How many flyers games have you watch this last year?

0 lol. I mostly watch my team off the NHL website.

If anyone has watched more than 10 Flyers games, you will understand why Mason is appearing to be inconsistent. It;s the defense. Andrew MacDonald is the second defensemen on the Flyers. The Flyers have Wayne Simmonds on the PK. The Flyers have no good PKers other than Couturier.

I'm not sure why everyone throws 5v5 SV% out the window? I mean, the Flyers PK ranking the lat 3 years : 20th (79.8%) ; 20th (80.5%) ; 27th (77.1%) or 79.1% average.

How the hell can you be 20th with that 79.8% is my question?

https://www.sportingcharts.com/nhl/stats/team-penalty-kill-percentage/2016/

Thats pretty sad.

I'd be curious to see the shot distribution at 5v5 for Steve Mason last year or the last few years compared to someone like Corey Crawford.

agreed.

I have no bias when I discuss any evaluation of players, contrary to what you said.

Can you provide another reason as to why 5v5 SV% isn't "allowed" to be used. I mean, Mason has what.

actually, I did my math wrong on the goalies. Mason has a .931 5v5 SV% and BoB has a .926% 5v5 SV% - editing them all within the hour

5v5 SV% NHL Leaders Last 3 Seasons .

.937 - Price
.932 - Anderson ; Raanta ; Murray
.931 - Darling ; Crawford ; Mason ; Dubnyuk
.930 - Holtby
.928 - Lundquvist
.927 - Elliot ; Grubauer* ; Loungo
.926 - Bobrovsky ; Talbot ; Quick
.925 - Rinne
.924 - Andersen ; Gibson
.923 - Fleury ; Smith
.922 - Greiss
.921 - Valiselvski
.920 - Allen
.919 - Bishop
.918 - Jones

*13-14 used due to incomplete statistics in 14-15

edit : the average of the 26 goalies is .926 5v5 SV%

Out of curiosity, where are you getting these numbers from? I'm using puckalytics.com, and I have the following:
Price: .9395
Murray: .9343
Raanta: .9341
Dubnyk: .9332
Anderson: .9330
Mason: .9329
Darling: .9327
Holtby: .9323
Crawford: .9319
Schneider: .9290
Rinne: .9289
Luongo: .9287
Lundqvist, Gibson: .9284
Bobrovsky, Elliott: .9283
Quick: .9281
Talbot: .9268
Fleury, Rask: .9265
Andersen: .9256
Bishop: .9255
Vasilevskiy: .9248
Hellebuyck: .9246
Jones: .9202

Reading the FAQ, it seems they use the NHL's official data sheets on their website.

I've been using HockeyReference. I've added the last two digits of the SV% 5v5, and then divide by 3

It doesn't matter. You want to base everything off stats, that's what I am doing. Your PK being so low has a huge part to do with goaltending. If he can't come up with a big save on the PK then you won't win certain games because of special team play. You want to use all the numbers, which is fine. They back up your argument, which is great to get your point across. You just can't use even strength, when he is on the ice for both PP and PK as well.

I'm a fan of one of the most penalized teams, and because our goaltender can bail us out half the time, they have a decent PK percentage. I understand at even strength he is pretty good, but as a whole he is not. You don't get to put the sole blame on the defense when its the goalie at times as well. It is usually 50/50 on that.

On another note, lets create a new thread for this before they get upset with us.

I base the majority of my contention off of stats, but actually watching Mason almost every game last year, the defense that has been in front of him is god-awful. The PK has more so to do with the pylons in front of Mason. What the hell is he supposed to do? He can't carry the team like Price.

The defense in front of him is some of the worst in the NHL. I mean, Ivan Provorov was our best defenseman last year.

I get that PK has a lot to do with the goaltending, but when you have Chris Vandevelde and Andrew MacDonald and Brandon Manning on your PK, your're going to get screwed playing Backstrom/Ovi/Oshie/Kuznetzov/Shattenkirk

Who needs to be your best penalty killer? The goalie. Mason isn't that guy

Hahah. Mase plays good enough on the power play given the circumstances. Fail clearing after fail clearing after terrible markups by MacDonald.

Cut the guy some slack. He does what he can given the god-awful circumstances. He thrives on teams that, I don't know, have pylons as PKers

Agreed. Boston had a great penalty kill, but Rask was trash

Updated predictions:

Atlantic:
1 OTT 105
2 TOR 103
3 TBL 98
4 BUF 87
5 MTL 85
6 BOS 82
7 DET 78
8 FLA 70

Metropolitan:
1 PIT 118
2 WSH 110
3 NYI 100
4 NYR 99
5 CBJ 92
6 CAR 89
7 PHI 86
8 NJD 67

Central:
1 NSH 107
2 STL 100
3 MIN 90
4 WPG 90
5 DAL 88
6 CHI 88
7 COL 71

Pacific:
1 SJS 119
2 EDM 113
3 CGY 93
4 ARI 92
5 LAK 91
6 ANA 89
7 VAN 77
8 Vegas 59

Playoffs:
OTT - NYR - 4-2 NYR
TOR - TBL - 4-2 TBL
PIT - CBJ - 4-2 PIT
WSH - NYI - 4-1 WSH
NSH - ARI - 4-1 NSH
STL - MIN - 4-0 STL
SJS - LAK - 4-1 SJS
EDM - CGY - 4-3 EDM

TBL - NYR - 4-3 TBL
PIT - WSH - 4-3 WSH
NSH - STL - 4-1 NSH
SJS - EDM - 4-3 SJS

WSH - TBL - 4-1 WSH
SJS - NSH - 4-3 SJS

SJS - WSH - 4-2 WSH
Conn Smythe: Alex Ovechkin

How did Anaheim get worse this offseason? Chicago?

Anaheim's only trying to bug the other team. their division is pretty good so it's gonna be hard to get in.

Chicago lost Panarin, Hossa, etc and are getting worse.

?????

wtf does that even mean lol

i mean Kesler, Perry, Bieksa, Boll, Ritchie, etc are all about bugging the other team, injuring players, etc.

so they are only trying to bug teams and not win games? . They didnt get worse. They are still a huge threat