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Just tell Marner there is 0 chance we resign him for over 9M to force waive

Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 14, 2024
Published: Jan. 14, 2024
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Tell Marner we will not pay over 9 M to resign because his play has not been up to par to force him to waive, make a trade to a Canadian team so he stays closer to home maybe OTT.
Get pieces we really need and have been missing since we got Rielly a real right hand physical defender.
I love Woll but relying on him now as our starter is a crazy plan.
Add more depth players that play physical .
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TOR
  1. Borgen, William
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Our 3rd pays for another team to retain on Brodie at 2.5M
SEA
  1. Brodie, TJ
  2. Robertson, Nicholas
  3. 2024 3rd round pick (NYI)
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TOR
  1. Merzlikins, Elvis
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Elvis may not be worth a 1st alone but taking on Samsonov makes it worth it.
CBJ
  1. Samsonov, Ilya
  2. 2024 1st round pick (TOR)
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Jan. 14 at 2:35 p.m.
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Nice try.
Canucks pass.
Kuzmenko is not available.
No thanks.
Moving on.
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Jan. 14 at 2:38 p.m.
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Quoting: Vancity2196
Nice try.
Canucks pass.
Kuzmenko is not available.
No thanks.
Moving on.


Huh I am pretty sure he wanted out or VAN wanted him out didn't they?
Or were these just rumors?
Jan. 14 at 2:39 p.m.
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Huh I am pretty sure he wanted out or VAN wanted him out didn't they?
Or were these just rumors?


He isn’t a great fit in Tocchet’s system, but no official trade request and the Canucks are hopeful things will work out. I think they’d move him for the right offer, but this isn’t it. No interest in taking on Kampf’s contract
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Jan. 14 at 2:39 p.m.
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So you tell him you will not pay him more than 9 million. Wow and he waives because of it. This lame because he can get paid by Toronto and then go out in FA and get what he wants and Toronto gets nothing. Sorry but lame concept
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Jan. 14 at 2:41 p.m.
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So you tell him you will not pay him more than 9 million. Wow and he waives because of it. This lame because he can get paid by Toronto and then go out in FA and get what he wants and Toronto gets nothing. Sorry but lame concept


This just forces him to waive , we are trading him and getting a good return.
I am confused did you not look at the trades and just read the title?
Jan. 14 at 2:42 p.m.
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You realize that the Leafs can't talk contract numbers with Marner until he has 1 year remaining on his deal right (I think its July 1st of the year before his contract expires)? Also, the NHLPA would never allow a team to give a player such an ultimatum.
Jan. 14 at 2:43 p.m.
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Huh I am pretty sure he wanted out or VAN wanted him out didn't they?
Or were these just rumors?


They’re just rumours.
Jan. 14 at 2:43 p.m.
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Marner is a Toronto native playing for the Toronto Maple Leafs.

There's zero chance he waives his NMC.

If you don't want to pay him what he's worth, he just signs with another team when he becomes a UFA and the Leafs get nothing.

It's that simple.
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Jan. 14 at 2:45 p.m.
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This just forces him to waive , we are trading him and getting a good return.
I am confused did you not look at the trades and just read the title?


It forces him to do nothing. He has a contract with Leafs and there is nothing Leafs can do becuase of NMC. If they say they are not going to pay him he can walk when his contract is up,this in no way force anyrhing. He will e. Free Agent when his contract is up and he can goto to Ottawa and get paid and Leafs get nothing in return. Again you are not forcing g his hand he is forcing g the Leafs hand and he with a NMC and pissed can screw over Leafs.
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Jan. 14 at 2:45 p.m.
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Marner is not a player I'd target but for that price I'd take him then flip him somewhere else.
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Jan. 14 at 2:46 p.m.
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if samsonov costs a 1st to move than elvis costs four, one for each year of that awful deal.
Terrible return for marner,just awful
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Jan. 14 at 2:51 p.m.
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Quoting: mikearky
So you tell him you will not pay him more than 9 million. Wow and he waives because of it. This lame because he can get paid by Toronto and then go out in FA and get what he wants and Toronto gets nothing. Sorry but lame concept


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This just forces him to waive , we are trading him and getting a good return.
I am confused did you not look at the trades and just read the title?


