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GM Game: Edmonton Oilers - New GM

Created by: NateElder12
Team: 2017-18 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 10, 2017
Published: Jul. 10, 2017
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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Actual Cap Space: $7,988,417

*** ON THE BLOCK***
1. Ward
2. Lucic
3. Stempniak

*** UNTOUCHABLE***
1. McDavid
2. Klefbom
3. Puljujarvi
4. Hertl
5. Zucker
6. Trocheck
7. Sanheim
8. Veselainen
9. Hartman

... if you're offering on these players it will have to be a massive overpay.

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Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$3,100,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$700,000
Kassian, Zach
4$1,800,000
Laurikainen, Eetu
2$650,000
Musil, DAvid
2$650,000
Khaira, Jujhar
3$900,000
Pakarinen, Iiro
3$925,000
Keating, Austen (D)
3$750,000
Martin, Max (D)
3$725,000
Bowers, Shane (D)
3$925,000
Tyszka, Jarret (D)
3$825,000
Goligoski, Alex
4$4,653,750
Vesalainen, Kristian
3$925,000
Demers, Jason
4$3,500,000
Gryba, Eric
2$855,000
Pitlick, Tyler
3$1,000,000
Grant, Derek
1$650,000
Sandberg, Filip
2$925,000
Williams, Justin
2$5,000,000
Engelland, Deryk
1$650,000
McKegg, Greg
1$700,000
Ronning (RIghts owned), Ty
1$650,000
Comtois, Maxime
3$925,000
Trades
1.
EDM
  1. Granlund, Markus
Additional Details:
Burns
VAN
    Drai
    2.
    EDM
      Burns from VAN, From SJS
      SJS
      3.
      EDM
      1. Stempniak, Lee
      Additional Details:
      Acquired from CBJ, from ARZ, from CAR
      CAR
      4.
      5.
      EDM
      1. 2019 2nd round pick (NSH)
      Additional Details:
      From CBJ trade
      NSH
      6.
      EDM
      1. Collins, Ryan
      Additional Details:
      2017 2nd rd pick
      CBJ
        2017 5th rd pick
        REinhart
        7.
        EDM
        1. 2018 5th round pick (STL)
        Additional Details:
        FRomm CBJ Trade
        STL
        8.
        EDM
        1. 2018 2nd round pick (COL)
        Additional Details:
        2018 3rd rd pick (MIN)
        2018 3rd Rd Pick (NJD)
        COL
          2017 2nd rd pick
          2017 3rd rd pick
          9.
          EDM
          1. 2018 3rd round pick (MIN)
          MIN
          10.
          EDM
          1. 2018 3rd round pick (NJD)
          NJD
          11.
          EDM
          1. Martin, Paul
          2. 2018 5th round pick (SJS)
          Additional Details:
          ARmalis
          12.
          EDM
          1. Kühnhackl, Tom
          2. Prow, Ethan
          3. 2019 6th round pick (PIT)
          Additional Details:
          2017 1st
          PIT
          1. Baertschi, Sven
          2. 2019 7th round pick (EDM)
          Additional Details:
          2017 2nd
          13.
          EDM
          1. Siebenaler, Blake
          2. 2018 3rd round pick (CBJ)
          Additional Details:
          2018 5th
          2019 2nd
          Baertschi
          CBJ
            2017 1st rd pick
            2017 4th rd pick
            Pouliot
            14.
            EDM
            1. Collins, Ryan
            Additional Details:
            2017 2nd
            CBJ
              REinhart
              15.
              16.
              17.
              18.
              19.
              20.
              21.
              22.
              EDM
                contract fixes
                23.
                EDM
                1. Stepan, Derek
                Additional Details:
                Deal with NYR in gm game
                ARI
                24.
                EDM
                  Stepan
                  NYR
                  1. Bear, Ethan
                  2. Benning, Matthew
                  3. Granlund, Markus
                  4. 2018 2nd round pick (COL)
                  5. 2018 4th round pick (EDM)
                  25.
                  EDM
                  1. Hertl, Tomas
                  2. Ward, Joel
                  Additional Details:
                  DEAL WITH VAN
                  SJS
                  26.
                  EDM
                  1. McNabb, Brayden
                  Additional Details:
                  DEAL WITH VAN
                  VGK
                  27.
                  EDM
                    VAN DEAL
                    VAN
                    1. Kassian, Zach
                    2. Larsson, Adam
                    3. Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
                    4. Nurse, Darnell
                    5. 2018 6th round pick (EDM)
                    Additional Details:
                    VAN DEAL
                    28.
                    EDM
                      ANDERS LEE DEAL
                      FLA
                      1. Benson, Tyler
                      2. 2018 2nd round pick (EDM)
                      3. 2019 1st round pick (EDM)
                      29.
                      30.
                      EDM
                      1. Zucker, Jason
                      Additional Details:
                      PART OF BURNS DEAL
                      MIN
                        PART OF BURNS DEAL
                        31.
                        EDM
                        1. Saarela, Aleksi
                        Additional Details:
                        PART OF BURNS DEAL
                        CAR
                          PART OF BURNS DEAL
                          32.
                          EDM
                          1. 2018 1st round pick (NYR)
                          Additional Details:
                          PART OF BURNS DEAL
                          NYR
                            PART OF BURNS DEAL
                            33.
                            EDM
                              CAROLINA TRADE
                              CAR
                              1. Burns, Brent
                              2. Jones, Caleb
                              3. 2018 3rd round pick (EDM)
                              4. 2018 7th round pick (EDM)
                              Additional Details:
