a knee injury and were down 3 of our top 6. We're even better on paper than last year and are now rounding into form

    My point is hockey is very unpredictable especially in the playoffs when factors like luck momentum and injuries can result in victories for teams that on paper shouldn’t win
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    Jan. 7 at 5:29 p.m.
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    Bruins will keep Swayman.
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    Jan. 7 at 5:34 p.m.
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    Quoting: Quaider11
    My point is hockey is very unpredictable especially in the playoffs when factors like luck momentum and injuries can result in victories for teams that on paper shouldn’t win


    And that's a fair point but the odds aren't great for you guys to go far you guys are currently constructed
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    Jan. 7 at 5:55 p.m.
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    Quoting: seanrushton
    And that's a fair point but the odds aren't great for you guys to go far you guys are currently constructed


    I'd agree with that but I'll take those odds over rebuilding
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    Jan. 7 at 5:57 p.m.
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    Quoting: Gofnut999
    But that’s the only reason they’d have to trade him. Otherwise they keep him.

    They are not there just to serve your needs. And trading Swayman does not make them better now or later.


    Agreed. If they don't get a good prospect/high draft pick (which they easily should) then keeping him makes more sense.
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    Jan. 7 at 5:58 p.m.
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    Quoting: seanrushton
    Why exactly not... your team is massively overachieving because of goaltending. The retirement of Bergeron and Krejčí firmly shut your window shut. You guys don't have the organizational depth to keep contending... sure you have some pieces but not enough depth to really compete especially down the middle. You guys should get some draft picks and start the process of rebuilding


    So our goaltending is excellent and keeping us afloat, but we should trade the RFA goaltender? And for what exactly, a late 1st round pick? Did you think this all the way through? I understand your premise, but you are arguing for trading the RFA instead of the UFA. That is complete nonsense.
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