Just because you won’t extend him doesn’t mean he needs to waive a clause in a contract. You can tell him it’s over and you want to move him for assets and beg him to waive. But he doesn’t have to do so. Now if TOR is out of a playoff spot then he may consider waiving to play for a playoff team
Jan. 14 at 2:58 p.m.
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How does telling Marner they won't pay him force him to waive? He's in a good situation in Toronto playing a ton of minutes, being a key part of both the PP and PK, etc. Why wouldn't he just play it out to pad his stats next season, sign a big deal as a UFA and leave the Leafs with nothing?
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Jan. 14 at 3:00 p.m.
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It forces him to do nothing. He has a contract with Leafs and there is nothing Leafs can do becuase of NMC. If they say they are not going to pay him he can walk when his contract is up,this in no way force anyrhing. He will e. Free Agent when his contract is up and he can goto to Ottawa and get paid and Leafs get nothing in return. Again you are not forcing g his hand he is forcing g the Leafs hand and he with a NMC and pissed can screw over Leafs.


Honestly if that happens I could care less he is garbage and makes more mistakes then good passes.
And he is a big part of why TML never get calls from refs because Marner crys after every time some one touches him.
Biggest mistake in past 7 years TML made was not moving Marner before his NMC kicked in.
Jan. 14 at 3:01 p.m.
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Just because you won’t extend him doesn’t mean he needs to waive a clause in a contract. You can tell him it’s over and you want to move him for assets and beg him to waive. But he doesn’t have to do so. Now if TOR is out of a playoff spot then he may consider waiving to play for a playoff team


If it does not work who cares he is pure garbage for 10.93M and expects a big raise lmao , cry baby that never shows up in playoffs.
Jan. 14 at 3:02 p.m.
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How does telling Marner they won't pay him force him to waive? He's in a good situation in Toronto playing a ton of minutes, being a key part of both the PP and PK, etc. Why wouldn't he just play it out to pad his stats next season, sign a big deal as a UFA and leave the Leafs with nothing?


Pee on his corn flakes every day then I don't care what it takes but Marner has to go or TML can exit the playoffs early every year.
Jan. 14 at 3:12 p.m.
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Marner counters with fine see yah then you lose him for nothing

As look where that got us with Willy

He asked for 10. Leafs countered with 8.8 few months later he on 120 point pace got 11.5m

Watch the same happen with Marner he asks for 12m we say 9m he goes on 130 point pace 13m
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Jan. 14 at 3:30 p.m.
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So Marner is told he's not getting resigned and how does this force him to Waive his NMC? Someone will pay a 90 point Selke caliber winger he stays plays like he has, and tells you to piss off he's not letting you get s*** for him
Jan. 14 at 4:08 p.m.
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You're in for a rude awakening if you think Marner will take a hometown discount. 🤭
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Jan. 14 at 5:22 p.m.
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Pee on his corn flakes every day then I don't care what it takes but Marner has to go or TML can exit the playoffs early every year.


you are the kind of leaf fan who deserves every bad luck and choke they ever did.
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Jan. 14 at 6:52 p.m.
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you are the kind of leaf fan who deserves every bad luck and choke they ever did.


After almost 50 years of waiting for a cup I would think at some point TML maybe actually get to a Stanley Cup Final but I guess we just have to wait 57 more years for Shanahans plan to kick in.
And should I feel bad or sorry for players who really suck like Marner and do not even come close to earning what they make now and are already crying for a raise?
Jan. 14 at 6:53 p.m.
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So Marner is told he's not getting resigned and how does this force him to Waive his NMC? Someone will pay a 90 point Selke caliber winger he stays plays like he has, and tells you to piss off he's not letting you get s*** for him


That would free up 10.9 M of cap space to actually make the rest of the team no problem there.
Jan. 14 at 7:15 p.m.
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Marner still refuses to waive.
Jan. 14 at 7:16 p.m.
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Quoting: Campabee
You realize that the Leafs can't talk contract numbers with Marner until he has 1 year remaining on his deal right (I think its July 1st of the year before his contract expires)? Also, the NHLPA would never allow a team to give a player such an ultimatum.


They can talk all they want, he just can't sign anything until then. A team most certainly can tell a player we'll pay you this much but not a dime more and the NHLPA can't do anything about it.
Jan. 14 at 8:02 p.m.
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Quoting: Leafsmustwin
That would free up 10.9 M of cap space to actually make the rest of the team no problem there.


You're not getting assets for him though if they do him sleazy like that he blocks any attempts to move him .
 
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