                              CAROLINA TRADE
                              34.
                              EDM
                              1. Foegele, Warren
                              Additional Details:
                              PART OF MAROON DEAL
                              CAR
                              35.
                              EDM
                              1. Hronek, Filip
                              Additional Details:
                              PART OF MAROON DEAL
                              DET
                              36.
                              EDM
                                Hronek/Foegele
                                STL
                                1. Maroon, Patrick
                                2. 2018 5th round pick (EDM)
                                37.
                                EDM
                                1. 2019 1st round pick (PHI)
                                Additional Details:
                                James Neal
                                38.
                                EDM
                                1. Neal, James
                                Additional Details:
                                Part of Eberle Deal
                                VGK
                                39.
                                EDM
                                  Frederick Andersen
                                  Lars Eller
                                  TOR
                                  1. Kühnhackl, Tom
                                  2. Talbot, Cam
                                  3. 2018 3rd round pick (MIN)
                                  4. 2018 5th round pick (SJS)
                                  40.
                                  EDM
                                  1. Andersen, Frederik
                                  Additional Details:
                                  Talbot Deal
                                  TOR
                                  41.
                                  42.
                                  EDM
                                    Goligoski
                                    MIN
                                    1. Martin, Paul
                                    2. 2019 4th round pick (EDM)
                                    3. 2019 6th round pick (EDM)
                                    43.
                                    EDM
                                      Lee/3rd to CBJ
                                      Stepan to PHI
                                      PHI
                                      1. Lee, Anders
                                      2. Stepan, Derek
                                      3. 2019 3rd round pick (EDM)
                                      44.
                                      FLA
                                        FROM PHI DEAL
                                        45.
                                        CHI
                                          FROM PHI/CBJ DEAL
                                          46.
                                          EDM
                                          1. 2019 4th round pick (CBJ)
                                          Additional Details:
                                          FROM PHI/CBJ DEAL
                                          CBJ
                                            FROM PHI/CBJ DEAL
                                            47.
                                            48.
                                            EDM
                                              Vesalainen
                                              49.
                                              EDM
                                                CONTRACT FIX
                                                50.
                                                CHI
                                                1. Bowers, Shane (D)
                                                2. Neal, James ($2,500,000 retained)
                                                Additional Details:
                                                Conditional 5th
                                                51.
                                                EDM
                                                  Ty Ronning
                                                  2018 2nd (ARZ)
                                                  2019 4th (CAR)
                                                  Sheahan
                                                  NYR
                                                  1. Khaira, Jujhar
                                                  2. Letestu, Mark
                                                  3. 2018 3rd round pick (CBJ)
                                                  52.
                                                  53.
                                                  EDM
                                                  1. 2018 2nd round pick (ARI)
                                                  FLA
                                                  54.
                                                  EDM
                                                  1. 2019 4th round pick (CAR)
                                                  CAR
                                                  55.
                                                  EDM
                                                  TOR
                                                  1. Severson, Damon
                                                  2. 2019 5th round pick (EDM)
                                                  Additional Details:
                                                  Betker
                                                  Platzer
                                                  56.
                                                  VAN
                                                    Severson Deal
                                                    57.
                                                    PIT
