Nate, any interest in Brock Nelson + Mikko Koivu + Noah Rod for Zucker + Hertl? Would this be something you'd have interest in or would you want a lot more?

Depends. Could you hold onto some salary?

yes but the price would go up if you want me to do that.

Koivu is gone now, sorry I moved him before you responded.

oh sorry man i didnt catch this until now. But no I don't have interest in moving Hertl or Zucker right now unless im getting an overpay in my mind basically. I like how they slot into my team right now.

I felt like Nelson was overpay for one of them considering his NHL accomplishments so far compared to them and then Koivu would have been underpay for the other so I added a prospect to help it get closer to even. Koivu is gone now for Victor Rask,, but I wouldn't offer Nelson + Victor Rask for Hertl and Zucker because I feel my side would be way more valuable due to consistency. Both your guys have only 1 year of high end production.

I could do Nelson for Hertl+ but I have no clue what I would ask for the +. It would probably need to be something you wouldn't want to lose, but it'd certainly be a lot smaller than Hertl in terms of value. IF you have no interest that's fine too, not trying to put any pressure on you, I just think those 2 players are tweeters in terms of value right now because they only have 1 year of legit production so their value is slightly lesser than a guy who's done it for a couple more years. I was seeing if I could maximize the value of assets and buy one of those guys while their value is lower than it would be if they had another productive season. If they both have great seasons their value would surely skyrocket. Zucker may end up on line 1 some and it's clearly evident they will both have some good line mates which will inflate their production and enhance their values.

If you already value these two players as "sure things" then there would be no deal to be made with me because I haven't seen them do it long enough. Everything is pointed in the direction of success for them, but they just haven't established themselves as consistent big time players yet. I really feel like they are in the zone of what I mentioned before as "tweeners" another full season of good production and I'll be on board.

lol ok? ??

I can't afford them with the way you're pricing them.

yeah i think i get that. I was just trying to decipher all that text. Basically I just got that you retract your offer because you think my players are ****? lol.

Hmmm. Would you be interested in a guy like Michael Mersch or Nic Dowd?

I'd prefer picks or prospects.

They are prospects haha. You still have that list of prospects I sent you on twitter?

Not really. Both have NHL time and they are 4th liners or ahl guys. Not typical prospect age. And idk if have to look for it. Has it changed?

Gallagher for Zucker+?

Pacioretty for Lucic and seiheim and vesalainen

No thanks. I'd do Gallagher+ for Zucker maybe

No thanks. Sanhiem is untouchable.

The asking price on both is very high. Any deal would likely have to include one of Puljujarvi, Trocheck, Klefbom or Sanheim

Nvm then. Thanks anyway - I just think all those guys you mentioned have higher value except Puljujarvi is probably equal.

Your offer was Demers and 2 1sts for JT, correct? If so, no thanks.

no McAvoy

alright, i'd rather not do the deal, thanks.

Your turn for UFA II.

You're jumping the gun a little on your RFA signings. Next year RFA signings will probably come after the trade deadline. Need to see how players perform this year to get an accurate value.
We don't have a procedure in place for them right now, that thread is for last year RFA signings.

Why do you have to wait? All those guys are eligible for extensions now. I shouldn't have to wait until next year.