                                                      Severson Deal
                                                      58.
                                                      COL
                                                      1. Betker, Ben
                                                      2. Platzer, Kyle
                                                      Additional Details:
                                                      Severson Deal
                                                      59.
                                                      EDM
                                                        2018 6th (TOR)
                                                        60.
                                                        EDM
                                                        1. 2018 6th round pick (TOR)
                                                        TOR
                                                        61.
                                                        EDM
                                                        1. Iafallo, Alex
                                                        Additional Details:
                                                        SIGNED AS FA
                                                        LAK
                                                          SIGNED AS FA
                                                          62.
                                                          EDM
                                                          1. Delia, Collin
                                                          2. Kämpf, David
                                                          Additional Details:
                                                          SIGNED AS FA
                                                          CHI
                                                            SIGNED AS FA
                                                            63.
                                                            EDM
                                                              NOT ON TEAM
                                                              64.
                                                              65.
                                                              EDM
                                                                NOT ON TEAM
                                                                ANA
                                                                1. Musil, DAvid
                                                                2. Callahan, Mitch
                                                                3. Malone, Brad
                                                                4. Pasquale, Edward
                                                                5. Rattie, Ty
                                                                Additional Details:
                                                                NOT ON TEAM
                                                                66.
                                                                EDM
                                                                  NOT ON TEAM
                                                                  ANA
                                                                  1. Laurikainen, Eetu
                                                                  2. Stanton, Ryan
                                                                  Additional Details:
                                                                  NOT ON TEAM
                                                                  67.
                                                                  EDM
                                                                  1. 2018 1st round pick (BOS)
                                                                  2. 2020 2nd round pick (BOS)
                                                                  BOS
                                                                  68.
                                                                  NYI
                                                                  1. Demers, Jason
                                                                  Buyouts
                                                                  Retained Salary Transactions
                                                                  DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
                                                                  2018
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                                                                  Logo of the BOS
                                                                  Logo of the ARI
                                                                  Logo of the NJD
                                                                  Logo of the STL
                                                                  Logo of the TOR
                                                                  2019
                                                                  Logo of the PHI
                                                                  Logo of the EDM
                                                                  Logo of the NSH
                                                                  Logo of the CBJ
                                                                  Logo of the CAR
                                                                  Logo of the PIT
                                                                  2020
                                                                  Logo of the EDM
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                                                                  ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
                                                                  36$75,000,000$74,407,415$825,000$6,942,500$592,585

                                                                  Roster

                                                                  Left WingCentreRight Wing
                                                                  $925,000$925,000
                                                                  LW, RW
                                                                  UFA - 2
                                                                  $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
                                                                  C
                                                                  UFA - 1
                                                                  $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
                                                                  RW
                                                                  UFA - 2
                                                                  $2,000,000$2,000,000
                                                                  LW, RW
                                                                  UFA - 1
                                                                  $4,750,000$4,750,000
                                                                  C, RW
                                                                  UFA - 5
                                                                  Williams, Justin
                                                                  $5,000,000$5,000,000
                                                                  $863,333$863,333
                                                                  C, RW
                                                                  UFA - 1
                                                                  $3,000,000$3,000,000
                                                                  C
                                                                  UFA - 1
                                                                  $692,500$692,500 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
                                                                  RW, LW
                                                                  UFA - 1
                                                                  $3,500,000$3,500,000
                                                                  C
                                                                  UFA - 1
                                                                  Grant, Derek
                                                                  $650,000$650,000
                                                                  $925,000$925,000
                                                                  C
                                                                  UFA - 2
                                                                  $753,333$753,333 (Performance Bonus$207,500$208K)
                                                                  C, LW
                                                                  RFA - 3
                                                                  Comtois, Maxime
                                                                  $925,000$925,000
                                                                  Vesalainen, Kristian
                                                                  $925,000$925,000
                                                                  $746,667$746,667 (Performance Bonus$70,000$70K)
                                                                  LW, RW
                                                                  UFA - 3
                                                                  $2,075,000$2,075,000
                                                                  LW, C
                                                                  UFA - 1
                                                                  Pitlick, Tyler
                                                                  $1,000,000$1,000,000
                                                                  $5,250,000$5,250,000
                                                                  LW, RW
                                                                  NMC
                                                                  UFA - 6
                                                                  Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
                                                                  $4,167,000$4,167,000
                                                                  LD
                                                                  UFA - 6
                                                                  $4,450,000$4,450,000
                                                                  RD
                                                                  M-NTC
                                                                  UFA - 3
                                                                  $5,000,000$5,000,000
                                                                  G
                                                                  M-NTC
                                                                  UFA - 4
                                                                  Goligoski, Alex
                                                                  $4,653,750$4,653,750
                                                                  $728,333$728,333
                                                                  RD
                                                                  RFA - 4
                                                                  $750,000$750,000
                                                                  G
                                                                  UFA - 1
                                                                  $1,700,000$1,700,000
                                                                  LD
                                                                  UFA - 1
                                                                  $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
                                                                  LD/RD
                                                                  UFA - 2
                                                                  $872,500$872,500
                                                                  LD
                                                                  UFA - 2
                                                                  $1,600,000$1,600,000
                                                                  LD
                                                                  UFA - 4
                                                                  ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
                                                                  Ronning (RIghts owned), Ty
                                                                  $650,000$650,000
                                                                  $2,500,000$2,500,000
                                                                  RW
                                                                  UFA - 1
                                                                  $3,275,000$3,275,000
                                                                  RW
                                                                  M-NTC
                                                                  UFA - 1
                                                                  $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$600,000$600K)
                                                                  LW, RW
                                                                  RFA - 1
                                                                  Gryba, Eric
                                                                  $855,000$855,000
                                                                  Sandberg, Filip
                                                                  $925,000$925,000
                                                                  $853,333$853,333 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
                                                                  RD
                                                                  UFA - 3
                                                                  Engelland, Deryk
                                                                  $650,000$650,000

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                                                                  Jul. 11, 2017 at 4:05 p.m.
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                                                                  Quoting: ricochetii
                                                                  Quoting: NateElder12


                                                                  add me on twitter @NateElder

                                                                  its easier to discuss there.


                                                                  I don't twitter or facebook or any social media really. Sticking Out Tongue


                                                                  Lol ok. Email? if not I guess we could discuss on here.
                                                                  Jul. 11, 2017 at 4:51 p.m.
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                                                                  What's the ask for Puljujarvi? I'd really be interested in acquiring him
                                                                  Jul. 11, 2017 at 5:01 p.m.
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                                                                  Quoting: krakowitz
                                                                  What's the ask for Puljujarvi? I'd really be interested in acquiring him


                                                                  Marner most likely. Message me on twitter @NateElder . If you can't message me just give me a follow and I'll message you.
                                                                  Jul. 11, 2017 at 5:38 p.m.
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                                                                  Quoting: NateElder12


                                                                  Marner most likely. Message me on twitter @NateElder . If you can't message me just give me a follow and I'll message you.


                                                                  I don't have a twitter, and nevermind. You'd have to add for Marner anyways. But if you need a LW, I have Killorn that might interest you
                                                                  Jul. 11, 2017 at 5:44 p.m.
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                                                                  What's the price for Severson? I have James Neal available but you would have to add.
                                                                  Jul. 11, 2017 at 5:45 p.m.
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                                                                  Quoting: krakowitz
                                                                  Quoting: NateElder12


                                                                  Marner most likely. Message me on twitter @NateElder . If you can't message me just give me a follow and I'll message you.


                                                                  I don't have a twitter, and nevermind. You'd have to add for Marner anyways. But if you need a LW, I have Killorn that might interest you


                                                                  haha ok? You want a top-5 pick don't think you should move one I'm confused. Anyway, no I'll pass on Killorn. Thanks though.
                                                                  Jul. 11, 2017 at 5:46 p.m.
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                                                                  Quoting: DirtyDangles
                                                                  What's the price for Severson? I have James Neal available but you would have to add.


                                                                  I would have to add? Hard pass brother. Thanks anyway.
                                                                  Jul. 11, 2017 at 5:51 p.m.
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                                                                  I don't twitter or facebook or any social media really. Sticking Out Tongue


                                                                  Lol ok. Email? if not I guess we could discuss on here.


                                                                  I prefer to keep it here. Much simpler. I'm not overly concerned with anything I say being public.
                                                                  Jul. 11, 2017 at 6:00 p.m.
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                                                                  Lol ok. Email? if not I guess we could discuss on here.


                                                                  I prefer to keep it here. Much simpler. I'm not overly concerned with anything I say being public.


                                                                  I'm not either, but I would respond quicker on there than here. What would be the + to take that albatross AMac lol?
                                                                  Jul. 11, 2017 at 6:26 p.m.
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                                                                  I prefer to keep it here. Much simpler. I'm not overly concerned with anything I say being public.


                                                                  I'm not either, but I would respond quicker on there than here. What would be the + to take that albatross AMac lol?


                                                                  If I were the one taking MacDonald, I would do it for a 3rd in this case.
                                                                  Martin gave up the most shots and goals of all San Jose defenders at even strength last season.
                                                                  If you use the player comparison tool from own the puck, you'll see they are pretty much even right now.
                                                                  MacDonald is a little younger and a little cheaper ($600k less due to previously retained salary).
                                                                  MacDonald is under contract for 3 years as opposed to 2 years.
                                                                  Considering all of that, I'd be charging the pick for that extra year only.

                                                                  (I'm also not just saying that, you can look back through similar transactions I've made or offered to make).
                                                                  If you want to send additional cap my way, that's an added benefit to consider.

                                                                  It's up to you if you feel you benefit enough from that.
                                                                  I'm mostly looking at Martin for experience/mentorship, not necessarily for what he will do on the ice.
                                                                  Jul. 11, 2017 at 6:27 p.m.
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                                                                  Quoting: NateElder12
                                                                  Quoting: DirtyDangles
                                                                  What's the price for Severson? I have James Neal available but you would have to add.


                                                                  I would have to add? Hard pass brother. Thanks anyway.


                                                                  Was just gauging your opinion of him cool
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                                                                  Jul. 11, 2017 at 6:35 p.m.
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                                                                  CBJ AGM here, How much do you dislike Lucic on your roster? We could offer a cap dump for a cap dump type trade possibly.

                                                                  I think we have Matt Moulson at big money on a shorter deal and he was less than 20 points shorter than Lucic on a much inferior team and he played about 5 minutes less a night. That equates to Lucic playing an extra 400 minutes over the course of the season, which would be another 33ish games worth of ice time for Moulson. Had he played those extra games worth of time at the same rate .40 PPG, he'd have scored around an extra 13 points to his total. That would have meant that Moulson scored 45 points on a worse team, while Lucic scored 50, while logging some time with the league leader McDavid. I do admit the majority of the time Lucic was with Nuge and Eberle, who are similar to Moulsons line mates, but I do think Lucic could have scored his extra 5 points during playing with McDavid.

                                                                  I can't offer you that deal, as I'm only the assistant GM, but I can have my Head GM look it over if you want to get out of his long ass contract. You may have to retain something since the duration, just let us know what you think.
                                                                  Jul. 11, 2017 at 7:04 p.m.
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                                                                  Interested in Letestu, how much would he cost?
                                                                  Jul. 11, 2017 at 7:20 p.m.
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                                                                  Quoting: ricochetii
                                                                  Quoting: NateElder12


                                                                  I'm not either, but I would respond quicker on there than here. What would be the + to take that albatross AMac lol?


                                                                  If I were the one taking MacDonald, I would do it for a 3rd in this case.
                                                                  Martin gave up the most shots and goals of all San Jose defenders at even strength last season.
                                                                  If you use the player comparison tool from own the puck, you'll see they are pretty much even right now.
                                                                  MacDonald is a little younger and a little cheaper ($600k less due to previously retained salary).
                                                                  MacDonald is under contract for 3 years as opposed to 2 years.
                                                                  Considering all of that, I'd be charging the pick for that extra year only.

                                                                  (I'm also not just saying that, you can look back through similar transactions I've made or offered to make).
                                                                  If you want to send additional cap my way, that's an added benefit to consider.

                                                                  It's up to you if you feel you benefit enough from that.
                                                                  I'm mostly looking at Martin for experience/mentorship, not necessarily for what he will do on the ice.


                                                                  Dude I'm a flyers fan and AMac is the worst defenseman in the league lol. Look at his hero chart from one year back without provorov - awful. He probably isn't with Provorov this year and might be in the AHL so I think if that's all I'm looking at getting I'll probably have to pass. Sorry man.
                                                                  Jul. 11, 2017 at 7:21 p.m.
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                                                                  Quoting: TopCornerShot
                                                                  CBJ AGM here, How much do you dislike Lucic on your roster? We could offer a cap dump for a cap dump type trade possibly.

                                                                  I think we have Matt Moulson at big money on a shorter deal and he was less than 20 points shorter than Lucic on a much inferior team and he played about 5 minutes less a night. That equates to Lucic playing an extra 400 minutes over the course of the season, which would be another 33ish games worth of ice time for Moulson. Had he played those extra games worth of time at the same rate .40 PPG, he'd have scored around an extra 13 points to his total. That would have meant that Moulson scored 45 points on a worse team, while Lucic scored 50, while logging some time with the league leader McDavid. I do admit the majority of the time Lucic was with Nuge and Eberle, who are similar to Moulsons line mates, but I do think Lucic could have scored his extra 5 points during playing with McDavid.

                                                                  I can't offer you that deal, as I'm only the assistant GM, but I can have my Head GM look it over if you want to get out of his long ass contract. You may have to retain something since the duration, just let us know what you think.


                                                                  Mpulson doesn't really make me want to move Lucic. I'll think about it though
                                                                  Jul. 11, 2017 at 7:44 p.m.
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                                                                  If I were the one taking MacDonald, I would do it for a 3rd in this case.
                                                                  Martin gave up the most shots and goals of all San Jose defenders at even strength last season.
                                                                  If you use the player comparison tool from own the puck, you'll see they are pretty much even right now.
                                                                  MacDonald is a little younger and a little cheaper ($600k less due to previously retained salary).
                                                                  MacDonald is under contract for 3 years as opposed to 2 years.
                                                                  Considering all of that, I'd be charging the pick for that extra year only.

                                                                  (I'm also not just saying that, you can look back through similar transactions I've made or offered to make).
                                                                  If you want to send additional cap my way, that's an added benefit to consider.

                                                                  It's up to you if you feel you benefit enough from that.
                                                                  I'm mostly looking at Martin for experience/mentorship, not necessarily for what he will do on the ice.


                                                                  Dude I'm a flyers fan and AMac is the worst defenseman in the league lol. Look at his hero chart from one year back without provorov - awful. He probably isn't with Provorov this year and might be in the AHL so I think if that's all I'm looking at getting I'll probably have to pass. Sorry man.


                                                                  No problem, I'm just giving you my value. If yours is close enough to negotiate, we can, but if MacDonald is the worst defenseman in the league, I'm guessing that won't be possible. wink
                                                                  Jul. 11, 2017 at 9:55 p.m.
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                                                                  Dude I'm a flyers fan and AMac is the worst defenseman in the league lol. Look at his hero chart from one year back without provorov - awful. He probably isn't with Provorov this year and might be in the AHL so I think if that's all I'm looking at getting I'll probably have to pass. Sorry man.


                                                                  No problem, I'm just giving you my value. If yours is close enough to negotiate, we can, but if MacDonald is the worst defenseman in the league, I'm guessing that won't be possible. wink


                                                                  I was expecting assets to take him off your hands that's all. I didn't know you wanted assets for him so that was my misunderstanding. Sorry dude. Unless I'm not getting what you are saying haha.
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                                                                  Fowler, Hart and Pulkkinen for Severson, Patrick Russell, Bowers, Kuhnhackl, Mantha, 2018 3rd EDM, 2019 4th EDM and 2020 7th EDM
                                                                  Jul. 11, 2017 at 10:19 p.m.
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                                                                  Fowler, Hart and Pulkkinen for Severson, Patrick Russell, Bowers, Kuhnhackl, Mantha, 2018 3rd EDM, 2019 4th EDM and 2020 7th EDM


                                                                  No thanks man. I'd rather have Severson over Fowler. The rest seems like fodder for fodder
                                                                  Jul. 11, 2017 at 10:19 p.m.
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                                                                  Interested in Letestu, how much would he cost?


                                                                  not too much. Message me on twitter to discuss a deal. @NateElder
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                                                                  Fowler, Hart and Pulkkinen for Severson, Patrick Russell, Bowers, Kuhnhackl, Mantha, 2018 3rd EDM, 2019 4th EDM and 2020 7th EDM


                                                                  No thanks man. I'd rather have Severson over Fowler. The rest seems like fodder for fodder


                                                                  You wanted a LW. I'll give you Pulkkinen for Bowers and 2020 7th EDM
                                                                  Jul. 11, 2017 at 10:25 p.m.
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                                                                  No problem, I'm just giving you my value. If yours is close enough to negotiate, we can, but if MacDonald is the worst defenseman in the league, I'm guessing that won't be possible. wink


                                                                  I was expecting assets to take him off your hands that's all. I didn't know you wanted assets for him so that was my misunderstanding. Sorry dude. Unless I'm not getting what you are saying haha.


                                                                  I see MacDonald and Martin of similar enough value, that I'd be willing to give you something extra to make that change and take the extra year of MacDonald's contract.
                                                                  I'm not expecting anything much in return, but if I don't take salary back I'd have to give you more than I'd like for you to take MacDonald.
                                                                  If you thought he was an overpaid 3rd pairing guy, we might have been able to work something out.
                                                                  Since you said he's the worst defenseman in the league, it's not worth it for you to take him or for me to trade him to you.
                                                                  No harm no foul, only checking if there was something possible.

                                                                  I have multiple extra picks I'm willing to use to improve my roster, but it's not worth it for me to give up more than a 3rd if Martin is the return. (If Martin were 5 years younger and a clear upgrade, I'd offer more.)
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                                                                  No thanks man. I'd rather have Severson over Fowler. The rest seems like fodder for fodder


                                                                  You wanted a LW. I'll give you Pulkkinen for Bowers and 2020 7th EDM


                                                                  yeah a real LW.. not a guy who cant crack the NHL for my top prospect. Be serious dude come on..
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                                                                  No interest in Jake. Sorry man. Would you add?
                                                                   
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